pretty women the most insecure?

[B_capslock]

Originally Posted by hotmilf

Public apology:

I would like to publically apologize to njqt466. I took her to task (in this thread) for something that was not my business.

She advised me to "check before I wreck" -- and so I did. I read her posts for the last 24 hours, and I found I was very wrong in my estimation of her.

I am overly sensitive to certain kinds of postings, but I am going to henceforth practise what I preach: tolerance.

So I apologize, njqt. I had you wrong.



Apology accepted. I too am sensitive to certain kinds of postings. I guess I should take you off ignore now. :tongue: :biggrin1:

It should also be noted that CAPSLOCK and I have also buried the hatchet. :smile:

of course you know.. when she says hatchet, its her nickname for my engorged....

OK... I KEED I KEED...

XOXO...

see the sexes can get along.. for like 5 mins or so....:biggrin1:

 

[Not_Punny]

Thanks, njqt, you're a trooper. :wink:

 

[SpoiledPrincess]

Not all pretty women are insecure, however, it's likely that the ones who feel their only asset is a pretty face would be insecure, when someone feels that they have a lack of personality and a lack of brains how could they not feel insecure?

 

[36DD]

Yes, we are insecure! Growing up my mom wanted me to learn that looks were superficial, so education was very much stressed in my family (BTW, everyone is very good-looking, very educated and accomplished...doctorates...master's). As a result of that I never heard from my mom that I was pretty, so when I heard it from others it always meant a lot to me and I sought the attention that being pretty offered me...it was already a given I would succeed due to my education and the monatary status in which I was raised. I've always turned heads, and have found I have had certain opportunities and advantages because of the way I look, but now that I am getting older I am worried those doors will one day soon close to me, and I must admit it makes me a little nervous.
Scared little boy said women who aren't a size 0 are often insecure but my insecurity now is not on my weight because I am not one of those women who would ever in a million years want to be a small size...men have always complimented me on my voluptuous shape...my fear now is that I will be considered old by a society which values youth. I think that's really sad because as we get older, we really do get better and are capable or offering so much more because we can accept ourselves as we are.

 

[JMeister]

Yes, we are insecure! Growing up my mom wanted me to learn that looks were superficial, so education was very much stressed in my family (BTW, everyone is very good-looking, very educated and accomplished...doctorates...master's). As a result of that I never heard from my mom that I was pretty, so when I heard it from others it always meant a lot to me and I sought the attention that being pretty offered me...it was already a given I would succeed due to my education and the monatary status in which I was raised. I've always turned heads, and have found I have had certain opportunities and advantages because of the way I look, but now that I am getting older I am worried those doors will one day soon close to me, and I must admit it makes me a little nervous.
Scared little boy said women who aren't a size 0 are often insecure but my insecurity now is not on my weight because I am not one of those women who would ever in a million years want to be a small size...men have always complimented me on my voluptuous shape...my fear now is that I will be considered old by a society which values youth. I think that's really sad because as we get older, we really do get better and are capable or offering so much more because we can accept ourselves as we are.

Can you enlighten us? What doors would be closed to women with a doctorate degree because they don't look 20 years old anymore?

 

[36DD]

Can you enlighten us? What doors would be closed to women with a doctorate degree because they don't look 20 years old anymore?

A lot of job positions are not offered to someone who is older, sad, but true...I'm older but I have only in the last few years gone back to school and received my degree. It was very difficult starting at my age in an entry-level position, and some companies worried I would be bored, and some think I should have more experience behind me by this stage in my life (I was a stay-at-home mom raising my kids). Really though, the closed doors to which I was referring were more in the line of modeling swim-suits...I know they wouldn't take me anymore being in my 40's...I'd have to be a celebrity first!

 

[naughty]

Can you enlighten us? What doors would be closed to women with a doctorate degree because they don't look 20 years old anymore?

