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I can't imagine it was something she hadn't said before - she's consistent in her opinions. I guess one too many people complained... or perhaps just one person who's opinion carried more weight.

Shame really - though she may be better off without us. (looks like a permaban from what I can see, av gone, gallery gone, etc.. Not to mention the fact Stunty :smile: just said it was.)
 

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The only thing I see is that she said to "kiss my black ass", but considering that she is Black, how can that be construed as racist? Am I missing something?

To me that would be as ridiculous as the kid that was almost suspended for bringing a tiny toy gun from a Lego toy to school. Zero tolerance in not always the right policy.

I didn't always get along with her, and she called for my permanent banning before, but she is going through a tough time with family illnesses right now. If the above quote was the reason I feel the staff made a mistake.

If she wants to come back I assume she can request to be let back since as far as I know banned members are sometimes allowed back.
 

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I was always a big fan of hers. It's a shame that she got a perma-ban.
 

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The only thing I see is that she said to "kiss my black ass", but considering that she is Black, how can that be construed as racist? Am I missing something?
in Shani Davis wins Gold in post 12 it was just" kiss my sweet black ass" along with "you ignorant Brit child" in post 5 she used the term 'crackers' as in "All y'all crackers can kiss my ass" In post 12 she also said to lemon::: "If you don't like it feel free to do us all a favor and leave the human race" ~~which sounds sickeningly like advising him to off himself for not agreeing with her. lemon seems like a strong enough person not to heed her advice.

http://www.lpsg.org/171196-shani-davis-wins-gold-mens.html
 

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Mem, the post you reference was not the racial slur that was one of the contributing factors in the decision to ban. If you wish do a google search of white racial slurs. (that was it) The policy of LPSG is that we don't tolerate slurs on anyones race, religion sexual preference etc.
In closing I liked her and her and many contributions here but there is not one set of rules for some and another for others.
 

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If the above quote was the reason I feel the staff made a mistake.

It wasn't one incident that resulted in the ban and that one did not come into it.

In the spirit of openness Mitchy and I have so far tried to answer any questions but as I have said before I'm not happy with these threads discussing people's banning.

Human nature will make those who like her be positively biased and those who don't take the opportunity to malign. That's not fair as the person isn't here to answer.
 

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The only thing I see is that she said to "kiss my black ass", but considering that she is Black, how can that be construed as racist? Am I missing something?

I think it was the "White Cracker" (can't recall if others)

Mods, I know you do a great job here, and everything is discussed thoroughly, but "Permanent"??

On a site like this, with some that could be very sensitive, I can understnd the desire to prevent things from getting outta hand, but I have to say that unless I'm missing other more serious violations (God knows I can do that :redface:), I have to say that it is a bit harsh.

I know "P" was a very strong willed person and didn't hold much back. That's actually one of the traits that drew me towards her. We have pm'ed back and forth on items that we disagreed with each other on, and she was not afraid to speak her mind, but also not afraid to receive the same.

It seems a bit over sensitive. I know I've mentioned it before, but I spent most of my Jr High and High School years being 1 of 2 white families in an all black neighborhood. Hell, it was a big enough area, it was more like a community. Slang names that many would consider racist (yes, even the "N" word) were thrown around constantly. I took how she was saying that in that manner.

I know that "here" it's a double edged sword. And I know that it must be controlled. However, would it be possible to reconsider it being temporary?
 

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Her racist terminology was directed at white folk.

I have two words for that...puh-leeze.

I'll say it publically, and it will probably be considered "problematic", but this board has gone WAAAAAY off the deep end of banning. When I was a mod, we got attacked all the time for being too strict, but I swear, we were total pansies compared to how it is now. I am very sensitive when it comes to racist stuff, but I don't see anything that would have been ban-worthy a year or two ago.

Today, people get banned for stupid things that they innocently do. New members who have naked avatars are banned before they even get a chance. Back in the day, we would send a message to the person, change the avatar, and then tell them to change it to something that fits the ToS.

