Planet Green Is Smug

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  1. jason_els

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    What an obnoxious channel this is!

    Problem: We need to water our lawn and landscaping in the Pacific northwest.

    Planet Green's Solution: Install a water catchment system that empties into a cistern in the basement from which the sprinkler system can draw water.

    The Real Solution: Minimize lawn space and landscape with drought-resistant native plants that that don't need watering. Mind you these people live in Seattle, not the Sonoran desert.

    Problem: Our newly purchased house is too small.

    Planet Green's Solution: Rather than raise the roof on this historic Craftsman house, why not raise it six feet off its foundation and build underneath it?

    The Real Solution: Buy the house that fits your family and leave the historic house alone rather than make it look ridiculous by raising it far above its neighboring houses.

    Green living tip bumper: "Ladies, do you really need to wash your hair every day? Why not sweep it into a fashionable updoo?"

    They even have a show, Hollywood Green, about how celebrities are doing their part to live green by going on African safari in hybrid SUVs.

    I love these interviews with people who feel their need to confess deep guilt for not being green enough.

    And don't miss the sweepstakes where you can win a tour of Ed Begley, Junior's new green home as you enjoy the filming of his green living reality series.

    This is the single most obnoxious channel I have ever seen. It's ecoporn of the worst sort; demonstrating how people can be profligate with energy and resources in the most, "efficient," manner. I like green architecture. I like saving energy. What I don't like is being guilted into not washing my hair, or thinking that a heated Japanese toilet seat with built-in hot water bidet is going to save any more resources than using toilet paper (they don't even allow it in the bathroom) from recycled sources. The proximity sensing faucets in the same bathroom never put out enough water, don't always sense the presence of your hands, you can't adjust the temperature, and that little electric eye is a constant electricity drain that may well use more resources than the miniscule amount of water it will save. The real kicker was the ultra-water saving Navy-style shower that releases pre-measured amounts of water in spurts so that the shower isn't always running while you're in it.

    Can you spot the swimsuit made entirely of sustainable materials? asks one spot. So long as it isn't that ugly one in the middle apparently made of burlap, I don't care!

    Planet Green will quickly make conservation into another fad of conspicuous consumption. It asks the perverse question of who has the most expensive hairshirt?
     
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    Does PLANET GREEN use all the latest technology to help you enter the new stone age?

    I read a recent article in a paper which kind of made me numb. A hybrid SUV that gets 20 miles to the gallon.

    I have a car that gets 35 MPG. It's also 20 years old.

    Seems some priorities are messed up.
     
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    It's fashionable to be green. That's why people need all these high-tech, high-profile solutions to very simple problems. You can't make a TV channel out of downers about truly simplifying your life and consuming only what you need, as well as reassessing what you think you need.
     
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    Consumerism is all about the upgrade and add-ons. Applying it to ecological concerns is blasphemous.
     
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    I found it ridiculously disingenuous to see Ed Begley, Jr. crying when he saw Bill Nye's electric meter spin backward. CRYING over an electric meter?? What priorities do these people have? Meanwhile This Old House's Steve Jeanspacker takes confession like a priest as he talks to a man about hypocritical he felt talking about being green, "but (queue the dramatic punctuation music) not green enough!"

    From what I can see, very many of the subjects of this channel are spending tens, sometimes hundreds, of thousands of dollars on these systems. Yet they have Sub-Zero refrgerators, three car garages, and think taking an "ecovacation" in Fiji somehow uses less energy than simply going camping or vacationing within driving distance and turning up the thermostat on the hotel's airconditioning. What they're doing is making green living upscale. Where are the middle and lower middle class people? How can they be green without spending money they don't have on the latest green technology? Just being careful with accelerating a regular car can save you a few miles per gallon. Why not tell people this? It's sad. Green Planet is like HGTV for econuts and only reinforces the perception many people have the green living is just a fad for the rich who can afford all these very expensive energy generating and saving appliances.
     
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    OK, it just got worse. Chevy is advertising the Tahoe Hybrid using this ad (click on the video at the right) on Planet Green. Ahem.
     
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    Ah yes, the misconception that TV is about something other than entertainment.

    I thought Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC taught us that.
     
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    I just find the flaky California fashion crowd getting ahold of something that really is so important to be a huge public disservice. I intensely dislike being told to feel morally inferior because I have not dumped tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars into green products and appliances that don't necessarily make anything truly eco-friendly.

    I had high hopes for this channel, that maybe they'd really delve into issues and help people of all areas and economic circumstances to truly understand what they can do to and why they need to do it. Instead, everyplace they go is on the west coast (save for Kansas), and everyone profiled is upper middle class. It's HGTV with a supposedly green filter doing nothing more than showcasing dubious self-proclaimed green appliances and building technologies that I can frequently see aren't green at all.
     
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    That just seems to lump it even more with those supposed "news outlets". Making you feel morally inferior for X, Y, or Z reason? Bingo.

