Principal Quits Over GBLT/Straight Alliance in School

[DC_DEEP]

Dunno about the others, but I never said I respected him for it. I didn't say he doesn't have an anti-gay agenda either. I said I respected his right to live his life according to his religious beliefs.

I think a lot of people around here just want to play the victim.

Well, if my quote didn't apply to you, then guess what? It didn't apply to you. Speaking of playing victim...

 

[B_jacknapier]

I challenge you to find two people who expressed the opinion that you claim many 'apologists' did.

 

[D_Harry_Crax]

The principal can have whatever religious beliefs he wants, as long as he leaves them at home when he's running a public high school. I respect him that he's willing to resign rather than be a hypocrite, unlike--for example--apparently hundreds or thousands of Bush administration officials who disagreed on Iraq or any number of other things but would rather keep their jobs than their principles. I also say good riddance to the principal at the same time.

 

[Bbucko]

Anyone know what kind of source this WorldNetDaily that published the article is?

Considering that they chose to use the phrase "promote homosexuality" in the headline, sounds like it's a Christian propaganda organ

I really am surprised that a savvy group like yourselves haven't heard of WND.

It's the last refuge of internet message board trolls who start flame-war threads about all things "Christian" or "conservative". They (WND) are an angry, bitter bunch of bigots intent on not just preserving a certain way of life, but actively denouncing society's "evils" which seemingly all comprise:

*Homosexuals
*Feminists
*Atheists
*Muslims
*Public schools
*Pornography

But they are "inclusive" enough to regularly publish scornful screeds on anything else they define as contrary to "Judeo-Christian values".

The fact that CNN even used them as a source is a black mark against them. Would they cite a white supremacist/KKK website when reporting on a racial issue?

 

[DC_DEEP]

I challenge you to find two people who expressed the opinion that you claim many 'apologists' did.

Damned computer just cancelled everything I had written in my nearly-finished post!

You are a twicky wabbit, jacknapier. I could have sworn I saw more than one, but going back through the posts with my glazed-over eyes, this is all I found:

Don't be surprised if you get called a homophobe; the word is used very loosely around here.

The principal cannot accept this club, so he has resigned, and will be on his way in a year. I don't believe he ever tried to shut down the alliance. You have to give him a little credit for not making a fuss or trying to sue the school with some frivolous lawsuit. It's not like he's Fred Phelps.

Dunno about the others, but I never said I respected him for it. I didn't say he doesn't have an anti-gay agenda either. I said I respected his right to live his life according to his religious beliefs.

I think a lot of people around here just want to play the victim.

The red-highlighted portion answers the apologist question. The blue-highlighted portion answers the "playing-the-victim" comment.

I know you didn't say you respected him, just that you understood. But back to the playing-the-victim... isn't that precisely what he did? It seems that way to me. As has been stated ad nauseum in this thread, "leaving for personal reasons" should have been sufficient. However, he elaborated, since he wanted to play the poor-victimized-by-all-those-awful-homosexual-agenda-pushing-liberals-so-now-I'm-a-martyr role. What other reason could there possibly be for such an explicit, drama-laden resignation?

 

[B_jacknapier]

I think he wanted to express his deeply felt disapproval with the club being in his school, which he did by 1. resigning and 2. publicly stating the reason for his resignation.

He has an anti-homosexual agenda. Just like the bible.

Yeah. It's dumb. But it is what it is.

My point about "playing the victim" is that you wanted to see hatred and homophobia in posts that contained neither.

It's endemic to this site.

 

[B_jacknapier]

YEEEEAAAAH boyeeee

 

[DC_DEEP]

My point about "playing the victim" is that you wanted to see hatred and homophobia in posts that contained neither.

It's endemic to this site.

Or just endemic, period. You see me (or us) playing the victim; I see him playing the victim. It's a matter of perspective, and neither is right or wrong.

There's no question, in my mind, about his resignation. Fully justified. But you see his explanation as, well, I'm not sure what. I see it as yanking on the heartstrings of other fundamentalists, in order that he can play the victim.

Again, I'm not saying that you are wrong or that I am right, just that we interpret his motivations differently - most likely due to our different experiences with other fundamentalists.

 

[Lex]

They are here but they're quiet; they'll probably be made fun of or called "vanilla" in a derogatory manner.

Clearly you are the main person on this board being condescending towards other people based on their orientation and sexual preferences. Sadly, you seem to be the only one who can not see this.

Here are a few examples of you being judgmental towards others:

...
You'd have to be blind to not see lifestyle in many of the members on this site, but maybe they don't represent gay men in the real world. Let's see: open relationships, jerk off buds, poppers and toilet sex encounters is just some of it.

