Poll shows more Americans think Obama is a Muslim

[B_VinylBoy]

Er,opinion polls are opinion polls-JUST THAT.

But what good is an opinion when it's not based on anything factual?
Everyone should know by now that Obama isn't a Muslim. Not after the BS we all had to go through before and during the 2008 election with Jeremiah Wright, and through the absolute nonsense spread by the birthers about being a Kenyan. At one point he was everything except American to these idiots.

No one is saying they're anything else.They don't chose leaders,they don't form governments nor do they decide policy etc etc etc.So why get a 'bee in your knickers'about about them??...you've already agreed they're meaningless!!

Why get upset? To elaborate on what I said earlier, more and more people don't want to listen to or hear the facts. They develop some kind of "opinion" based on their own prejudices or desires and wait until someone in a powerful position is kooky enough to agree with them. If someone believed that 1+1=3 and Sarah Palin came out and endorsed it, you could do an "opinion poll" and get a percentage of Americans to agree with it. It's the willing embracement of ignorance and stupidity, and that in itself is stupid.

Why do we need to continue to nurture a nation of crybabies who can't take it when they're blatantly wrong? If they don't have the facts right, then just tell them point blank... you're wrong. And if they continue to complain and act as if they're not in agreement with you because of some divisive title knowing that they're wrong, call the shit what it is.

It makes sense that the percentage of people who say this are conservative. I don't think they believe it but it's just a way for them to express their disapproval.

Yeah, but 1 out of 10 Democrats actually believed this nonsense as well according to the same "opinion poll".

This wasn't a question that required people to make a statement about the administration or the current atmosphere in today's politics. He doesn't become more American when he does something you like or more Muslim when he doesn't. It was as simple as asking what noise does a cow make or what color the sky is. There are some things in this world where opinions don't count. If Obama's religious affiliation was a Jeopardy question, their "opinion" wouldn't have scored them anything. At the same time, you can bet some stupid people would have written in and complained that the show had a "liberal bias" because the answer didn't add up to their flawed convictions.

 

[vince]

George Carlin once said "Think of how stupid the average person is and then realize that half of them are stupider than that."

 

[mitchymo]

George Carlin once said "Think of how stupid the average person is and then realize that half of them are stupider than that."

Funny quote, as meant to be i guess. Factually tho it means that half are less stupid.

 

[B_Mister Buildington]

You guys seem pretty damn sure that Obama isn't a cryptomuslim, but there is evidence to the contrary.

 

[D_Sir Fitzwilly Wankheimer III]

Ive been quite sad about this poll all day. Sad because so many of my fellow citizens are ignorant to blantant truth. And sad that so many of my fellow citizens equate Islam with evil. A better day will come. I am very hopeful.

blatant truth? give an example?

 

[B_VinylBoy]

blatant truth? give an example?

Here's one...
Obama is a Christian.

 

[gfforrent]

blatant truth? give an example?

Heres a couple.......

Remember Reverend Wright, the asshole CHRISTIAN minister who's church the Obama family attended for 20 years? The irony of that whole debacle was that, while it showed that the Obamas have a whack job for a preacher, it also shone a bright light on the fact that Barack Obama is a Christian. But why dwell on irony when you can have it both ways, right?

He has repeatedly said he is a Christian. He was sworn into the US Senate on a big ol bible. He was sworn in as President on an even bigger bible. If he were Muslim, this would be grounds for excommunication. Even death in some archaic parts of the world. parts of the world Obama was supposedly born in (lol)....which leads me to..................

He has a birth certificate that looks just like everybody elses. He has a birth announcement listed in a local Maui newspaper in August 1961. He was born in Hawaii, which since the 1950's has been a state in these United States.

Its relatively simple to not believe anything someone has to say when you don't like them. But when you choose to not believe them when you know what they say is the truth.........then your just a (fill in any corelation of the word "stupid asshole" that you like).

 

[TomCat84]

I think we're all missing the point: It wouldn't matter ONE FUCKING BIT if Obama were a Muslim.

 

[gfforrent]

I think we're all missing the point: It wouldn't matter ONE FUCKING BIT if Obama were a Muslim.

More to the point....it SHOULDN'T matter. But we are sheepish people who allow fear and ignorance to be the driving force of our minds and conversation. I long for the day when an "accused" leader can say "SO THE FUCK WHAT IF I AM???!"
This whole sad episode is leading me to believe that a mojority of my fellow citizens couldn't really care less how fucking stupid we appear to the rest of the world.
PS...theres a mosque located inside the Pentagon.

