Poll: Republicans Think Obama Is A Socialist, Palin More Qualified To Be President

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  1. Industrialsize

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    Now I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the following statistics, they are startling:
    • 39% of Republicans want President Obama to be impeached.
    • 63% think Obama is a socialist.
    • Only 42% believe Obama was born in the United States.
    • 53% think Sarah Palin is more qualified than Obama to be president.
    • 23% want to secede from the United States.

    • 73% think gay people should not be allowed to teach in public schools.
    • 31% want contraception to be outlawed.


    Poll: Republicans Think Obama Is A Socialist, And Palin More Qualified To Be President | TPMDC
     
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    Hmm.

    Daily Kos.

    'Self-identified Republicans'

    Right.:rolleyes:
     
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    Interesting numbers.

    I find it most curious that Palin has (as a good christian) willing been blessed by a witch doctor.

    Currently the neo con christian right is giving Obama a hard time for not having attended Sunday church services since becoming President.

    Reagan, except for a few "special" occasion never attended any church while President, but the same neo con christian right let him slide on that one.

    I'm well aware of the 73% that think gays should not teach in public schools. I used to do that, teach in public schools, but the money sucked. I have a few friends in the USA who are great teachers and one, possibly two years away from retiring with full benefits. They have always been and are now especially afraid they will lose their jobs if some of the Vultures who nest in the Eagle Forum or American Family Foundation decide to get mean and boycott their current employment. So, I'm surprised that 73% isn't higher.

    The 42% who believe that Obama was born in the USA is a sad comment on how gullible the majority of the USA really is. Again, lack of good public education.

    As for the 23% who want to secede from the USA, I would rather see them re-seeding the USA with a huge reforestation project. :smile:
     
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    Yup, self-indentified Republicans. FYI, DailyKos hires the NON-Partisn Reasearch2000 to conduct polls on various issues:
    About Us
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    RESEARCH 2000 is a nonpartisan full service research firm that conducts surveys and focus groups for advocacy groups, trade associations, businesses and over 300 news media organizations.


    About Us – Research 2000
     
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    Said it before say it again America is so over. Thank gawd I am in my twilight years. It's going to be ugly watching the decline. Will we go peacefully into obsolescence like Britain?
     
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    sounds like something someone made up..........not based on fact........go to the tpmdc website and judge for yourself.
     
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    I wish it was made up but Talking Points memo is a reliable, trusted news organization(editorialy slanted to the Left) and research200 is a trusted non-partisan pollster. These numbers were leaked by Markos Moulitas(founder of the dailykos) in his twitter feed ( Markos Moulitsas (markos) on Twitter ), but the entire poll with full cross tabs will be published tomorrow.
     
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    I wonder if Canada and Mexico changed places would you see a mass exodus heading south to sun and sanity? No one wants to move to the tundra to escape the plutocracy/theocracy of US politics.

    Good and Boring Canada
     
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    -I'm not sure what he would be charged with to justify impeaching him. Clinton certainly earned it.
    -Socialist? Duh, yeah. Why is he out of touch with America? He's not an American. He wants America to be like Europe or the Middle East. "America's not a Christian nation" Dumbass, yes we are! 80% or so agree...
    -Palin's actions as governor are noteable and most are positive; not sure I'd want her as POTUS - Ms. Rice, no problemo.
    -Seceding, ummm, probably not a good idea in the long run.
    -I'm not real concerned about sexual orientation, it's more the liberal/socialist mindset I find most disturbing, having to re-educate my children when they come home from school is frustrating.
    -I think cotraception is a good thing.

    I consider myself Republican/Conservative; maybe I'm just anti-liberal/Socialism?
     
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    Oh, where do we begin.
    First off, he's an American citizen. That is not up for debate if you want anyone to think you have a brain.

    Secondly... Socialism? Ahem... ever heard of Medicare and Medicaid? Know anyone on it? Do they approve of the program? That's a form of Socialism. Is Obama a Socialist just because he's pushing for Health Care Reform? Learn what the word means first before you label him as such. BTW, the answer is no.

    Christian Nation? Who cares if 80% are. There's still a thing called Freedom of Religion in this country, so regardless of your religious beliefs they're not a reason to assume that everything needs to cater to Christian needs. Spirituality saves. Religion destroys. Don't think too hard on that one.

    Palin? Oh, PLEASE make her run for President. She'll lose horribly. Not only would it be great for laughs, but Tina Fey could win another Emmy. Palin is a polarizing joke who think she represents "real Americans". I don't know what America she came from, but I was born and raised here too... and I'm 100% real.

    And if you think you need to re-educate anyone about homosexuals, especially your children, then you truly underestimate their ability to learn things on their own.

    But at least you believe in contraception... perhaps there's hope?
     
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    Ha ha ha! There is no one in the world that can be worse the Bush (Please don't let it be one) and most republicans (Cause some of them were smart enough to see pass their political believe) blindly believe he was an excellent president. Hmmm, this is gonna become an ugly thread!
     
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    No... They don't. Thank God for our geography.