Oh J Meister,

think about how dismissive we become with older women and men. It usually isnt something that happens all at once it perniciously sneaks up on one . Look at this board. I find it fascinating watching how various women respond to the aging process. There are some who have had much success in the social side of their lives and have reached and passed certain milestones set up by society for validation ( marriage, children, etc) Then there are others for whom this has not happened. For those who have been able to more successfully navigate their ship through external influences it seems they are less likely to need external validation. But for one who has felt the power of beauty and prestige (often the two are tied together) its loss and the subsequent loss of corresponding power and control over some parts of one's destiny can be felt strongly. Women as a whole have been conditioned to gain one of their deepest senses of self esteem by their interpersonal interactions. When capricious elements such as changes in one's physical beauty come into play if there are not solid networks of friends and more intimate relationships it can be devastating to some. Beauty is a currency that many have traded for the semblance of love and if this currency is lost and one does not have other attributes to compensate this loss often there is greater loss.

 

[36DD]

Oh J Meister,

think about how dismissive we become with older women and men. It usually isnt something that happens all at once it perniciously sneaks up on one . Look at this board. I find it fascinating watching how various women respond to the aging process. There are some who have had much success in the social side of their lives and have reached and passed certain milestones set up by society for validation ( marriage, children, etc) Then there are others for whom this has not happened. For those who have been able to more successfully navigate their ship through external influences it seems they are less likely to need external validation. But for one who has felt the power of beauty and prestige (often the two are tied together) its loss and the subsequent loss of corresponding power and control over some parts of one's destiny can be felt strongly. Women as a whole have been conditioned to gain one of their deepest senses of self esteem by their interpersonal interactions. When capricious elements such as changes in one's physical beauty come into play if there are not solid networks of friends and more intimate relationships it can be devastating to some. Beauty is a currency that many have traded for the semblance of love and if this currency is lost and one does not have other attributes to compensate this loss often there is greater loss.

I don't think anyone could say that better! Thank you.

 

[JMeister]

Oh J Meister,

think about how dismissive we become with older women and men. It usually isnt something that happens all at once it perniciously sneaks up on one . Look at this board. I find it fascinating watching how various women respond to the aging process. There are some who have had much success in the social side of their lives and have reached and passed certain milestones set up by society for validation ( marriage, children, etc) Then there are others for whom this has not happened. For those who have been able to more successfully navigate their ship through external influences it seems they are less likely to need external validation. But for one who has felt the power of beauty and prestige (often the two are tied together) its loss and the subsequent loss of corresponding power and control over some parts of one's destiny can be felt strongly. Women as a whole have been conditioned to gain one of their deepest senses of self esteem by their interpersonal interactions. When capricious elements such as changes in one's physical beauty come into play if there are not solid networks of friends and more intimate relationships it can be devastating to some. Beauty is a currency that many have traded for the semblance of love and if this currency is lost and one does not have other attributes to compensate this loss often there is greater loss.

Extremely well put. Personally I have little sympathy for those who use beauty as a currency. It's a rare currency to have. If one is too naive to understand until they have it no longer, oh well.

As far a being a swimsuit model at 40, there are plenty of swimsuit modelling jobs out there for 40 year old, just don't expect them to be with Wicked Weasel.

 

[B_capslock]

I think in the end, you have to be more than the sum of you parts. You need to have proper perspective in life. Beauty doesn't last, at least not in its most superficial state, and to depend on it as currency seems foolhearted. I see it here in LA all the time, women hitting that wall having made no friends or relationships that were heartfelt. When they were young, they were unapproachable.... and very flippant toward anything serious. Now what do they have? Their plastic surgons and a ticking clock....

Look at the Supermodel Paulina Poriskova... one of the biggest supermodels of our time. She retired, started a family, and now writes books. She has aged so gracefully and with dignity, that to me she is just stunning. Her realistic outlook, and her almost self depricating humor means that she's in control. I think women of all shapes and sizes can learn from her....

YouTube - Paulina Porizkova

 

[B_capslock]

There I was, surfing porn, looking to engage the little head, and here I find something for the big head!!!

http://www.sachikomclean.com/public/english/whatilookforinmen.html

the way she perceives western culture andhow it affects men and women.. I like her breakdown.. especially this part at the bottom of her FAQ..