    I've never heard of it, and am not particularly upset that I either don't get it or, if I do, have never and will never watch it. Thanks for letting me know to stay away, though. :smile:


    Also... if Ed Begley Jr. is the best celebrity they can come with, well, just throw it on the pile with E! and VH1 for even entertainment value. Yeesh.
     
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    OK, I just had to do it. I've dug up two articles from my favorite blog, "Stuff White People Like." I believe they show this smug attitude of which Jason speaks.

    This article is about the Prius and the smug attitudes of many of the people around me who have bought them. (I do live in the Bay Area, however I live in the wrong city here, Oakland (not San Francisco or Berkeley), which is definitely not a prefered white city. LOL.)

    And this article is about organic foodstuffs. It shows how smug the people are who buy such things at farmers markets or Whole Foods or grocery co-ops believing that they are doing something for the environment.




    OK, I love that blog because I can laugh at myself. I'm a Cubs fan. I am for Barack Obama. I work for a non-profit. I love wine, tea, and coffee. And I'm a big proponent of diversity. This blog makes me laugh because, well, sometimes we white people take ourselves too seriously. (OK, don't want to totally hijack this thread.)
     
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    Oh and I blame HGTV for convincing my best friends that it is a great idea to buy in St. Petersburg, FL when the Tampa Bay housing market is still being flushed down a toilet. They, like me, are gay and white. We used to joke that HGTV stands for "Holy Gay TV." I don't laugh anymore. It's blatantly about rich white people who can afford to own their own houses and renovate constantly. Definitely not good for the environment.
     
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    That's a good blog. I enjoyed reading it so I bookmarked it.

    HGTV is evil. All of those channels are. "FLIP THAT HOUSE!!" "UPGRADE UPGRADE UPGRADE!!" It is one long commercial for the housing industry. Where is the, "Foreclosure!" show? The, "Homeless in Houston Show?," or, "Beautify Your Trailer Park?" Why no mention of the mortgage crisis? It's all about consumption and buying, buying, buying and whatever you do, don't be happy with what you buy, always and continually renovate (the better to spend money on the sponsors' products).
     
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    Total tangent, but the whole hybrids gaining popularity not for being green but for being cheaper in the long run thing really restores a bit of faith in the whole Capitalism thing, doesn't it?
     
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    I have a 2002 Saturn SL1. It' gets about 38 MPG.

    Not a Hybrid at all. Uses good old fashioned gasoline. Regular gasoline.

    I drive about 600 miles a week for work.

    Life is good.
     
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    Gas Mileage of 2002 Saturn SL

    How are you getting 6MPG over the highway rating in general? You must be doing some pretty fancy tricks to squeeze that much extra mileage out of a car that has a combined rating of 26MPG.
     
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    I take it in every 3,000 miles for an oil change and I follow the maintenance schedule that they put me on. I don't add anything else into the gas.

    They have put me on a synthetic oil.

    But for my line of work I have to keep track of milage and I track mine daily.
     
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    I gotta agree, I do find it ridiculous that car commercials boast of fuel efficiency with such numbers as 31/21. Seeing as how I drive a 14 year old sedan that gets slightly better mileage than that (33/25 roughly), it's barely a step back in the right direction.

    And 20 MPG isn't much better than a standard gas powered SUV anyway.
     
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    Not familiar with the channel, but am familiar with the uber-eco-rich thought stream that I see on all of these programs. It really is sickening it's like oh I'm so rich I have to do something... instead of buying a smaller house for my family I have to do xyz... Cuz you know every family of four should live have a 5,000 sq ft home. Ohhh here's the latest, it's a "green wine" using 100% wind energy in processing... great... but I don't drink wine and even if I did it's too expensive compared to the other similar brands. Reduce, ReUse, Recycle... Except when it comes to buying NEW "ecofriendly" stuff. When was the last time you saw one of those shows where they went to a thrift shop, rummage sale, or garage sale?

    The amount of REAL practical solutions for ordinary people they show on those programs is miniscule if any. Solar hotwater heating is something most homeowners could do. Pays for itself in as little as 3 years, plus til the end of this year there is a tax credit for it, cutting costs even more. Everybody knows about compact flourescent light bulbs. Why not do a whole house over and show the actual electricity savings? Check the pressure in your tires, can save quite a bit of money there. Simple things they don't show, complex 10,000 monstrosities is all they seem to focus on.
     
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    Yeah, I do what I can in my beastly sports car myself. I know the optimum speed, keep it clean, keep the tires pumped, avoid using the AC/keeping the windows wide open and of course use synthetic oil. I'm getting 25MPG highway out of a 325HP muscle car, so I'm pretty proud. Don't think there's much more I can do to bring it up at this point.

    That said, let's not downplay what the hardcore hybrids can do. Driving like that in a Honda Insight will get you 100MPG right now. Can't really scoff at that!

    I'm very happy that I don't have to drive to work. Public transit for the win. :smile:
     
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