Pretty and fake or ugly and natural?

What type of girl do you prefer?

  • Fake and hot

    Votes: 13 23.2%
  • "average" but real

    Votes: 32 57.1%
  • I'd fuck em either way

    Votes: 11 19.6%

  • Total voters
    56
  • Poll closed .

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Personally I hate the clothing industry and would prefer that women wore nothing at all
:tongue: I feel the same way about men.

Way to go wldhoney, your post is spot on! :smile: I never leave the house without mascara and lipstick or lip gloss.

I don't know if I can completely agree with you. If it's the woman's choice and not the man's, then men's magazines would have a completely different look. But since men's magazines are mostly edited and photographed by men, and they are the ones who choose the look and the clothes, then the message being sent is that it's what men want.

Not even the most beautiful women in the world, models and celebrities, pose without makeup and clothing.And when you go to a bar, it's generally going to be the one who has the makeup perfect, the hair done, the sexy clothes that is getting the attention. Of course it is. That's because 99.9% of men are visually stimulated.

It's a mixed message. Men want you to look like a model, but they want it to be "natural". Even models don't look like a model when they wake up in the morning. Don't I know it!

Clothes, makeup, hair....it's all dictated by society and the response one gets from others.

Even men are falling under the pressure now. The metrosexual look, for example. Where they buy their clothes, what brand, their watch, who does their hair, what hair products they use. There a skin care and face cream lines just for men. Magazines with men dressed in designer clothes with a six pack underneath. Even so, they can get away with using just shampoo in their hair. If I don't run conditioner thru mine and let it sit while I finish my shower, then rinse,etc., my hair is going to be a bitch to comb, and dry, and frizzy. But believe me, any man I have been involved with would have a heart attack if I even thought of getting it cut off.

Again, I will go to the grocery store and out to lunch without makeup. I'll even wear my glasses and throw my hair up and feel just fine. But I can guarantee that if I was standing there casual vs. dressed up to go out, I'm going to get the most response to the dressed up me from the very same guys who state they love the "all natural" look.
 

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Hmmmm, reading these replies makes me wonder - If guys prefer the natural look why then does every single Miss America Pagent contestant, straight woman out on the town, Playboy centerfold, and Vogue model wear lots of makeup?

Because none of these distinctions are conferred based on the opinions of real men. I'll guarantee you that the girls competing for Miss America did not come up through the pageant ranks being judged by panels of regular guys. More than likely, they've been judged by former pageant contestants/winners/wannabes based on completely different criteria than you or I would use. This, of course, ignores the notion that these pageants are ostensibly being decided based on factors other than appearance. :rolleyes:

I don't ever recall the editors at Playboy or any other lad rag calling me up for my input on the ideal centerfold for the upcoming issue. In fact, unless my memory fails me, the centerfold decision at PEI rests in the voice of but ONE man...one who at this point has lost all touch with objective reality as it relates to feminine pulchritude.

I won't even touch the world of fashion rags, except to point out the immediate similarity: nobody at any of those has consulted with me or any of my contemporaries on what makes women appear beautiful prior to press time.

As for straight women out on the town...well, now that's not a fair statement, because they run the gamut. Take a walk though downtown Austin on a weekend night, and I assure you, you'll see all kinds.
 

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Some of the responses in this thread are pretty unbelievable. I'm well aware that women come in all shapes, sizes, and have many different looks, but, despite what the media is trying to force down our throats as what should be judged as attractive, the female form in general is exquisite.

Makeup shouldn't be used to cover up anything, if it's applied well it enhances and accentuates - this doesn't necessarily make someone look any "better" though. Waking up in bed or stepping out of the shower are probably the times when a woman looks most beautiful, regardless of individual features.
 

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I don't know if I can completely agree with you. If it's the woman's choice and not the man's, then men's magazines would have a completely different look. But since men's magazines are mostly edited and photographed by men, and they are the ones who choose the look and the clothes, then the message being sent is that it's what men want.

Yes, they are largely (but not exclusively by any means) male driven, and maybe they would be different, though how different is hard to say. I suspect there is likely little money in presenting women as they actually are. Until men (and women) in general are willing to accept women as they really are, as opposed to how they think they should be I don't see that changing, nor women relinquishing that position of power.

In this respect, I often think women are their own worst enemy. Being co-conspirators in the perpetuation of this fallacy that such an unattainable ideal does in fact exist they must bear some responsibility. Increasingly I think that is happening but it's still too seldom reflected in the media and the pages of the fashion/girlie press. The cult of celebrity still has legs. That's fine, we all need to pay the bills but it's harder then for us all to be taken seriously when we* complain about being 'exploited' while willingly participating in such 'exploitation'.

* we in a collective sense - those who swallow the media images are also being exploited, imo.

The reasons behind that are worthy of exploration, I think that deserves a thread of it's own but I know from discussions with people, male and female in the industry that it's a situation that is far from a resolution. There is no real blame attached, while women continue to pander to the superficial desires of men to appear a certain way, men will continue to demand they do so and vice versa. The real danger comes when people confuse such abstractions with reality. We can read about the consequences of that in the tabloids every day.

....when you go to a bar, it's generally going to be the one who has the makeup perfect, the hair done, the sexy clothes that is getting the attention.

In general terms, I agree, but I'm unconvinced that is always because that's what men actually want, it's just what they think (or have been conditioned to think) they want.

It's a mixed message. Men want you to look like a model, but they want it to be "natural". Even models don't look like a model when they wake up in the morning.

Clothes, makeup, hair....it's all dictated by society and the response one gets from others.

Yes, of course but in fairness mixed messages are a two way street, women are no less 'guilty' of duplicity and having often irreconcilable conflicts in what they demand from men. Again I think that is often driven by expectations imposed on them by society, of which they are members. As I said earlier what men say they want is not always, or even seldom what they really want; men may want to date Naomi Campbell but they want to marry the girl next door. Naturally each of those women needs to have the characterics of each other, depending on the situation.

Again, I will go to the grocery store and out to lunch without makeup. I'll even wear my glasses and throw my hair up and feel just fine. But I can guarantee that if I was standing there casual vs. dressed up to go out, I'm going to get the most response to the dressed up me from the very same guys who state they love the "all natural" look.

In that respect, I'm more likely to 'jump' the other way when I see a woman who has apparently constructed such an image - the intention of which is, or is perceived to be the garnering of such attention, simply because it's false - even though, in reality it may not be.:rolleyes:

Put another way, if one is uncomfortable in one's own skin, it matters little how pretty that skin is. Unfortunately, many men will settle for the skin, a bigger injustice being that too many women are willing to let them.

Personally, I find a genuinely attractive woman (of course attractiveness has many levels - but here I'm meaning the visual sense) in everyday clothes - jeans and an old jumper for example far far more appealing than the same (or even a more attractive) woman dressed up to the nines. Once I know her, naturally my perception changes because there is a context within which to place the way she looks.

I'd like to think that more men these days are able to look behind the wrapping, after all, it's what's inside that we actually want, isn't it?? Of course most men here will voice those opinions that are 'expected' of them, many will mean them, but out in there 'in the field' I suspect they would still raise a few eyebrows. That's the tricky part of course, because while we may say we hate the superficial, at first glance it's all we see.

Therein lies the underlying issue behind this thread.

I'm seldom at my most introspective on a Sunday morning so I'll park the rest for now but would say, In essence, I believe true beauty requires no enhancement, but then I'm strangely freakish in some respects, or so I've been told.:rolleyes: