Politics Of Phallicism In Religion, Architecture & Society

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Seems odd, at a site like this, that no one appears to have brought-up this subject. Perhaps I missed something. I'll try to keep my commentary to a minimum.

I'll start with architecture: Phallic architecture - Wikipedia
 

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Seems odd, at a site like this, that no one appears to have brought-up this subject. Perhaps I missed something. I'll try to keep my commentary to a minimum.

I'll start with architecture: Phallic architecture - Wikipedia

What of it?

Also do note that when it comes to tall structures in architecture, structures with a wide base that become gradually more narrow as they approach the top are much more stable than structures which have a narrow base and gradually grow more wide.

It's why pyramids don't look like this.

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In similar fashion, structures which maintain their width have more square footage than buildings which narrow at a faster rate as you move up the structure. (i.e. you can fit more people / offices in a cylindrical structure than a conical one).

Long story short, the majority of tall buildings will have at least some vague resemblance to a phallus. Unless otherwise intentioned, this is side effect of laws of physics and a desire to maximize real estate value.
 
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I see. Phallicism in religion and culture is just a myth?

Hardly seems possible you even glanced at the WikiPedia article.

Further, the obelisk which is the standard tower said to "phallic", and has no residential nor commercial housing purpose, is as narrow at the base as possible to emphasize its phallic symbolism. See the obelisk at the Vatican and, of course, the Washington monument. A pyramid even when right side up has no phallic symbolism that I can detect.

Other archetecture and archetectural ornaments shown in the article are either actual penis depictions or more obviously symbolic than the obelisk.

I happened to live for some years near the Ypsilanti water tower. The resemblance to the phallus was unmistakable. Nearly everyone noticed on 1st sight.

As I stated in another thread:

Remnants of our phallic religious past include those Holy Water shakers (Aspergillum) used by Catholic Priests during Mass, church steeples, obelisks such as the Washington Monument, the one in the Vatican, etc......there are 100s around the world. Yes, the phallocracy sees "penis symbols" in a lot of things.

Yeah, it is only right to memorialize the penis of the "father of our country." Wouldn't be tasteful to do it explicitly, however.
 
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Here is an interesting quote from the article:

Symbolism[edit]


Left: Vendome Column, Paris. Right: One of the many penis statues of Haesindang Park (Penis Park), South Korea.
In art and architecture, acutely vertical buildings are often seen as a symbol of masculinity and horizontal buildings are seen as more feminine.[26][27] The terms "phallic verticality", "phallic erectility" and "phallic brutality" have been referred to by architectural theorists, including the likes of French sociologist Henri Lefebvre, who argued that buildings of phallic architectural type metaphorically symbolize "force, male fertility, masculine violence".[26][28] Phallic erectility "bestows a special status on the perpendicular, proclaiming phallocracy as the orientation of space" while phallic brutality "does not remain abstract, for it is the brutality of political power."[28]

Hmmmm! Maybe the phallocracy is a social construction, not instinctual.
 

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I see. Phallicism in religion and culture is just a myth?

I asked you what of it? You posted a title and a link, but no opinion on it. No one's replying because there's no debate to be had here at the moment.

Here is an interesting quote from the article:

Symbolism[edit]


Left: Vendome Column, Paris. Right: One of the many penis statues of Haesindang Park (Penis Park), South Korea.
In art and architecture, acutely vertical buildings are often seen as a symbol of masculinity and horizontal buildings are seen as more feminine.[26][27] The terms "phallic verticality", "phallic erectility" and "phallic brutality" have been referred to by architectural theorists, including the likes of French sociologist Henri Lefebvre, who argued that buildings of phallic architectural type metaphorically symbolize "force, male fertility, masculine violence".[26][28] Phallic erectility "bestows a special status on the perpendicular, proclaiming phallocracy as the orientation of space" while phallic brutality "does not remain abstract, for it is the brutality of political power."[28]

Hmmmm! Maybe the phallocracy is a social construction, not instinctual.

You've said that this is interesting but haven't communicated anything that as a member of your audience I find interesting.

Penis statues. Vertical buildings. What of it?
 
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Penis statues. Vertical buildings. What of it?

The penis obsessions demonstrated by the site have a historical fountainhead in phallic religion, art, architecture and culture.

Or, perhaps, phallic instincts are demonstrated in cultural artifacts.
 

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I see. Phallicism in religion and culture is just a myth?

Hardly seems possible you even glanced at the WikiPedia article.

Further, the obelisk which is the standard tower said to "phallic", and has no residential nor commercial housing purpose, is as narrow at the base as possible to emphasize its phallic symbolism. See the obelisk at the Vatican and, of course, the Washington monument. A pyramid even when right side up has no phallic symbolism that I can detect.

Other archetecture and archetectural ornaments shown in the article are either actual penis depictions or more obviously symbolic than the obelisk.

I happened to live for some years near the Ypsilanti water tower. The resemblance to the phallus was unmistakable. Nearly everyone noticed on 1st sight.

As I stated in another thread:

Remnants of our phallic religious past include those Holy Water shakers (Aspergillum) used by Catholic Priests during Mass, church steeples, obelisks such as the Washington Monument, the one in the Vatican, etc......there are 100s around the world. Yes, the phallocracy sees "penis symbols" in a lot of things.

Yeah, it is only right to memorialize the penis of the "father of our country." Wouldn't be tasteful to do it explicitly, however.

