Posting a thread....

[185248]

Posting a thread about subject matter which appears in papers, public media, should not attract personal attacks by members here.................but it does.

If someone posts a thread containing subject matter which is subject to public volatility.....

Do you think they deserve personality attacks?

 

[chicagosam]

Please cite the thread so that the subject matter posted can be perused, how it was presented, the responses can be seen, along with any interaction between the OP and the respondents.

IIf the OP has been unduly maligned, that should be reported to the moderating team to sort out, and not become fodder for a general discussion.

 

[TexanStar]

Posting a thread about subject matter which appears in papers, public media, should not attract personal attacks by members here.................but it does.

If someone posts a thread containing subject matter which is subject to public volatility.....

Do you think they deserve personality attacks?

In this purely hypothetical scenario, does the poster you are referring to make a ceaseless habit of posting anti-American rhetoric suggesting that all Americans are petty tyrants and murderers that are destroying the world, that they deserve school shootings, are completely devoid of morals, etc, and routinely interrupt other discussions in order to express those opinions?

 

[185248]

Please cite the thread so that the subject matter posted can be perused, how it was presented, the responses can be seen, along with any interaction between the OP and the respondents.

IIf the OP has been unduly maligned, that should be reported to the moderating team to sort out, and not become fodder for a general discussion.

104 year old euthanasia..............

Yeah, sure. in this thread I started I was harsh on this old guy because he made public his suicide. For me, it seemed like he was granted a long life, yet dipped out on paying the price in the end.....

Anyway....he made his suicide public, which for me opens up public criticism of his actions.

I posted his story....along with my thoughts on his publicised suicide.

But some personally attacked me because I expressed my thoughts. Yeah, ok, basic and knee jerk.

Why did they just not say, ok...Don't agree with you vibzze, he did his own thing.....But no.

I could go very easily go on the attack, but I don't. And no....am not a tattletale ...

And it's late..........am tired.......not ready to be put down tho.....44 years to go..if I'm lucky.I'll sit on a beach and wait for the tide to come in to take me out

 

[TexanStar]

104 year old euthanasia..............

Yeah, sure. in this thread I started I was harsh on this old guy because he made public his suicide. For me, it seemed like he was granted a long life, yet dipped out on paying the price in the end.....

Anyway....he made his suicide public, which for me opens up public criticism of his actions.

I posted his story....along with my thoughts on his publicised suicide.

But some personally attacked me because I expressed my thoughts. Yeah, ok, basic and knee jerk.

Why did they just not say, ok...Don't agree with you vibzze, he did his own thing.....But no.

I could go very easily go on the attack, but I don't. And no....am not a tattletale ...

And it's late..........am tired.......not ready to be put down tho.....44 years to go..if I'm lucky.I'll sit on a beach and wait for the tide to come in to take me out

For that thread, you made personal attacks against a recently deceased conservationist of whom a lot of posters have a positive opinion.

You didn't start a generalized political thread discussing the morality of suicide, you instead just started ragging on David Goodall on the day of his death. And you're honestly and truly surprised that you got some personal attacks in return?

You're certainly old enough to know by now that negativity begets negativity. You're free to be as negative as you like here, but at least have the maturity to respect that you've reaped what you sowed.

 

[185248]

In this purely hypothetical scenario, does the poster you are referring to make a ceaseless habit of posting anti-American rhetoric suggesting that all Americans are petty tyrants and murderers that are destroying the world, that they deserve school shootings, are completely devoid of morals, etc, and routinely interrupt other discussions in order to express those opinions?

Tell me what is hypothetical about your post?

 

[TexanStar]

Tell me what is hypothetical about your post?

Your post. You led with a hypothetical, I was trying to understand if you were talking about yourself or not (you clarified later what you were talking about when you moved out of the hypothetical and into the actual).

 

[185248]

For that thread, you made personal attacks against a recently deceased conservationist of whom a lot of posters have a positive opinion.

You didn't start a generalized political thread discussing the morality of suicide, you instead just started ragging on David Goodall on the day of his death. And you're honestly and truly surprised that you got some personal attacks in return?

You're certainly old enough to know by now that negativity begets negativity. You're free to be as negative as you like here, but at least have the maturity to respect that you've reaped what you sowed.

Yup, I sure did. Because he made public his suicide. I guess you would have been one of the ones that would have tuned in to watch if it was televised..since you support it so much...wouldn't you?

I did not ask you to comment on me, you did that of your own free will. I commented on David Goodalls negativity and disrespect of the ending life had in store for him. He lived in a 1st world society where he was able to travel by plane to the other side of the planet to commit suicide.