    It's really, really ass-biting cold for ten months per year and then we have black flys. And yes, it's totally boring.
     
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    I know right. However, I've seen worse. Aaaannnywho....:popcorn:
     
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    And most Democrats refuse to listen to criticism of Obama, believing it to be based purely in bitterness of defeat and partisan vitriol. And when they criticized Bush it was completely disinterested commentary :rolleyes:

    What is your point here? I don't think it's gonna devolve any more really. Republicans give conservatives a bad name. Much as hippies and pot smoking bums give progressives a bad name.
     
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    Ya know, if I hadn't heard similar numbers from a poll taken last Fall, I'd think this were a hoax. I'll hold off till it comes out, but if this is an accurate reflection, and I have no reason to doubt it, this is very disturbing.
    If more than a tiny fringe minority believe most of these things, it does not bode well for our Republic.

    I actually thought this was the most bizarre item, that only 1 in 5 will say Obama won the election:

    • 21% think ACORN stole the 2008 election -- that is, that Obama didn't actually win it, and isn't legitimately the president, with 55% saying they are "not sure." This number is actually significantly lower than it was in a similar question from Public Policy Polling (D) back in November, which said that 52% of Republicans thought ACORN stole it. So does this mean Obama is gaining ground among Republicans? As it is, only just over 20% of Republicans will say that Obama actually won the election.

    Acorn? Really?? How crazy is that? I'm curious about the sampling, e.g. were these just general self-identified Republicans vs. likely voters? I wonder what percentage of 'Independents' hold similar views. Surely among Democrats it would be a tiny minority, right? Regardless of all that, this is disturbing and does not bode well.

    I was curious to know what percentage of Americans self-identify as Republican. I remember hearing of a 'Republican Shrinkage Problem', no kidding, that's what they're calling it. I thought they were down around
    20 percent, but actually no. Here's the latest from Rasmussen: Partisan Trends - Rasmussen Reports. Only slightly less than a third of adults. I am curious to know what percentage of Americans hold similar views.
    If you divide those numbers by a third, it's still disturbing. Assuming there may be other non-Republicans holding these views, Independents, unaffiliated Teabaggers for example, the numbers would be higher.
    More disturbing.

    This does not bode well. This does not bode well at all.

     
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    Hey!!! I resemble that remark. :cool:

    when was the last time a hippie or a bum bombed anyone?
     
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    Uh, they want what exactly to secede from the United States?

    Only an defined entity can secede from the larger entity... are all these people polled a state? If they're a few thousand individuals, there's no mechanism for secession because they're not a cohesive piece, unless they all live in Orange County CA or Sandpoint, ID. I'm sure secession sounds good to them, but they're too stupid to understand that it doesn't apply unless they can all settle in one state, move out all the people who don't agree with them, and then petition for secession (and the other states have to agree). They are, however, more than welcome to pick their sorry asses up and move wherever they think more suits their beliefs. Good luck with that. America -- love it or leave it. What goes around comes around.
     
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    Socialism? In America? Look no farther than the military. They live in subsidized housing on bases like a big, crowded (but publicly-funded) kibbutz; they shop in the PX, which is a monopoly chain of socialist, subsidized markets; they draw their paycheck from the government; they get socialized health care; they have daycare and publicly-funded education for their kids; and they wear socialist uniforms. They deride "socialism", but they'll fight tooth and nail for every one of their socialized benefits. I grew up between military bases and half my friends growing up were military brats. They exist in a socialist utopia, then fling arrows at others.

    Obama a socialist? Hardly. It's an easy word to try to use as an epithet, but ridiculously untrue. He was a professor at a private university for 12 years. (My university - specifically, my law school.) His wife was a corporate VP in the private sector. The US would be a million times better off with a touch of socialism to temper the unfair hard edge of unfettered free markets, but Obama's hardly the one to bring it. Conservatives gotta look for another bogey man.
     
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    The entire poll was released today. Here are more of the highlights. Full and exhaustive cross tabs can be found here:
    Daily Kos :: State of the Nation
    Remember the poll is of 2000 self identified Republicans nationwide:
    Do you believe Barack Obama wants the terrorists to win?
    Yes 24
    No 43
    Not Sure 33
    Do you believe Barack Obama is a racist who hates White people?

    Yes 31
    No 36
    Not Sure 33
    Should openly gay men and women be allowed to serve in the military?
    Yes 26
    No 55
    Not Sure 19
    Should same sex couples be allowed to marry?
    Yes 7
    No 77
    Not Sure 16
    Should gay couples receive any state or federal benefits?
    Yes 11
    No 68
    Not Sure 21
    Should openly gay men and women be allowed to teach in public schools?
    Yes 8
    No 73
    Not Sure 19
    Do you believe that the only way for an individual to go to heaven is though Jesus Christ, or can one make it to heaven through another faith?
    Christ 67
    Other 15
    Not Sure 18
    Two-thirds of Republicans assume anyone that is not a Christian is going to hell. It certainly makes it easier for them to dehumanize their enemies, either real or perceived.
     
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