Repeat after me: You have not right to define the confines of other people's relationships.

Repeat after me: You have not been reading closely enough of you would see a large number of straight men on here who talk about having jerk-off buddies.

Repeat after me: Some people have had sex in bathrooms. Some people have had sex in parks. Some people have had sex in the backseats of cars. You are no better or worse than someone else based on the location of your sexual encounters.

I was reading a blog the other day and was totally disgusted.

Why are you so obsessed with the way some gay men behave? Why does it bother you so? Why do you read things that you find repulsive? Why do you feel the need to make a statement of your distastes? You are the one making an issue of someone else's blog, for goodness sakes. Get a life (or a man) or both. Some people may find a teacher cruising a dick site and showing her tits to be repulsive. If they did and they moaned about it, you might even find me defending your right to flash your tits. The argument you make easily cuts both ways.

The guy is 22 for crying out loud. It would be nice if an older gay guy or someone took him under his wing, and explained to him that he doesn't have to be like that. There are other options besides cruising as "part of our culture."

Yes, I assume that all those straight boys in the bar are NEVER cruising to see who they can fuck that night. Riiight.

And what about these personal ads?

Again, judgment. Who gives a shit what you think of someone else's personal ad?

Where are the ones in relationships? I'm not talking about "partnered but play" guys?

More judgment. You repeatedly have attempted to say that only a monogamous relationship is a real one--which is false. You have not right to judge the way other adults live their relationships.

If that's not a gay "lifestyle", I'm not sure what is. I don't see many straights posting ads on here. Now you can say that there are more gays than straights here, and that may be true, but I'm just not seeing many non lifestyle gays on here

This site is about dick, so there are far more gay and bisexual members here than you would find in the general population. You may not see many ads from straight men and women on here, but there are tons on the internet. Try AdultFriendFinder, for example. I know a few straight guys on this site that have met and fucked more than a few women through this site. I guess they are "llifestyle straights" or "straights living the gay lifestyle." Do you see how ignorant that sounds?

 

[Ms.Teacher]

Clearly you are the main person on this board being condescending towards other people based on their orientation and sexual preferences. Sadly, you seem to be the only one who can not see this.

Here are a few examples of you being judgmental towards others:

Repeat after me: You have not right to define the confines of other people's relationships.

Repeat after me: You have not been reading closely enough of you would see a large number of straight men on here who talk about having jerk-off buddies.

Repeat after me: Some people have had sex in bathrooms. Some people have had sex in parks. Some people have had sex in the backseats of cars. You are no better or worse than someone else based on the location of your sexual encounters.


Why are you so obsessed with the way some gay men behave? Why does it bother you so? Why do you read things that you find repulsive? Why do you feel the need to make a statement of your distastes? You are the one making an issue of someone else's blog, for goodness sakes. Get a life (or a man) or both. Some people may find a teacher cruising a dick site and showing her tits to be repulsive. If they did and they moaned about it, you might even find me defending your right to flash your tits. The argument you make easily cuts both ways.


Yes, I assume that all those straight boys in the bar are NEVER cruising to see who they can fuck that night. Riiight.


Again, judgment. Who gives a shit what you think of someone else's personal ad?


More judgment. You repeatedly have attempted to say that only a monogamous relationship is a real one--which is false. You have not right to judge the way other adults live their relationships.


This site is about dick, so there are far more gay and bisexual members here than you would find in the general population. You may not see many ads from straight men and women on here, but there are tons on the internet. Try AdultFriendFinder, for example. I know a few straight guys on this site that have met and fucked more than a few women through this site. I guess they are "llifestyle straights" or "straights living the gay lifestyle." Do you see how ignorant that sounds?

The principal had every right to resign from his position. I think he was foolish to do it, but we don't know if there were prior issues involved and possibly that was the icing on the cake. I've heard of school nurses resigning because they didn't want to be involved in giving out condoms. I'm sure you have your limitations, and could resign from a position if you strongly disagreed on a particular issue with your employer.

Maybe I'm living in a cave, but I have never heard of people living the straight lifestyle. You can't deny that people have used the term "gay lifestyle" for quite some time. And I have seen it numerous times on this website and all over the internet.

And I was under the impression that all topics are fair game, and anyone can comment on any subject they want. Apparently you feel that I and others have no right to do that. I'm not a politician, so I guess I shouldn't be posting on any political threads. Since you are gay, maybe you could offer that 22 year old guy some guidance, and explain to him what he is perceiving as "gay culture" really isn't. After all, he did state:

"...many of us gay men know cruising (as in cruising for sex) is a part of our culture. Many of us even have a specific "meat market" that we like to hang out at and get our choice du jour. "

You must have missed my post, but an 18 year old guy met a teen girl at a party and went down on her. I advised him that a recent study revealed 1 in 4 teen girls in America have an STD. Isn't that what support is all about? You must have overlooked that topic, or maybe you just don't care what straight people do.

