President Bush - Overall Job Rating

Where do you stand on President Bush's job performance?

  • Strongly Approve

    Votes: 9 7.3%
  • Somewhat Approve

    Votes: 11 8.9%
  • Strongly Disapprove

    Votes: 95 77.2%
  • Somewhat Disapprove

    Votes: 8 6.5%

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Autonomy of humanity and their idocity in numbers: (highlighted two sections that mean the most to me)

Post office clerks put up signs saying position closed
And secretaries turn off typewriters and put on their coats
Janitors padlock the gates
For security guards to patrol
And bachelors phone up their friends for a drink
While the married ones turn on a chat show

And they'll all be lonely tonight and lonely tomorrow

Gentlemen time please, you know we can't serve anymore
Now the traffic lights change to stop, when there's nothing to go
And by five o'clock everything's dead
And every third car is a cab
And ignorant people sleep in their beds
Like the doped white mice in the college lab


Nothing ever happens, nothing happens at all
The needle returns to the start of the song
And we all sing along like before


And we'll all be lonely tonight and lonely tomorrow

Telephone exchanges click while there's nobody there
The Martians could land in the carpark and no one would care
Close-circuit cameras in department stores shoot the same video every day
And the stars of these films neither die nor get killed
Just survive constant action replay

Nothing ever happens, nothing happens at all
The needle returns to the start of the song
And we all sing along like before

And we'll all be lonely tonight and lonely tomorrow

Bill hoardings advertise products that nobody needs
While angry from Manchester writes to complain about
All the repeats on T.V.
And computer terminals report some gains
On the values of copper and tin
While American businessmen snap up Van Goghs
For the price of a hospital wing


Nothing ever happens, nothing happens at all
The needle returns to the start of the song
And we all sing along like before
Nothing ever happens, nothing happens at all
They'll burn down the synagogues at six o'clock
And we'll all go along like before

And we'll all be lonely tonight and lonely tomorrow

-- Del Amitri - "Nothing Ever Happens"
 

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You people who compare Bush to Hitler need to step away from the crack pipe and rejoin the world of reality.

Ha Ha Ha... that is a good ol' American bong I am smoking from and I would NEVER compare Bush to hitler, but I am afraid of the nationalistic hubris of this nation and I was comparing the American "people" to the German "people" of say 1930's germany... sorry for not explaining myself better. After all, the third Reich was the German "people" not Hitler, he could have NEVER done what he did without the tacit approval of the common man, period.
 

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How you have allowed a functionally illiterate imbecile to run your country for so long without riots outside the White House is frankly beyond my comprehension.
Well, the protests across the street never make it to riot level - the protesters get arrested and thrown in jail. Illegally arrested and jailed, that is.
You people who compare Bush to Hitler need to step away from the crack pipe and rejoin the world of reality.
Uh, yeah.
 

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Well, the protests across the street never make it to riot level - the protesters get arrested and thrown in jail. Illegally arrested and jailed, that is.

I've read into Mr Bush's re-election. I understand eggs were thrown and there was a general aura of unhappyness?

Maybe America should have enough people that care? I know a lot of you do, but not enough of you.

Inaction and lazyness leads to facism. (go on, flame me)
 

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I think LPSG should send Bush a complimentary membership for being "the biggest dick we've ever seen".

Would make for a hilarious press release!
 

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What I don't understand is why anyone is surprised by our current situation? America is a country of people that are too busy working to have more than momentary reflection on polictics, and even less so on geo-politics.

Like it or not we have to trust what we are told by politicians and live with their mistakes (or lies) until we can get rid of them and see who else the major parties put on a ticket. I have always said that GWB is proof that you don't have to be the best candidate to be elected President, instead all you have to do is be the best candidate nominated by the two major parties.

He lied (or maybe he was just wrong - but since he had all the powers of the Presidency to check the facts then being wrong is probably worse that lieing) about Iraq, and Americans were out for blood after 911. Saddam made the mistake of celebrating the 911 attacks and drawing the average american's ire at the Islamic terrorist. So he and his government paid the price. Unfortuantly so did many innocent people in his country, maybe I'm crazy but I don't like to see innocent people dieing anywhere.

Still americans are realist, and they know that winning in Iraq at this point will probably cost more than it's worth. I believe most American are willing to wait for the next presidential election to decide who has the best solution to this quagmire. It will not be as simple as either quitting and coming home, or continuing down the stupid path we've been on thus far. The left will favor withdrawl and the right will favor staying until are grandchildren are fighting there. But the middle will want a strategy to get out or at least move back to a "fort-like" military stationed there that will be at the least cost possible with the most benefit possible.

Either way, there's no hope for GWB in even influencing american opinion at this point. He has lost all crediability with the electorate, even including many republicans. His legacy will be one of failure. Only the big things count - Iraq, Katrina, Darfur, long-term economic progress (China), and energy. I am comfortable admitting his successes, but none of them have been in significant areas in our current climant.