3) On the other hand, the good men who have a hard time getting women in general quite often eventually find just one good (or even great) woman and settle down happily. Why? Because these men are too honest and genuine to know how to 'sweet talk' and play the 'dating game'. Yet being honest and genuine is of fundamental importance in discovering who's truly right for you, and for establishing and maintaining a successful long-term relationship. Unfortunately, however, very few women in today's society are able to fully appreciate these traits (at least not until they have suffered at the hands of irresponsible men), thanks to the messages sent to them by the modern western media. Indeed, this modern western women's bullshit can make it so difficult for nice men to find a partner that some of them are forced to turn to other men - then these same women complain about why all the nicest men are gay! But if a good man is patient enough he will usually eventually find a woman who appreciates him, and together they can "live happily ever after".

I should point out that I am not trying to say that being popular will definitely lead to negative consequences, or that being unwanted is positive. Indeed, I myself have dated many different men in the past, but I have always tried to be honest and genuine about my intentions and treat them with the respect they deserve. All I am trying to say is that, regardless of whether a person is popular or not, the key to a happy, healthy relationship remains the same. Know who you really are, know what you really want, and don't be afraid to express yourself openly and honestly, no matter what your family, the media or anybody else might tell you.

I should also point out that much of the above applies to women as well as men!


From one of your own sistas.. Wise girl!!! :You_Rock_Emoticon:

 

[naughty]

Capslock,

I just went to your link and found a blog by a young woman from an eastern culture. I do not begin to tell anyone in another culture how they should interact with someone of the opposite sex in there particular milieu because I am not privy to all of the information. I didnt really see any helpful hints being presented. I saw a woman who seems to be looking for a partner herself, who in creating distance between herself and the perceived behaviors of Western women is attempting to boost her worth on the marriage market. I would hardly call that a sister.

There I was, surfing porn, looking to engage the little head, and here I find something for the big head!!!

Sachiko McLean - What I Look For In Men

the way she perceives western culture andhow it affects men and women.. I like her breakdown.. especially this part at the bottom of her FAQ..

3) On the other hand, the good men who have a hard time getting women in general quite often eventually find just one good (or even great) woman and settle down happily. Why? Because these men are too honest and genuine to know how to 'sweet talk' and play the 'dating game'. Yet being honest and genuine is of fundamental importance in discovering who's truly right for you, and for establishing and maintaining a successful long-term relationship. Unfortunately, however, very few women in today's society are able to fully appreciate these traits (at least not until they have suffered at the hands of irresponsible men), thanks to the messages sent to them by the modern western media. Indeed, this modern western women's bullshit can make it so difficult for nice men to find a partner that some of them are forced to turn to other men - then these same women complain about why all the nicest men are gay! But if a good man is patient enough he will usually eventually find a woman who appreciates him, and together they can "live happily ever after".

I should point out that I am not trying to say that being popular will definitely lead to negative consequences, or that being unwanted is positive. Indeed, I myself have dated many different men in the past, but I have always tried to be honest and genuine about my intentions and treat them with the respect they deserve. All I am trying to say is that, regardless of whether a person is popular or not, the key to a happy, healthy relationship remains the same. Know who you really are, know what you really want, and don't be afraid to express yourself openly and honestly, no matter what your family, the media or anybody else might tell you.

I should also point out that much of the above applies to women as well as men!


From one of your own sistas.. Wise girl!!! :You_Rock_Emoticon:

 

[lafever]