 

[D_Sir Fitzwilly Wankheimer III]

But what good is an opinion when it's not based on anything factual?
Everyone should know by now that Obama isn't a Muslim. Not after the BS we all had to go through before and during the 2008 election with Jeremiah Wright, and through the absolute nonsense spread by the birthers about being a Kenyan. At one point he was everything except American to these idiots.



Why get upset? To elaborate on what I said earlier, more and more people don't want to listen to or hear the facts. They develop some kind of "opinion" based on their own prejudices or desires and wait until someone in a powerful position is kooky enough to agree with them. If someone believed that 1+1=3 and Sarah Palin came out and endorsed it, you could do an "opinion poll" and get a percentage of Americans to agree with it. It's the willing embracement of ignorance and stupidity, and that in itself is stupid.

Why do we need to continue to nurture a nation of crybabies who can't take it when they're blatantly wrong? If they don't have the facts right, then just tell them point blank... you're wrong. And if they continue to complain and act as if they're not in agreement with you because of some divisive title knowing that they're wrong, call the shit what it is.



Yeah, but 1 out of 10 Democrats actually believed this nonsense as well according to the same "opinion poll".

This wasn't a question that required people to make a statement about the administration or the current atmosphere in today's politics. He doesn't become more American when he does something you like or more Muslim when he doesn't. It was as simple as asking what noise does a cow make or what color the sky is. There are some things in this world where opinions don't count. If Obama's religious affiliation was a Jeopardy question, their "opinion" wouldn't have scored them anything. At the same time, you can bet some stupid people would have written in and complained that the show had a "liberal bias" because the answer didn't add up to their flawed convictions.

opinions are based on experience, our experience with Obama is that he's been kissing muslim ass. it's easy for someone to lie. and from what we've experienced he's also done quite a bit of that.


ie, you may be a very nice person but from my experience my opinon of you is very low and I have every right to feel that way because that is how you have presented youreself.

 

[TomCat84]

opinions are based on experience, our experience with Obama is that he's been kissing muslim ass. it's easy for someone to lie. and from what we've experienced he's also done quite a bit of that.


ie, you may be a very nice person but from my experience my opinon of you is very low and I have every right to feel that way because that is how you have presented youreself.

 

[Pendlum]

But 'being a nice person' isn't nearly a defined aspect such as being christian or being muslim.

Besides, I can't imagine a muslim pretending to be a christian for some kind of secret scheme. It just doesn't work. You have to really be looking for things to think he is a muslim. But that is a common problem with people who believe conspiracies. But they never seem to ask themselves, "Why would someone running a conspiracy leave all these little clues for people to pick up on if their goal is to fool everyone." The truth is, they wouldn't.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

I think we're all missing the point: It wouldn't matter ONE FUCKING BIT if Obama were a Muslim.

It really wouldn't make any difference. But the fact that he isn't and people think that he is after all the noise about just two years ago means that some serious crack is going around.

Kinda sad to see how absent minded dissenters interchange the words "terrorist", "Muslim", "Islam" and "Mexican" so freely these days. Jump, lemmings, jump!!

opinions are based on experience, our experience with Obama is that he's been kissing muslim ass. it's easy for someone to lie. and from what we've experienced he's also done quite a bit of that.

Opinion is not fact. Experience only counts for something if it generates a response that has any level of factual accuracy. As in this case, calling Obama a Muslim is wrong. Period. Obama is a Christian and that fact is not up for debate regardless of your suspicions. Now, if you want to pass judgement and think he's not a good Christian because you think he panders to Muslims too much then so be it. However, be careful when judging character around here. You do realize that you're on a big penis site.

Feel free to have your beliefs as much as you want regardless of how true or false they are. Believe in unicorns and leprechauns while you're at it. But if it's wrong, it's WRONG and no amount of whining about your opponents being a "libtard" or a "conservitwat" will change that.

 

[vince]

opinions are based on experience, our experience with Obama is that he's been kissing muslim ass. it's easy for someone to lie. and from what we've experienced he's also done quite a bit of that.

Doesn't matter if he eats muslim ass. It doesn't make him one.

When did American conservatives become such pussies? Are their arguments so weak that they have to resort to this kind of kiddie shit? "Obama is a Muslim", "Obama is a Muslim lover", "Obama is a socialist", "Obama is from Kenya" Obama is blah, blah, wah, wah! It's sad watching these halfwits slowly pull your great country apart.

