Premature ejaculation, really looking for proven solutions or advice

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  1. omg_its_me

    omg_its_me New Member

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    hey everyone, so ive had this problem since forever. ive done extensive research from years of reading about techniques and options. im a student of health science so i know the body pretty well.
    ive tried many things such as pc exercises but i kind of doubt them because they never worked for me. In my opinion i dont see how it can really make a significant difference. The pc muscles affect the urinary tractway including ejaculation and and urinating however they dont affect the nerves in the penis. if the nerves are stimulated to orgasm u will have involuntary contractions to ejaculate and can force the muscles to spasm. however if they are really strong it can prevent ejaculation, but the orgasm still occurs followed by the penile refractory period.
    ive tried things like lidocaine and some numbing condoms but there a huge hassle and works for 5 or 10 min at best. ive tried fucking in different positions but they dont work. during things like stamina work or edging i can prevent orgasm but that's because i dont stroke it as fast or hard, if i do, the same thing happens.i have a gf and im lucky shes able to cum quickly so my sex life is pretty good but i know she could take so much more.
    the only thing i havent tried is anti-depressants mainly because i dont have the guts to go to the doctor, or buy them online because of lack of credibility. one amazing thing that happened was when i fucked while high on pot, i was able to fuck without having the feeling creep up on me when it usually does, but i really dont like smoking pot that often.
    from what ive gathered, way back in the day the faster the animal ejaculates the less vunerable it is from predators and more likely to do it more often and reproduce. therefore premature ejaculation was an evolutionary advantage, at least it used to be. i dont want to admit it but im starting to feel like this was the genetics and biology i was given and cant change this. i wouldnt normally post these things unless i couldnt think of another option.
    if you took the time to read this essay(sorry its so long), and have had the same problems and found a real solution that really worked for you please leave a post and let me know. any real solutions or advice would truly be appreciated
     
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    Hey man! I have talked to many friends about this and the advice I always get is the same: THINK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE while having sex. I have the same issue and usually when I feel that the sensation is building up, I would slow down or start fingering her, or just stop and kiss her for a while.... stuff like that... You are on the good size that your gf does cum when you have sex, so I don't really see a problem...

    best of lucks!
     
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    hey atlas, thanx for the response but unfortunately ive exhasted that method with no good effect either. my gf cums but i noe we could probly have a much better sex life. im the one lacking and its really frustrating for me
     
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    various drugs are supposed to slow down ejaculation notably including illegal ones. generally considered a nuisance by users, but in this case perhaps an added benefit. The simple advice is that every time you come it then becomes harder to come the next time shortly after. Obviously, overdo this and your not fit for anything, but you might find if there is an ideal time for you to wank off before having sex with someone so as to last longer at the big moment.

    SSRIs (generally touted as antidepressants) tend to slow down and totally destroy any or all of sex drive/ejaculation/orgasm. Antidepressants are usually designed to have a long half life so they stay at steady levels in the body, which isnt entirely helful just for an evening. Dapoxetine has a relatively short half life and is sold mixed with viagra as a treatment for premature ejaculation. As best I can work out Viagra itself also slows down ejacultion.Personal experience and what some others have said suggests this. You might have an erection all night but cant come as often as if you hadnt taken it. So depends which bit you are interested in. I have never read an explanation of exactly why this is, but it seems to be because the whole business of sex from getting an erection to orgasm, ejaculation and then inability to go again is a complicated chain of chemical messages which involves the same or similar chemicals at different points. SSRIs interfere differently with different receptors and there are many different types doing different things in the body. Different SSRIs are different so may (do) have varying effects. Similalry the different PDE5 inhibitors (viagra variants) have different effects on different parts of the body and I dont know if anyone has worked out exactly what they are doing on sex performance apart from the obvious.

    If you are interested in edging, then ssris can be fun because you can get all the way to sperm coming out without orgasm. You can even pump your dick muscles yourself so it spurts out and looks dead like you just came...but of course you didnt so can go again. next time you see a clip of someone ejaculaing 10 times in a row, maybe he knows that trick.
     
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    dandelion, thanx for the response, that was about the most technical post ive seen here and a fresh break from those "just whack it before" or "workout those pc muscles man!!" posts.

    the penis, orgasms, and ejaculation is a very different part of the body than most people think and is not comparable to muscles and working out, and you cant change this part of the body naturally. im starting to see that perhaps one of the only solutions is altering the natural chemistry of your body with drugs.