I'm not at all surprised by your negativity, since it is mostly what you post since you have been here. You show very little balance. 95% of what you post is political.............most of which is one sided.

Your own posting history...if that does not answer your negativity and how inwardly focused you are in your outlook of life.

Then I don't know what is.

Take a look at yourself before you point your bony little finger at someone else.

Because really, if it was not me you focus on...........it would be someone else.

 

[TexanStar]

Yup, I sure did. Because he made public his suicide. I guess you would have been one of the ones that would have tuned in to watch if it was televised..since you support it so much...wouldn't you?

I did not ask you to comment on me, you did that of your own free will. I commented on David Goodalls negativity and disrespect of the ending life had in store for him. He lived in a 1st world society where he was able to travel by plane to the other side of the planet to commit suicide.


I'm not at all surprised by your negativity, since it is mostly what you post since you have been here. You show very little balance. 95% of what you post is political.............most of which is one sided.

Your own posting history...if that does not answer your negativity and how inwardly focused you are in your outlook of life.

Then I don't know what is.

Take a look at yourself.

*shrug* Out of the two of us, I'm not the one expressing general confusion about why a bunch of people personally attacked him.

I gave you an accurate answer. Rather than accepting it, you choose to try and justify your behavior and will likely still continue to think it's everyone else's behavioral issues rather than your own. You're welcome to, and I look forward to your next post crying about why are people here sometimes so short with you.

 

[chicagosam]

104 year old euthanasia..............

Yeah, sure. in this thread I started I was harsh on this old guy because he made public his suicide. For me, it seemed like he was granted a long life, yet dipped out on paying the price in the end.....

Anyway....he made his suicide public, which for me opens up public criticism of his actions.

I posted his story....along with my thoughts on his publicised suicide.

But some personally attacked me because I expressed my thoughts. Yeah, ok, basic and knee jerk.

Why did they just not say, ok...Don't agree with you vibzze, he did his own thing.....But no.

I could go very easily go on the attack, but I don't. And no....am not a tattletale ...

And it's late..........am tired.......not ready to be put down tho.....44 years to go..if I'm lucky.I'll sit on a beach and wait for the tide to come in to take me out

I suspected the thread you attached was the subject of this thread. Got it. You did not expect the responses you received. I’m going to stay neutral on this matter. Right or wrong, I can understand your reaction to a negative response. No one likes when that happens. However, you are at LPSG and dissentient expletive laden responses are not uncommon at this site. You’ve been around long enough to know the cast of characters; so, you can either engage in similar banter, or you can intentionally disregard and move on. An opinion can be attacked—that’s fair, but personal attacks—not fair—serve no purpose other than a moment of self-gratification for the attacker. If someone cannot be civil to you, disregard them, and take the higher road. (Almost everyone I have placed on IGNORE has been banned.). Just make sure that ignoring is the best choice. There are those at this site who may not present themselves well in their initial interaction with you; and, yet, given time, may be worth overlooking their adverse comments with consideration made for, eventually, opening the door to them. (I have one poster like that—who I still don’t agree with—but who is always respectful of me and I of him.) The only time an all out assault is fair game is for engaging an outrageous troll, and even that can be done effectively at a high level without getting down and dirty. The good thing is that there are plenty of people at this site who are pleasant and are worth engaging in agreement and in disagreement. However, if you decide to lower yourself, you need to take ownership of your choice and what comes back at you. You’re responsible for you.

 

[LaFemme]

No, I don’t believe posting a thread that’s contentious should devolve into personal attacks. Attacks completely derail any chance of interesting or intelligent discussion.

But I don’t think one should be surprised by personal attack either. It’s the internet. People can’t seem to help themselves. Instead of sitting back and gathering their thoughts, thinking of why the post makes them so angry and composing something intelligent, instead they lash out. It’s far easier to attack the person than to compose an argument.

It can come from the best of people and the worst of people. Try not to take it personally. I have had it happen to me, and from those I felt were friends. Weigh out the total knowledge of the person, and move on. Forgive from the good and purge the evil.

 

[EllieP]

If you're only posting a fact or event from a legitimate news source then there should be no personal attacks.

If you present an opinion along with that fact or event, then be prepared to have your opinion challenged.

But it should never devolve into personal attacks. The first one who sticks their tongue out loses.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

The answer to the question posted is No.

I was the one you accused if "attacking" you, when in fact I was just participating in a mature conversation. Apparently my words were misunderstood.