Still I think it is sad. I was sad for me as I have a crippled son as a result of Iraq, and sad for others due to their losses there and in other places. GWB for me is the prodical son that returned home to his father's house of influence at the worst possible time in his own life.
 
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Some say he's the worst president in modern times, some say he's the worst president ever.

I personally think he's transcended the category: he no longer compares with other presidents, he can only be compared with crowned heads of Europe and emperors of Rome. In both cases the comparison should be with the most decadent examples.

Caligula who made a horse a senator and had himself declared all the gods of the pantheon. Nero who allegedly instigated the fire of Rome and then blamed a strange, new cultish offshoot of judaism. Ludwig of Bavaria who bankrupted the kingdom building Neuschwanstein (the castle that Disneyland recreates), King George III whose madness Alan Bennett dramatized so brilliantly, Czar Peter III who liked to play with toy soldiers, had a "thing" for Frederick the Great of Prussia (who Russia was a war with), and upon becoming Czar, unilaterally gave back all conquered territory of Prussia and made his honor guard dress in Prussian uniforms.

My personal favorite is Pope Pius IX, the last pope to govern the papal states in what's now central and northern Italy. He issued a "Syllabus of errors" declaring freedom of religion and popular sovereignty as heresies--and public lighting and rail transport as dangerous innovation. He ruled the papal states as if it was still the middle ages, complete with an inquisition. When the people finally revolted and Pius lost all the Papal States to the unification of Italy, (except for present day Vatican City) he imprisioned himself inside the Vatican and called the First Vatican Council to have himself declared "infallible."

NO THAT"S BUSH IN A NUTSHELL!!!

Pick a fight with reality.

Refuse to make adjustments.

Lose catastrophically.

Refuse to admit defeat.

Surround yourself with yes men and incompetents.

That's the true Bush doctrine!
 

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To play the devil's advocate:

What if Iraq wasn't an issue? What if there were no terrorist bombings?

Would Mr Bush have made a good president under better circumstances? I have to ask if the difficulties of his era have shaped his (difficult?) choices?
 

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I think the circumstances have definately resulted in him being a failure. He was probably in over his intellectual head to begin with, but damn the problems he has faced have been very difficult to manage effectively. The biggest issue for him has been his lack of self-control and reflection. This self-edification has resulted unbelieveably bad decision making.

If he had never had the public's complete confidence (which he certainly didn't following his first election), then he probably would never have had the chance to screw up so badly.

He has proven time and time again that he is his own worst enemy, and that his administration lacks even the basic ability to gauge the winds of popular opinion. Remember he was still actively voicing his support for Rumsfield the day before the November elections! He clearly had no clue what the general opinion was of the war.

As sad at it is - he has no one to blame but himself.
 

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To play the devil's advocate:

What if Iraq wasn't an issue? What if there were no terrorist bombings?

Would Mr Bush have made a good president under better circumstances? I have to ask if the difficulties of his era have shaped his (difficult?) choices?


We were all alive for his first eight months in office, right? He went on vacation as I recall.

He would have been completely useless, but just not as harmful had he not had an opportunity to wage a war. I think history will recall him extremely unkindly. Wait for all the "revelations" to come out about who he really was and what he was doing in office once he's out.:rolleyes:
 

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We were all alive for his first eight months in office, right? He went on vacation as I recall.

He would have been completely useless, but just not as harmful had he not had an opportunity to wage a war. I think history will recall him extremely unkindly. Wait for all the "revelations" to come out about who he really was and what he was doing in office once he's out.:rolleyes:


When Bush was first elected someone in Texas (maybe Ann Richards?) called him a 'pole turtle'.

Sometimes yer driving down a country road and ya see a turtle stuck on top of a fence post waving his little arms and legs around. The poor thing has no idea how he got there, and no idea what to do.
 

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Some say he's the worst president in modern times, some say he's the worst president ever.

I personally think he's transcended the category: he no longer compares with other presidents, he can only be compared with crowned heads of Europe and emperors of Rome. In both cases the comparison should be with the most decadent examples.

Caligula who made a horse a senator and had himself declared all the gods of the pantheon. Nero who allegedly instigated the fire of Rome and then blamed a strange, new cultish offshoot of judaism. Ludwig of Bavaria who bankrupted the kingdom building Neuschwanstein (the castle that Disneyland recreates), King George III whose madness Alan Bennett dramatized so brilliantly, Czar Peter III who liked to play with toy soldiers, had a "thing" for Frederick the Great of Prussia (who Russia was a war with), and upon becoming Czar, unilaterally gave back all conquered territory of Prussia and made his honor guard dress in Prussian uniforms.

My personal favorite is Pope Pius IX, the last pope to govern the papal states in what's now central and northern Italy. He issued a "Syllabus of errors" declaring freedom of religion and popular sovereignty as heresies--and public lighting and rail transport as dangerous innovation. He ruled the papal states as if it was still the middle ages, complete with an inquisition. When the people finally revolted and Pius lost all the Papal States to the unification of Italy, (except for present day Vatican City) he imprisioned himself inside the Vatican and called the First Vatican Council to have himself declared "infallible."