It's no wonder people don't want to be a part of this place. Everyone is walking on eggshells because of the fear of being banned. What happened to getting a warning? Everything just goes to "permanent ban" and skip all the other steps. One does not go from kindergarten to 12th grade, they take all the classes, progress one year at a time. Why is it here that you go from happily posting to being banned, not even knowing what you did wrong?

When I was a moderator, I used to get irritated by members who would complain about the moderators, but I understand their viewpoint now.
I urge the current mods to reconsider their heavy handed approach to this place, because it's not the fun place it used to be.

There...I said it, flame me if you wish. I'm off my soapbox now.
 

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Give me a break...NJ is opinionated but she is not hateful. I've seen NJ make mistakes, apologise for them, or reassess her thinking on things.

Are we all totally and utterly innocent of any prejudice??
 

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, but she is going through a tough time with family illnesses right now. .
Yeah but Mem you are facing difficult times too with your mother being ill and you aren't going around being rude. She was also rude and offensive in a Certified doctor thrread, which explains the disruptive mention in her ban. And she may have been equal in PMs to people.


I liked her and never had a run in with her and hope her parents are better soon and she gets some peace in life. She's had a rough time since her arrival with health of her self and parents and relationship troubles.
 

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Mem, the post you reference was not the racial slur that was one of the contributing factors in the decision to ban. If you wish do a google search of white racial slurs. (that was it) The policy of LPSG is that we don't tolerate slurs on anyones race, religion sexual preference etc.
In closing I liked her and her and many contributions here but there is not one set of rules for some and another for others.


Nude, you know I like you and consider you a friend on here, so I'm going to politely disagree with you, but there are different rules for different people. I haven't seen that from you, but I have seen it from other mods. If you are friends with one certain mod, you have almost complete freedom to do what you wish. I think that mod also leaks information that is supposed to stay on the mod board. I saw it when I was a mod, and I know it happens now.

I'll send you a PM about it.
 

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Mem, the post you reference was not the racial slur that was one of the contributing factors in the decision to ban. If you wish do a google search of white racial slurs. (that was it) The policy of LPSG is that we don't tolerate slurs on anyones race, religion sexual preference etc.
In closing I liked her and her and many contributions here but there is not one set of rules for some and another for others.

It wasn't one incident that resulted in the ban and that one did not come into it.

In the spirit of openness Mitchy and I have so far tried to answer any questions but as I have said before I'm not happy with these threads discussing people's banning.

Human nature will make those who like her be positively biased and those who don't take the opportunity to malign. That's not fair as the person isn't here to answer.

Thanks for the clarification. I was not a big fan of hers. I tried to avoid her posts as much as possible. I found her too quick to anger and too slow to let things go, but she wasn't a bad person.

I now see that you guys had to do what was necessary.
 

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I think it was the "White Cracker" (can't recall if others)

Mods, I know you do a great job here, and everything is discussed thoroughly, but "Permanent"??

There can't be a double standard. If it was reversed no one would be defending the other person. Just because "cracker" is not as bad as the N word, you have to consider that the intent is still the same.

I have to agree with the Mods on this one.
 
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Prep I'll be happy to read whatever you want to PM. But currently there is no double standard with the moderators and the rules of conduct on the board. I don't know what happened before I became a moderator and really don't care. However all of this talk of leaks within the moderators is laughable to me at this point; mainly because I got two PM's today indicating that I am the leak. I am not nor do I think that there is a leak. People can claim to have the ear of a moderator but from my experience I think that it is a matter of someone boasting that they do and fabricating information to fit their agenda.
In closing we are not curing cancer here it's a big dick site.
Final words on the topic of the thread, this banning did not take place without prior warnings, temp bans etc. There just comes a point where we have to uphold the guidelines set by the owner.
 

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I am just curious what a person who spends that much time here will do now. Over 19,000 posts? Average of 16 a day? Thats got to hurt.

My prediction? Get ready folks, this place is going to be famous...

Check your news channels.
 
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I know Principessa! She doesn't have a racist bone in her precious body. She is a delightfull lady who occassionally can get wound up. She certainly does not suffer fools.
I think everyone loses with her banned.
 
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