Given that Washington's penis was routinely reviled by his troops for being sterile and there were whispers he was gay leaning at times, I don't think the shape of the monument was inspired by his penis as a tribute.
 

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If you're obsessed with penises you'll see them everywhere.

This thread has nothing to do with politics and does not belong in this section of the forum.

Also, being responsible for posts #1, 3, 4, and 6 is not keeping your commentary to a minimum.
 
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If you're obsessed with penises you'll see them everywhere.

This thread has nothing to do with politics and does not belong in this section of the forum.

Also, being responsible for posts #1, 3, 4, and 6 is not keeping your commentary to a minimum.

Nothing to do with politics? Religion and art (and cultural memes in general) have nothing to do with politics? Religion had nothing to do with control of the population, ie. politics? Phallicism in religion has nothing to do with the patriarchy?

The article I posted contains political thoughts explicitly: "The terms "phallic verticality", "phallic erectility" and "phallic brutality" have been referred to by architectural theorists, including the likes of French sociologist Henri Lefebvre, who argued that buildings of phallic architectural type metaphorically symbolize "force, male fertility, masculine violence".[26][28] Phallic erectility "bestows a special status on the perpendicular, proclaiming phallocracy as the orientation of space" while phallic brutality "does not remain abstract, for it is the brutality of political power."

Yeah, other posters insisted I comment because they didn't see the import. Sorry, I didn't think comments would be necessary.

Here is a book on phallicism on religion that I perused long ago, but admittedly, never finished reading:

Sex worship; an exposition of the Phallic origin of religion.
 
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Given that Washington's penis was routinely reviled by his troops for being sterile and there were whispers he was gay leaning at times, I don't think the shape of the monument was inspired by his penis as a tribute.

Not only is there no evidence of that as far as I know, the "troops" other than a few leaders "under him" were active in the politics of the founding, Wash DC archetecture, etc.

The monument "came" much later anyway, I do believe. We'd have to look into the philosophy and politics of those who promoted the erection of the monument.

Anyway, gays seem a bit on the phallic side to me.
 

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Not only is there no evidence of that as far as I know, the "troops" other than a few leaders "under him" were active in the politics of the founding, Wash DC archetecture, etc.

The monument "came" much later anyway, I do believe. We'd have to look into the philosophy and politics of those who promoted the erection of the monument.

Anyway, gays seem a bit on the phallic side to me.

Ah! The purpose of the thread emerges - trolling.
 

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Delicious Egg Salad for Sandwiches

Ingredients
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  • 1/2 cup mayonnaise
  • 1 teaspoon prepared yellow mustard
  • 1/4 cup chopped green onion
  • salt and pepper to taste
  • 1/4 teaspoon paprika
Directions
  1. Place egg in a saucepan and cover with cold water. Bring water to a boil and immediately remove from heat. Cover and let eggs stand in hot water for 10 to 12 minutes. Remove from hot water, cool, peel and chop.
  2. Place the chopped eggs in a bowl, and stir in the mayonnaise, mustard and green onion. Season with salt, pepper and paprika. Stir and serve on your favorite bread or crackers.
 

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Delicious Egg Salad for Sandwiches

Ingredients
  • 8 eggs
  • 1/2 cup mayonnaise
  • 1 teaspoon prepared yellow mustard
  • 1/4 cup chopped green onion
  • salt and pepper to taste
  • 1/4 teaspoon paprika
Directions
  1. Place egg in a saucepan and cover with cold water. Bring water to a boil and immediately remove from heat. Cover and let eggs stand in hot water for 10 to 12 minutes. Remove from hot water, cool, peel and chop.
  2. Place the chopped eggs in a bowl, and stir in the mayonnaise, mustard and green onion. Season with salt, pepper and paprika. Stir and serve on your favorite bread or crackers.

 

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Breast Architecture dominates the world............Perhaps it's where Madonna got her idea for the Bra thing......
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There are many ancient domed structures in the world...Just wondering how you can build a highrise with female genitalia though?
 

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Delicious Egg Salad for Sandwiches

Ingredients
  • 8 eggs
  • 1/2 cup mayonnaise
  • 1 teaspoon prepared yellow mustard
  • 1/4 cup chopped green onion
  • salt and pepper to taste
  • 1/4 teaspoon paprika
Directions
  1. Place egg in a saucepan and cover with cold water. Bring water to a boil and immediately remove from heat. Cover and let eggs stand in hot water for 10 to 12 minutes. Remove from hot water, cool, peel and chop.
  2. Place the chopped eggs in a bowl, and stir in the mayonnaise, mustard and green onion. Season with salt, pepper and paprika. Stir and serve on your favorite bread or crackers.

I never thought of putting egg salad on a cracker before - who knew? With a Ritz or a Club it really steps it up.
 

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I never thought of putting egg salad on a cracker before - who knew? With a Ritz or a Club it really steps it up.
One of the first things I was taught was to mash boiled egg, spread it on toast with a lettuce leaf, loads of butter. It's still one of my favourite snacks to this day. I reckon I was 8 at the time.

Only now sometimes I roll boiled eggs into a lettuce leaf with tomato and capsicum, maybe a bit of onion.......still yummy.

Also...you noticed in the Madonna pic the Bra ribbing close to the St Paul's Cathedral....she was a Catholic....:) and loved revving it up :)
 
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