    I know that SSRI's tend to stay in your system longer a person would want for this effect because its not made for pre-ejaculation, which is also why ive been hesitant. i am very curious about the dapoxetine drug since its much shorter lived in the body and will definetely look into that. i guess the better options are to try these drugs and see if they work.

    if anyone else has tried and found real solutions or any real helpful advice pls leave a post
     
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    Hi omg_its_me. I read your posts with interest. I sympathise with the issue. I've suffered from this acutely twice in my life, once when I was first having sex, for a couple of years really, and then again with a girl who really undermined my confidence. I think it's definitely a psychological issue. It's great that your girlfriend cums quickly, but I can totally appreciate how you would like to last longer.

    Sometimes I can last a lot longer, and fuck harder and faster than other times. I'm not entirely sure what differentiates those times, other than when I'm really, really turned on and have had lots of foreplay before having sex. I agree with the basic principal of "think about something else" but it's easier said than done and doesn't always work. I find counting or reading posters on the wall can help when I need to take the edge of the sensation.

    I've been discussing topic with friends recently because I think that generally the issue is a mental one, caused by the subconscious mind. The trick, I think, is to find a way to distract your mind and body from wanting to cum without removing yourself from the pleasurable situation. Again, easier said than done, but I think it's a question on mind over matter.

    I'd be interested to find out what you think about this, and other members too.
     
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    Has anyone tried the amino acid methionine? I read sometime back about it and it seems to be working pretty well for me. cheap too.
     
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    I got PE too but I just keep on fucking. Fortunately I don't go soft until after I orgasm three or more times.
     
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    Read the book "The multi-orgasmic male" and do the exercises.

    It may seem hokey at first, but keep visualizing the things they talk about and it will start to make sense!

    Also, "Cockstar" pills.
     
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    Try using 100mg tramadol and a drink 2 to 3 hrs before. Works miracles! Search on google.
     
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    Here are the things I have found really screw with my ability to ejaculate.

    The number one is with little doubt Viagra/Sildenafil. In fact in me Sildenafil Citrate makes the dick hard, but it really prevents me from going "over the top" with ejaculation. I can hump for a hour and get to the edge again and again and not go over.

    The same thing that causes the refractory period also plays havoc. The refractory period after sex is caused by a bolus of the hormone prolactin. In females it is used during lactation and prevents interest in sexual intercourse. In males it is used as the control mechanism for erections and in some it can kill erections and desire. If refractory time is excessive for you then this is an indicator of a possible medical problem.

    There is a prescription drug designed and manufactured specifically for premature ejaculation. Personally I would try literally everything else first. It is very effective, but, the stuff is like $40 per pill. If it were me I would rather end the refractory period and go for it multiple times than spend $40 on a pill to prevent ejaculation.

    The one thing guaranteed to work is a reduction in semen reserves. Simply, get off the same morning you plan on having sex with a good old wank session. That usually will slow things down.

    My personal experiences with exercise routines are that they really do not work. The orgasmic response is tied in to the nerve endings within the penis and the signals sent to the brain. If the semen is there in large quantities the nerve pathways will do everything they can to help you get rid of it even when you don't want to.

    I do not endorse alcohol or other recreational drugs simply because they can be hit or miss and those that slow ejaculation can also impact erections sporadically.

    Good Luck!
     
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    I got the same problem. I have tried 'Foredi' gel. So I put some on my cock, let it warm for some minutes, then wash it and ready to fuck :) It's amazing! I can go for like hours [I'm not exaggerating]! The gel makes my cock insensitive, it indeed decreases the sensation of fucking. But making me go for hours is really worth buying! Anyway, I live in Indonesia, so I don't know if there's Foredi thing in your country. You can ask Uncle Google lol
    Hope this helps :)
     
  13. ta4me

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    Take HTP-15, from Swanson Vitamin. HTP is the precursor to serotinin. The end result is you produce more serotinin, which is similar (possibly safer) to using anti depressions for their serotinin reuptake inhibitor function.
     
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    I too suffer from premature ejaculation but, good for me, is that I stay hard and continue intercourse until I orgsam two more times. If I am well rested, I orgasm a fourth time before I go flacid. I wish I didn't cum so quickly the first time, but on the other hand, it's a nice build up for the subsequent orgasms.
     
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    I'm curious, what do you think defines premature ejaculation? Is there a certain time? I'm just curious to why you think you have premature ejaculation, especially if you haven't seen a doctor. Specifically, the average time for actual sexual intercourse is 7 minutes (ie penis in vagina), but otherwise, from what I've learnt, in a purely academic view point here, premature ejaculation really is only a medical diagnosis if you or your partner is having problems with it, and if you both are getting off, I guess it really depends on what you believe is the normal amount of time a man should last.