 

[matt19]

It's not liberals or conservatives that believe he is a muslim. Those people are educatated on political matters. It's the independents and politically un-attached that think he is a muslim. And the reason they believe this is obama's own doing. He has tried to be anything and everything to all people. and when the politically un-attached watch their 2 minutes of national news they see obama defending muslims and pressing their agenda they assume he must be a muslim, especially since he kind of looks like a muslim, and has a muslim sounding name. These politically un-attached people probably get their 2 mins of national news via left-leaning news channels (abc, cbs, nbc) I say this because unless you are politacally charged you probably don't watch fox news. They're watching regular TV just catching small bits of news by chance. Maybe a USA today cover story or something too.

 

[helgaleena]

Fox news is terribly biased. It's maddening what passes on that channel for 'fact'.

 

[helgaleena]

You guys seem pretty damn sure that Obama isn't a cryptomuslim, but there is evidence to the contrary.

What is a 'crypto-Muslim'???

 

[D_Tim McGnaw]

Doesn't matter if he eats muslim ass. It doesn't make him one.

When did American conservatives become such pussies? Are their arguments so weak that they have to resort to this kind of kiddie shit? "Obama is a Muslim", "Obama is a Muslim lover", "Obama is a socialist", "Obama is from Kenya" Obama is blah, blah, wah, wah! It's sad watching these halfwits slowly pull your great country apart.

This. I mean I can't even believe it's a point of discussion in America, let alone that it's worthy of being polled for. If he were a Muslim, so what? He isn't, if by associating Obama with Islam US citizens are making the equation Islam = Evil = Obama is Evil then there is something very very wrong among certain groups within US society.

I mean what exactly is the difference between Obama being a Christian and him being a Muslim? And yet these polls show that of those who thought he was Christian the majority were satified with his presidency, and of those who thought he was Muslim the majority were dissatisfied with him, of those who didn't know his religion the satisfaction was more like half and half. Frankly these statistics are nuts, and say something very worrying about US culture and society.

 

[Industrialsize]

This. I mean I can't even believe it's a point of discussion in America, let alone that it's worthy of being polled for. If he were a Muslim, so what? He isn't, if by associating Obama with Islam US citizens are making the equation Islam = Evil = Obama is Evil then there is something very very wrong among certain groups within US society.

I mean what exactly is the difference between Obama being a Christian and him being a Muslim? And yet these polls show that of those who thought he was Christian the majority were satified with his presidency, and of those who thought he was Muslim the majority were dissatisfied with him, of those who didn't know his religion the satisfaction was more like half and half. Frankly these statistics are nuts, and say something very worrying about US culture and society.

Bingo!

 

[deleted15807]

It's not liberals or conservatives that believe he is a muslim. Those people are educatated on political matters. It's the independents and politically un-attached that think he is a muslim. And the reason they believe this is obama's own doing. He has tried to be anything and everything to all people. and when the politically un-attached watch their 2 minutes of national news they see obama defending muslims and pressing their agenda they assume he must be a muslim, especially since he kind of looks like a muslim, and has a muslim sounding name. These politically un-attached people probably get their 2 mins of national news via left-leaning news channels (abc, cbs, nbc) I say this because unless you are politacally charged you probably don't watch fox news. They're watching regular TV just catching small bits of news by chance. Maybe a USA today cover story or something too.

From the article:

• More than a third of conservative Republicans now say Obama is a Muslim, nearly double the percentage saying so early last year. Independents, too, are now more apt to see the president as a Muslim: Among independents, 18 percent say he is a Muslim, up eight percentage points.

• 25 percent say most Muslims in the United States are not patriotic Americans

• Among those who say Obama is a Muslim, 60 percent say they learned about his religion from the media, suggesting that their opinions are fueled by misinformation.

The only media outlet doing that would be FoxFauxFixed News. No other 'source' would engage in such disinformation.

.....by associating Obama with Islam US citizens are making the equation Islam = Evil = Obama is Evil then there is something very very wrong among certain groups within US society.

Ha!! OF COURSE. You must not know that some Americans refer to him as 'Barack Hussein Obama', stressing the middle name. Too 'muslimy' and too otherworld and too evil. Mix that and the birther crazies and bake at 400 degrees for one hour and you get the absolute worst America has to offer the world.