Hi, ladies -- am new to posting and thought it was about time that I invaded your area :evilgrin: . As ever, I'm shamelessly on the prowl for snippets of information that will allow me to understand the workings of women's minds a little better. I'm hoping that you can shed some light on an aspect of female sexual behaviour that I've encountered a few times and which greatly intrigues me. I haven't been with very many women, but a surprising number of the ones that I have known sexually have, during phases of advanced intimacy and happiness in relationships, verbally expressed a desire for me to bring them very close to the threshold of pain during sex. A few, who (like me) were categorically not into bondage/S&M activities, have actually gone as far as to ask me explicitly to "hurt" them while having sex with them. They said things like this either during sex, foreplay or in the course of intensely sexual conversations. Naturally, context, intuition and mutual understanding in these situations have always made such requests seem much less blunt (and much more erotic) than they appear in my relation of them in cold script here. Most of the time I like the woman to be in charge during sex and, of course, find the idea of causing someone physical pain (in any situation) distressing and unpalatable. "Pain" and "hurt" are probably misnomers with regard to these kinds of experiences. I think that they are simply the best words we have to describe very intense sensations of spiritual and physical 'connectedness'. Anyway, I'm rambling. What I want to know is whether any of you have found yourselves expressing similar desires to partners you've had. Also, what's your general thinking on what I've described?