If you have no problem with your children reading about your sex life, then good for you. Avatars are visible to anyone not logged on to the site.

Lastly, this is a support group, and oftentimes I don't see a lot of support going on. The "S" in LPSG stands for support, and this site is more than just a penis support group. I'd hate to see a member write that he is going to jump off a bridge, and you'd either remain silent or say, "JUMP".

I'd rather be involved than remain apathetic.

 

[B_RedDude]

Lady, you are ignorant and narrow, and maybe stupid, too. Did I mention pathetic?

Did you get your teaching credential at Wal-Mart?

P.S. Do you have a penis, or are you interested in them? If not, maybe you should look for another "support" group. Group therapy, perhaps?; or even individual therapy, maybe.

Since you are gay, maybe you could offer that 22 year old guy some guidance, and explain to him what he is perceiving as "gay culture" really isn't.

Isn't that what suppor?t is all about? You must have overlooked that topic, or maybe you just don't care what straight people do.

Lastly, this is a support group, and oftentimes I don't see a lot of support going on. The "S" in LPSG stands for support, and this site is more than just a penis support group. I'd hate to see a member write that he is going to jump off a bridge, and you'd either remain silent or say, "JUMP".

 

[headbang8]

"I feel the formation of a Gay/Straight Alliance Club at Irmo High school implies that students joining the club will have chosen to or will choose to engage in sexual activity with members of the same sex, opposite sex or members of both sexes."

I feel holding a prom at Irmo High School implies that students attending will have chosen to, or will choose to engage in sexual activity with members of the opposite sex.

 

[B_jacknapier]

I feel holding a prom at Irmo High School implies that students attending will have chosen to, or will choose to engage in sexual activity with members of the opposite sex.

hahaha, true dat

 

[2322]

Seriously, do you think I don't know that homosexuals can live just like straights? The fact that you love a member of the same sex is a lifestyle difference in the opinion of many straights, though. I frankly don't care. I like fucking men and women.

Ahh, but can straights live like gays?

Can straight people go to the theater frequently, buy Liza and Madonna albums, go to art galleries, frequent trendy restaurants, love dance music, have frequent anonymous sex with multiple partners, cultivate an impeccable sense of fashion, travel on vacation to places like Provincetown, Key West, Saugatuck, Palm Springs, and march in equal rights protests?

 

[auncut10in]

Maybe I'm living in a cave, but I have never heard of people living the straight lifestyle. You can't deny that people have used the term "gay lifestyle" for quite some time. And I have seen it numerous times on this website and all over the internet.

People that are straight like to banish around the term "Gay Lifestyle". They use it to make themselves believe that being gay is nothing like being straight. Yes there are gay men that have hook up sex. But it is not a gay thing, it is a choice people make whether they are gay or straight. There is absolutely no difference. Here are a few listings off of Craigs List.

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<b>Married Man looking for a Married Women - 33</b> (downtown / civic / van ness)
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I am married, happily, I just need the sexual intimacy that I am not getting at home. I am not planning on leaving my wife but I am looking for a married female who is in the same boat.Recently she has gone out of State and She will not be back untill 2010. so that I gonna be living alone by myself for atlest 2 years.There are lots of reasons someone would want to be in bed with someone other than their spouse - I have mine and you have yours and whatever they may be is fine with me.


There are over 200 postings for today alone women seeking men and men seeking women. Married guys, married women. Single guys single women, all straight, just looking for sex. Just go to a bar sometime and you will find straight men and women cruising for sex.

So if you are going to decide that there is some kind of lifestyle that is unique to gays you are WRONG. And unless you have NEVER had sex outside of marriage, you have no right throwing stones. Your post only seem to have a problem with gays. Humm now what does that make you?

 

[CUBE]

CUBE, are you into Timecube?

As for why I can understand where the principle is coming from, well, he doesn't want sex-related clubs in the school. It's a moral stance that he feels strongly enough about that he's resigning over it.

Off topic, and not necessarily regarding this thread, why is it that liberals find it so difficult to be concise? A man can only read so many outraged diatribes in a day.

No, the real world. But thanks for asking. Sex-related club? Really? Thats what you got from that? I hope your life always extends to the edge of your nose. Meanwhile, those of us in public schools will work to see all students are treated with respect and in equal measure. Good grief. Cheers