If you don't appreciate honest answers, maybe you should think before starting threads in the first place. If you don't want to hear what I have to say, feel free to use the ignore function. You don't have to read my posts, but I am in fact allowed to reply to threads started in open forums.

I wasn't trolling. I didn't attack anyone personally.

That's all.

 

[EllieP]

The answer to the question posted is No.

I was the one you accused if "attacking" you, when in fact I was just participating in a mature conversation. Apparently my words were misunderstood.

If you don't appreciate honest answers, maybe you should think before starting threads in the first place. If you don't want to hear what I have to say, feel free to use the ignore function. You don't have to read my posts, but I am in fact allowed to reply to threads started in open forums.

I wasn't trolling. I didn't attack anyone personally.

That's all.

We're all adults here, but there are some who have been given participation trophies all their life and been told their shit don't stink.

Everybody stinks at one time or another.

Adult discourse used to be a given, but in these days it seems like it's a rare commodity. I have unfollowed everyone on Facebook that posts a political opinion one way or the other. One of my close friends who shares my political sway was upset at that because we think alike. I told her I'd like to have one place where fun is fun and I'm not preached to. I'm a grown ass woman who doesn't need propaganda in any form to make a decision.

I wish we had more mature conversation on here, but like I said, too many participation trophies.

 

[Brian S]

Well, I went back and looked at the thread and I could barely get through your OP. I try to always stay above personal attacks, but man, you came out of the gate swinging. To be fair, it doesn't come off like you wanted civil discourse on the matter. You insulted a man's death on the day of his death. I think there are some compelling arguments on both sides of the issue, but again, judging by your initial post, it didn't indicate you wanted to talk about it, it indicated you just wanted to slam one particular man. I don't think you get to decide how another man lives or dies. It's none of your business. Also, the fact that you brought up that he "got out of suffering" says a lot about the post in general.

TL;DR - If you want civil discourse on a topic, start with civil discourse on the topic. Don't be surprised when you get attacked after starting a thread in the manner that you did.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

We're all adults here, but there are some who have been given participation trophies all their life and been told their shit don't stink.

Everybody stinks at one time or another.

Adult discourse used to be a given, but in these days it seems like it's a rare commodity. I have unfollowed everyone on Facebook that posts a political opinion one way or the other. One of my close friends who shares my political sway was upset at that because we think alike. I told her I'd like to have one place where fun is fun and I'm not preached to. I'm a grown ass woman who doesn't need propaganda in any form to make a decision.

I wish we had more mature conversation on here, but like I said, too many participation trophies.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean in this response to my post... Who got a "participation trophy"?

I confusededed...

 

[Brian S]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean in this response to my post... Who got a "participation trophy"?

I confusededed...

I have to agree. Also, OP didn't start his thread with civil discourse. I don't understand what participation trophies even means, actually, in reference to this.

 

[EllieP]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean in this response to my post... Who got a "participation trophy"?

I confusededed...

I mean that those folks who cannot engage in civil discourse are sometimes spoiled brats who've never had anything but their way. When faced with different ideas, not even opposing ideas, they become huge crybabies. I'm beginning to see more and more people like that. The polarization of society adds to that.

There's an "if you're not with me you're against me" mentality. I'm not even totally with my husband, but I love him all the same. Hell, I'm not totally with anyone!

 

[MisterB]

Participation trophies: Everyone who competes in a given competition gets a trophy or plaque because there are no winners or losers. Never understood it. I don't have kids, but I can tell you it sure ain't how life works!

It was kinda the "politically correct' thing to do for many parents over the last 30 or so years; kinda like telling your kid "good job" even when little Ricky or Suzie really sucked at whatever they were trying to do. Whatever happened to just saying "nice try"?

So now we've got some young people who seem to have an unrealistic concept about how life really functions. That you don't get a trophy or a plaque or a medal or an atta boy/girl every day. Life's hard. Some days are easier than others.

I interviewed a young lady fresh out of college for an entry level job with the Federal Government. At the end of the interview, I asked if she had any questions about the job, the Agency, etc? Her response: (1) How soon could she get promoted? (2) How soon could she get a raise? and (3) Mom, do you have any questions? What???

Seems she had had her mother on her phone in her lap throughout the entire interview. She did not get a trophy that day. Nor a job.

 

[Enid]

I just peeked at the euthanasia thread and read the OP (not the article though). I had not heard of this man.

What I will say is that I found the commentary a little bit offensive...calling him a wimp, saying he didn't have the balls to end it violently with a gun.

I'm not saying it's right for anyone to attack the OP, but I can certainly understand why hackles were raised.