Pnp (i think) encounter - freaked out

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Was at a cruisy gay resort this weekend. Sunday night was pretty dead, decided to go see what I could find before I headed back home. I encountered this really awesome looking guy, someone light years out of my league. Some other guy had just finished up with him I assumed, I made a move and he seemed to have no problem with it, I was jacking him off and he moved in to suck my dick, but it was really bad. He tried to stand up to get in a different position when I realized this guy was on something. I asked him a couple of time if he was OK, and he a said yeah pretty clearly so he must have had some comprehension. I ended up breaking off and leaving him there.

I have been freaking out about this the whole trip home. Was he stoned and should I have gotten him help? Did someone slip him some kind of date rape drug? Did I just participate in some kind of harassment, or was this guy on drugs of his own choosing? I am bit naive about PNP, was that what he was on?
 

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Well, and gay men are also one of the only social groups to date rape themselves. He could also have been on GHB, a drug that has also been used to date rape people. Usually the drug is taken simultaneously with meth, usually after a slam (Injection) and causes almist drunklike symptoms. Based on your post it sounds to me like this may have been case but you never kbow. He could also just have a musculature or nerve issue.
 
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By this I just meant in the gay PNP scene it is quite common to mix meth and GHB. GHB is very dosage specific, too much by even a small amount can cause people to pass out into a coma like sleep for typically 4-5 hours. I knew people that would frequently "g out" and gave full permission to anyone there to use their body for whatever. Hence my comment about gay meb date raping themselves.
 

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By this I just meant in the gay PNP scene it is quite common to mix meth and GHB. GHB is very dosage specific, too much by even a small amount can cause people to pass out into a coma like sleep for typically 4-5 hours. I knew people that would frequently "g out" and gave full permission to anyone there to use their body for whatever. Hence my comment about gay meb date raping themselves.

I question referring to that as rape. These men appear to know full well what they're doing, what the consequences of it are, and you say they even given permission to be used.
 

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By this I just meant in the gay PNP scene it is quite common to mix meth and GHB. GHB is very dosage specific, too much by even a small amount can cause people to pass out into a coma like sleep for typically 4-5 hours. I knew people that would frequently "g out" and gave full permission to anyone there to use their body for whatever. Hence my comment about gay meb date raping themselves.
That's...nevermind. I'll just put in on my list of things I will never understand.
 

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I question referring to that as rape. These men appear to know full well what they're doing, what the consequences of it are, and you say they even given permission to be used.
It was meant as sarcasm and a poor taste joke. And while I won't get into a lengthy discussion of consent laws, most states have generally found that consent given under the influence is NOT consent and engaging in sexual activity can be considered sexual assault or rape.
 

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That very well could be it. It wasn't muscle spasms or anything, this guy was on something. There was another guy walking around kind of in the same state, to be honest though I didn't go through a deep assessment of the guy - realized something was not right and broke it off right there. Actually one thing I remember - he kept sticking his tongue out like he wanted to lick something.

I probably should have gone and reported it, but what is done is done I guess.


Do guys really need drugs to get that horny?
 

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Meth typically decreases inhibition and this disinhibition usually leads to less safe sex practices. I actually did some research on this in undergrad and studies have found that the substances most commonly used when engaging in less safe sex practices are 1 meth and 2. poppers. The differences and occurence of other drugs wasn't statistically significant.

But, I think you did the right thing by leaving. He wasn't able to give consent, and you listened to you gut which is the right thing to do!
 
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To answer your concerned questions, the answer is NO... If this man was on something at the time you encountered him. It is my opinion that you are not party to his state of being. Now if he had been totally out of it, not being able to answer your questions, unable to stand. Then maybe you should had sought out help for this man.

As for the PNP. I have encounter guys who in general say PNP, as an indicator that they party with some type of narcotic.

My hubby and I went on a Meet and Greet. This guy had told us earlier that he did not engage in PNP. Once we arrived at his place. It was obvious that this guys was coming down from his PNP session prior to our meeting. He was nervous, fidgety, anxious. He kept rubbing his mouth and nose. All the signs were there. We were polite, stayed about 15 minutes, then told him we were not a match. Once we arrived back home, I called and told him our reason. explained that he had lied to us about his PNP use. I knew better than to say something about it while we were at his place. Not knowing how he would have taken that with us there... I guess this day and age of sex some people need that added boost while having sex. Something I do not understand at all..... :confused:
 

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Not to offense anyone but PnP sounds dangerous :/

It can be, very much so. I knew people that would get high and randomly invite other very high PNP'ers over who would either stay for days or rob them blind. Not to mention the conpulsion for sex drives you to riskier and riskier behavior, usually resulting in catching god knows what. Or if they had medical conditions they would forget to take their meds for weeks causing a shit ton of issues. It is a scary scene that I am glad I no longer know anyone in.
 
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It can be, very much so. I knew people that would get high and randomly invite other very high PNP'ers over who would either stay for days or rob them blind. Not to mention the conpulsion for sex drives you to riskier and riskier behavior, usually resulting in catching god knows what. Or if they had medical conditions they would forget to take their meds for weeks causing a shit ton of issues. It is a scary scene that I am glad I no longer know anyone in.

Oh wow! Why do some gay men tend to have such self destructive behaviour?

I’m not trying to be a judgemental cunt or anything. It’s not my business to say what other people can or can’t do with their own life. Whatever makes them happy i suppose, but seeing some gay men or anyone for that matter - willing to put their own life at risk and in danger just to get laid/a moment of pleasure is disheartening.
 

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Oh wow! Why do some gay men tend to have such self destructive behaviour?

I’m not trying to be a judgemental cunt or anything. It’s not my business to say what other people can or can’t do with their own life. Whatever makes them happy i suppose, but seeing some gay men or anyone for that matter - willing to put their own life at risk and in danger just to get laid/a moment of pleasure is disheartening.

Tend to? Do you suppose that getting very high on meth is something that most Gay men do on the reg.?
 

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Tend to? Do you suppose that getting very high on meth is something that most Gay men do on the reg.?

When did i say most gay men? I said ‘some’ and like i have said, the self destructive behaviour isn’t just applied to some gay men, people are putting their health and life at risk for a moment of pleasure. And i also said, it’s none of my business nor am I being judgemental. I said it’s disheartning to hear and see this happening to people.
 
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