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Discussion in 'Politics' started by HungGay, Jan 9, 2012.
In the same sex marriage thread I was thinking it would be easier to just have a poll
wheres the option for abolish all marriage?
Make it legal!
Damn i forgot the abolish marriage option lol
Seriously, the bible condemns adultery as much if not more than homosexuality. If you really want to "protect marriage" make adultery a felony. The arguments are, oh Jesus if we let gays marry, then people will want to marry their goat and have ten wives. Okay, that's cr. eepy, but why does anyone care! I don't want to marry a goat, but what the hell it's totally okay to marry someone who's completely wrong for you. Who hasn't had friends who have gotten married to the wrong guy or girl. Yeah, they'd be better off marrying the goat.
you have a good point.............try make adultery a felony and watch the wingnut religious wacks go crazy.
I've never been able to figure out that tie in to homosexuality, unless it's a lesbian that might want 10 wives or the gay farmer who might want his own harem of male goats.........................
Lol, that could be quite entertaining!
It isn't really a comparison to homosexuality.
It is just a comparison between the reasoning to allow it.
If you don't want to limit what two people do. Why should we limit what 10 people do. Or limit what a person can do with their property.
or limit the benefits they can get?
We don't necessarily limit the benefits, we just don't extend them.
It is like saying I have two brothers. I gave one 10 dollars and the other nothing. Does the second brother deserve 10 dollars? No. I didn't even have to give the first 10 dollars.
You mean, its like saying I have two brothers. I kill one and not the other. Does the second brother deserve killing? No, I dont even have to kill the first brother.
This isnt about extending a favour to gay people. Its about preventing them from doing something quite ordinary which ordinary people like to do. Just live with someone they want to and have that recognised by society in the same way.
Do you think polygamy is so far fetched? It works in other cultures, not my cup of tea but what the hell.
And once again, NO.
There is not a single law within the United States of American which makes a same-sex marriage illegal.
There are only laws which do not extend marriage benefits to them. The government is under no obligation to give opposite couples benefits. They do it because they see a secular benefit. They don't see a secular benefit that warrants giving same-sex couples these same benefits.
I wish everyone was like that...
tolerance instead of hate and denial, what a concept....
There is only one kind of marriage in the United States, and it's the one that changes your civil status. It is not available to the large number of same-gender couples in most states, and absolutely not recognized at the federal level. It's not illegal for 2 men or 2 women to get married to each other; it's worse than that: it's wholly unavailable to them. This creates government favoritism with no basis and hardship for many (immigration, for instance). Where does the constitution say the government may discriminate among taxpaying, law abiding citizens on the basis of gender (i.e., specifying the gender of your spouse)?
Recognizing relationships is a valid function of government. Marriage (the kind religions perform, the one with no teeth) should be unrelated to government. Civil unions for couples of any gender are a sensible policy to further societal stability and the cost-effective, orderly conduct of business. It is unrealistic to expect every couple to draw up 1,100 contracts in order to simulate what change of civil status achieves today.
As I have said before, tell that to the Amish.
Just how influential are the Amish?
I think about as influential as the smurfs... but I could be wrong.
Whenever I hear some nut saying "Marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman!" I respond with one of my favorite Chris Rock quotes "Michael Jackson got married. How sacred is that shit?" That usually shuts them up for about half an hour.
Here is one place where I agree with Tamati.