Yes, i believe the majority of beautifull woman are insicure, when you ignore them they want to know why, the more you run from them the more they want you, they want to make sure theres nothing wrong with themselves. When i ignore a beautifull woman they usually ask me wether i`m married, gay, or stupid, they need the attention but yet don`t really want it, when their not happy they seek aproval from strangers. Sometimes they`ll get with someone who gives them too much attention wich is a big turn off, if they wanted a pet they would go shopping for that cute little puppy in the window. What they really want is someone who loves them beyond their beauty. They want that soul connection witch makes them feel whole, that there not alone in a world of deception. Someone they know they trust because they feel it. The kind of man there looking for is the one thats happy no matter what and doesn`t say to them trust me. Their leaders not followere so they look for men who are leaders too which is hard to find, when a woman is with a man that is right for them there whole because their significant other fullfills their wants and needs and when there with the wrong person it shows in there behavior, sometimes they`ll set`ll with someone who worships the ground they walk on, this is because of the fear of abandonment, they might not care about their lover at all, they might even treat them like shit, because in their minds if you dont love someone they cant hurt you, you can sense their emptyness, thus throwing them back into there insecurity, they start questioning themselves wether or not they`re living the way they would want to live or living to make someone else happy while their misserable, wich is a long dark highway. How do i know all this, i`ve been with beautifull woman all my life, its the price i pay for being a leader in all i do. Its hard when you first get with a beautifull woman and they have years of hurt and let downs, sometimes they make it to that happy place and sometimes their so hurt it takes years to heal the wounds. Scars heal, but if you don`t take care of them they stay infected, once they heal there always there to remind you of how it was, not how it is, because when they get to that happy place the healed scars are what gives them their strength when before they were unhealed wounds that made them want to forget.

lafever

 

[rich-9.8]

Well, I'm insecure. Does that mean I'm pretty?

No, it means you're hot and just fishing for compliments :wink:

 

[naughty]

Yes, i believe the majority of beautifull woman are insicure, when you ignore them they want to know why, the more you run from them the more they want you, they want to make sure theres nothing wrong with themselves. When i ignore a beautifull woman they usually ask me wether i`m married, gay, or stupid, they need the attention but yet don`t really want it, when their not happy they seek aproval from strangers. Sometimes they`ll get with someone who gives them too much attention wich is a big turn off, if they wanted a pet they would go shopping for that cute little puppy in the window. What they really want is someone who loves them beyond their beauty. They want that soul connection witch makes them feel whole, that there not alone in a world of deception. Someone they know they trust because they feel it. The kind of man there looking for is the one thats happy no matter what and doesn`t say to them trust me. Their leaders not followere so they look for men who are leaders too which is hard to find, when a woman is with a man that is right for them there whole because their significant other fullfills their wants and needs and when there with the wrong person it shows in there behavior, sometimes they`ll set`ll with someone who worships the ground they walk on, this is because of the fear of abandonment, they might not care about their lover at all, they might even treat them like shit, because in their minds if you dont love someone they cant hurt you, you can sense their emptyness, thus throwing them back into there insecurity, they start questioning themselves wether or not they`re living the way they would want to live or living to make someone else happy while their misserable, wich is a long dark highway. How do i know all this, i`ve been with beautifull woman all my life, its the price i pay for being a leader in all i do. Its hard when you first get with a beautifull woman and they have years of hurt and let downs, sometimes they make it to that happy place and sometimes their so hurt it takes years to heal the wounds. Scars heal, but if you don`t take care of them they stay infected, once they heal there always there to remind you of how it was, not how it is, because when they get to that happy place the healed scars are what gives them their strength when before they were unhealed wounds that made them want to forget.

lafever

Wonderful analysis. But dont you think that happens with anyone, male or female? Most of us want someone to see the inside and not dismiss or run after us because of the outside. Beauty fades. I think though that beautiful people are often the recipient of and lightning rod for others insecurities. They draw individuals who are attracted to their exterior and have probably done so all their lives. So they have learned to gauge their worth as well as the worth of others by that measuring mechanism unless taught otherwise. They are fully aware of how others are treated that are not considered attractive and often they scramble to extend this undeserved gift as long as possible. They are also the recipient of envy and possessiveness. Others who seek to possess them as a symbol of their own power or destroy them because they feel they could never stand to live in the reflected glory of beauty. I dont think that beautiful men or women are that much different from most others except that they are often placed on the world's stage much earlier with or without the coping skills because beauty like it or not has been made to be the holy grail for so many cultures.

 

[lafever]

They draw individuals who are attracted to their exterior and have probably done so all their lives. So they have learned to gauge their worth as well as the worth of others by that measuring mechanism unless taught otherwise. They are fully aware of how others are treated that are not considered attractive and often they scramble to extend this undeserved gift as long as possible.