    One issue you might be facing however, is the knowledge or weight, that you 'have a premature ejaculation problem'. So during sex, if you have this in your back of the mind, it can speed up the time of your ejaculation because as some people have pointed out, what you focus on does impact on how long you last. Things like Cognitive Behaviour Therapy might help in this area, as well as in general but to do those sort of things properly you would have to see a doctor or therapist of some sort.

    On the medication side of things, I can't honestly put in a valid opinion here, although I know how SSRI, MAOIs and other mood stabilising drugs effect the brain, I've never done much research into how it affects PE. Same goes with Viagra and those sort of drugs. Obviously however, all medications come with some risk, especially if you use them for other reasons but like you said you would have to see a doctor about getting them, in which case, talking to him/her would be beneficial for you about this in all regards.

    Basically mate, its great getting ideas off people on the internet, but push come to shove, head to your doctor and just chat it out with them, PE is defiantly not an odd thing they come across.
     
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    No one i dont see how you seem to think that PE is of Evolutionary Benifit if find not being able to satisfy a woman provide for survival of the fittist.
    Just learn to control when you cum. Antidepressents for slowing when you cum. Im cant believe someone who does health science would choose to change their body chemistry to achieve something that can be achieved naturally.
    Chill out and fuck dont think about cumming.
     
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    I've been using 5htp which can be brought cheAp taking around 200mg and also using ldopa which raises dompimine which helps lower prolactin, l dopa dosage depends on what extract but I would take 1g before bed after a few days u wil feel s difference in ur wood but I find doesn't last long it does help getting ur cock hard again after blowing, usplabs product called powerful is good, it's a gh booster product that puts u in s deep sleep but as it contains l dopa it gives u good longer lasting wood
     
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    Wow I really didn’t think I was going to get any more responses after February, so to those who gave real quality input instead of pure conjecture and opinions thank you. Ill continue this post with responses to people​
    Alfresco boy thanks for your input and I hope you don’t experience another incident of PE. In regards to theory that psychology plays a controlling role of your ejaculation, I can agree on that. The mind is powerful and there are times when I masturbate while just watching tv and have indeed lasted longer. The reason why I searched for other solutions is because I find it hard to pull my mind away from an actual sexual encounter. I commend those who have the ability to do so however whenever I try to think about unrelated things such as sports or television the naked girl moaning under me and biting my ear always brings me back. I have tried distracting my mind by inflicting localized pain such as biting the tongue or pinching without great results. ​
    Alex aussie thanks for the advice about the doctor, ive found that ive been more reluctant to the idea. I agree with you that there is a huge ambiguity with the definition of PE from what a person feels is the satisfactory time frame to what medical professionals determine what PE is. My personal opinion is there really is no such disorder as PE, rather there are people who fall under the definition of what PE is. When people began complaining of ejaculating early or when it became deemed as a disadvantageous quality, the medical industry coined the name premature ejaculation. Following my opinion, I am one of those who fall under the definition of what PE is. I believe PE is when a person has no control over their ejaculation. In other words when a person gets near the edge and can’t get away from it, even with the start stop method or mental distraction, continued stimulation will quickly bring them over the edge.
    In regards to your next issue I have tried to not think about PE during sex. Ill initiate it and continue it with intentions that it would last longer than usual and that the PE won’t creep up on me, however it usually does. ​
    Bigirishman all you’ve done is interjected your uninformed opinion. If you reread my post you’ll realize that PE was very likely to have been a benefit A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Sex and ejaculation is to ensure procreation and increase the population. A person who can ejaculate quicker, for the most part can ejaculate a larger number of times in a given period of time, therefore leads to more chances of reproduction. I hope you can assume that satisfying a woman would not be a requirement for the biological act of reproduction. In another situation an animal and any animal who ejaculates quickly reduces the time of vulnerability it has from a predator or danger therefore more likely to survive to reproduce again. If you read what I posted carefully youll see that I stated that PE “was an evolutionary advantage, at least it used to be” meaning that humans have evolved to a point where PE hinders the social act of reproduction for an individual therefore becoming an undesirable quality. Furthermore what I cant believe is that you did not assume that I had already tried natural and other methods that would not involve me posting on the internet or trying drugs. Believe me I have chilled out and fucked without thinking about cumming.​
    For those who suggested other products and drugs I appreciate it and will definitely look into them​
     
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    Hey mate,

    Sorry to dig up a semi-old post... But, any luck?
    I'm in exactly the same boat (tried everything except drugs).

    I've been reading about 5HTP - not sure about some of the 'testimonials' though.
     
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    I've tried 100mg of 5HTP and notice a small difference. I feel like I don't reach the edge as quickly, and that I have some slight control over resisting the urge to cum when I'm close to the edge.

    Maybe I should try a higher dose... I just didn't want to screw around too much with something that affects your brain chemistry.
     
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