NO THAT"S BUSH IN A NUTSHELL!!!

Pick a fight with reality.

Refuse to make adjustments.

Lose catastrophically.

Refuse to admit defeat.

Surround yourself with yes men and incompetents.

That's the true Bush doctrine!

Your history is much mythology.

Ludwig II overspent the privy purse (his personal income)with his building, he did not have any negative impact on the kingdom's finances, rather the opposite. It was also a time of continuous rising prosperity. He did what he could to avoid wars, and did no one any harm. Absolutely not a tyrant. (and a favorite of mine)
Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ludwig_II

George III was a very decent person, he made some major mistakes in his early years as king, but became liked and respected in his middle ones.

Pio Nono started out as a liberal reformer, he finished up the opposite.
 

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When Bush was first elected someone in Texas (maybe Ann Richards?) called him a 'pole turtle'.

Sometimes yer driving down a country road and ya see a turtle stuck on top of a fence post waving his little arms and legs around. The poor thing has no idea how he got there, and no idea what to do.

I'll never forget the deer-in-the-headlights look on his face during the infamous seven minutes he sat dawdling over a child's book while the United States was undergoing the most savage attack since Pearl Harbor.

The man is unfit for the office he holds.
 

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You people who compare Bush to Hitler need to step away from the crack pipe and rejoin the world of reality.

I tend to agree here. Hitler gets dragged into too many debates as a comparison point. Bush is no Hitler. Neither was Saddam. Saddam didn't have the economic/military clout to become a Hitler, even if he might have been as evil. Bush hasn't displayed a lack of morals or evil on the scale of Hitler, and his crimes don't compare with Hitler's.

That said, Hitler didn't start gassing Jews the day he was elected. Nor did he invade Poland in 1933. One small step at a time, he edged his way into dictatorship, militarism, expansionism, and genocide. And each incremental step was a relatively minor change to the previous status quo, leaving his opponents with nothing concrete to use as a rallying point against him - until it was too late, of course.

That's what makes things like extraordinary rendition, Guantanamo, the 9/11 inconsistencies, the Patriot Act, the invasion of Iraq, etc., somewhat worrisome. The blueprint is out there. That doesn't mean Bush will become a Hitler - he certainly doesn't seem to have either the drive or vision that Hitler did, and I optimistically assume he doesn't have the malice that Hitler had. But he should be watched carefully and the anti-constitutional, unilateralist aggressions of his administration checked where possible. Just in case. :cool:
 

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I've said it once, I'll say it again...

The problem with this country is our neighbors, our co-workers, our aquaintences, our family members, our loved ones... you, me... EVERYBODY.

Fuck Bush, he's meaningless, fuck the Republicans and the industrial-military complex, they are meaningless too...

There will always be croccodiles in the river, that's where they live...

But since when did we walk up foolheartedly and dangle our children over the riverbank as croc food?

The average American is a hateful, resource-hog, with no thoughts beyond their jobs, family, leisure and love life. Big, pink fuckers driving SUV's, listening to fucking Daughtry on their ridiculous sound systems.

They care NOTHING for anyone but those in their small circles...

They are HIGHLY prone to propaganda and the so called "liberal" media like FOX, Cox communications, and ClearChannel.

They can EASILY be whipped up into lynch mobs...

They are VIOLENT as HELL...


So...

Have another beer America, Have another bump of coke, buy another SUV, turn on the local news and zombify, buy another Nickelback album, go watch SAW 15 at the theater, play your fucking mind numbing video games and just... GO INTO THY DEEP SLEEP OF NEO-FASCISM you stupid fucking cunts!!!!!!!
 

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I've read into Mr Bush's re-election. I understand eggs were thrown and there was a general aura of unhappyness?

Maybe America should have enough people that care? I know a lot of you do, but not enough of you.

Inaction and lazyness leads to facism. (go on, flame me)
No flames here, I've been not-so-gently urging an end to the inaction and laziness. I'm usually either ignored or called names by certain neo-cons.
 

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I've said it once, I'll say it again...

The problem with this country is our neighbors, our co-workers, our
The average American is a hateful, resource-hog, with no thoughts beyond their jobs, family, leisure and love life. Big, pink fuckers driving SUV's, listening to fucking Daughtry on their ridiculous sound systems.

They care NOTHING for anyone but those in their small circles...


Fairly strongly stated, but the essence of your opinion is right on - it explains how the Bush administration's numerous atrocities have been perpetuated over the past 7 years. I regard America's attitude as a remant of the 80s Reagan era where we didn't give a damn about anybody else. That attitude is the undoing of this country.
What frightens me is that I can easily see the USA becoming a 3rd world country, socially, where the middle-class is eroded to a fraction of its current size.
 

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Along with 77.9% of others on this site, I strongly disapprove of President George Bush. He is one of the worst presidents ever, and he is keeping our troops in Iraq to get killed off for what exactly? Oil?