You seem to know me well, yes i have always stood out in a crowd, if theres another like me i home in on them without thinking, its like i can feel others, i used to think it was a curse, once i used my tallents to hurt, having been hurt myself i sought revenge, i learned that all i was doing was hurting myself and creating scares that might never heal, everything changed when i sought out a better life, today i now how fragile people are and how we can hurt people wich in return changes their lives, when you know you have the gift then you are accountable for the damages, ying yang, right? What comes around eventually goes around, sometimes in ways you never imagined. So when you have the gift you can spot it as well, wich is sometimes scary, today i use my talents to be kind, help others, clean house, and protect those i love. I must also say that having a child makes you think too, having a 13 year old daughter myself i want her to live in a better world. Also, losing a loved one changes oneself, even though my wife has passed she still is a part of me, she adds to my spirit the life we had wich was one of great passion and an abundance of love, these things do not go away they enhance oneself in the here and now.

lafever

 

[Osiris]

Well, I'm insecure. Does that mean I'm pretty?

OK, Veronica. Today's phrase is Gross Understatement.

YOU ARE FLIPPING GORGEOUS!!

Back on topic... *tears eyes away from Veronica's pic* Where was I? OH YEAH!!

A lot of it I'm sure has to do with the media. Everything is geared toward women 25 and under in ads and the like. I'm sorry, but women forget that by 30, not only are they hot, they are knowledgable and know how to use said knowledge. I've been with women in their mid 20's and in their mid 40's. All were hot, but the older women (over 27) were by far the hottest and the most fun.

Tell your cousin and her friend to stop worrying about the number, they are just fine.

Now excuse me while I go back to marvelling at Veronica's amzing beauty. :biggrin1:

 

[lafever]

Is it just me or have you noticed a role reversal in society, that women are the new men. And with it comes all the stress.

 

[MASSIVEPKGO_CHUCK]

Well, I'm insecure. Does that mean I'm pretty?

No, Veronica, you are absolutely red hot smokin' beautiful. You've nothing to be insecure about.

 

[BurningVenus]

Capslock,

I just went to your link and found a blog by a young woman from an eastern culture. I do not begin to tell anyone in another culture how they should interact with someone of the opposite sex in there particular milieu because I am not privy to all of the information. I didnt really see any helpful hints being presented. I saw a woman who seems to be looking for a partner herself, who in creating distance between herself and the perceived behaviors of Western women is attempting to boost her worth on the marriage market. I would hardly call that a sister.

Quote:
Originally Posted by capslock

There I was, surfing porn, looking to engage the little head, and here I find something for the big head!!!

Sachiko McLean - What I Look For In Men

the way she perceives western culture andhow it affects men and women.. I like her breakdown.. especially this part at the bottom of her FAQ..

3) On the other hand, the good men who have a hard time getting women in general quite often eventually find just one good (or even great) woman and settle down happily. Why? Because these men are too honest and genuine to know how to 'sweet talk' and play the 'dating game'. Yet being honest and genuine is of fundamental importance in discovering who's truly right for you, and for establishing and maintaining a successful long-term relationship. Unfortunately, however, very few women in today's society are able to fully appreciate these traits (at least not until they have suffered at the hands of irresponsible men), thanks to the messages sent to them by the modern western media. Indeed, this modern western women's bullshit can make it so difficult for nice men to find a partner that some of them are forced to turn to other men - then these same women complain about why all the nicest men are gay! But if a good man is patient enough he will usually eventually find a woman who appreciates him, and together they can "live happily ever after".

I should point out that I am not trying to say that being popular will definitely lead to negative consequences, or that being unwanted is positive. Indeed, I myself have dated many different men in the past, but I have always tried to be honest and genuine about my intentions and treat them with the respect they deserve. All I am trying to say is that, regardless of whether a person is popular or not, the key to a happy, healthy relationship remains the same. Know who you really are, know what you really want, and don't be afraid to express yourself openly and honestly, no matter what your family, the media or anybody else might tell you.

I should also point out that much of the above applies to women as well as men!



From one of your own sistas.. Wise girl!!! :You_Rock_Emoticon:



Sachiko McLean - What I Look For In Men


She appears to be a professional companion, who for $19.995 a monh, will tell you anything you want to hear. lol