madame_zora said:
I think what he's asking is why gay men want straight men to convert. It's a fair question, because we all know it's true, at least for some. Especially the lurkers here, they just seem to have more fun harassing straight guys. I'm also disappointed that we don't have sexual preferences on our avatars anymore, I think that helped cut down on the confusion, but that's not the whole issue.
I've said it before, but gat men are MEN. They are more aggressive than women in general, and there are those who push the issue beyond being pleasant, just like some straight guys do with women. I assume the post was a take-off on HSB's post on purpose, to make a point.
We should all respect each other's preferences once we know them, it makes for a happier board. That being said, if talking to gay guys offends you, you are definitely on the wrong site.
Again why I love you, Madame Zora--you are clear and insigtful, and bring to view valid points wihtout being nasty about it. Ok--my two cents, for what it is worth:
1) He has tated he has a problem with gay guys--he doesn;t want to see them, know them, or know ABOUT them--he feels they don;t have a right to be here, or express opinions, images, etc. He feels like they should be hidden away, and not seen. If they make sure to keep their mouths shut, and not do faggy things, or stay in the closet and make DAMNED sure they don;t dare approach a real man, well, then they MAY be allowed to exist, but you reserve the right to rob them, beat them up, and kill them, preferably by shoving large iron spikes up their asses until they die. I think I get eh basic gist of your viewpoint, and I'm not going to try and change your mind. Have a nice life.
2) Yes, there ARE predatory gay men, as well as predatory straight men, who won't take no for an answer, and feel that they have the right to shove their dick in whoever or whatever they please, regardless of the recipients wishes. In my book those people are assholes, and deserve little consideration beyond a polite "fuck off, asshole". But that's my opinion. Sexuality has little to do with that. Personality id what dictates that
3) The question of "Why do gay people have to falunt their sexuality, and have pride marches, and wear those silly little rainbow flags, and..." Simple answer---to get noticed, to be recognized enough to be able to have the rights to live, and love, and exist as normal healthy, everyday people without fear of being shot, or arrested, or having to live a life that society says is the only correct one, because their personal religious bigotry said that they are right and everybody else is wrong. Is alot of pushiness annoying and distracting, and sometimes do more harm than good? Of course. So was the period when Rosa Parks refused to ride in the back of the bus, or they marched in Selma, despite the governors order to destroy anybody who dared speak up. In 1969, at the Stomewall bar in NYC, after having been routinely arrested and harrassed for years, in PRIVATE place, out of the public eye, not bothering anybody, but being arrested an harrased JUST because "we hate them faggots, and we are gonna shit on 'em" beahvior, ENCOURAGED by the citezenry and authorities of the time, the gay men and lesbians had enough, and rioted, and DEMANDE some level or human deceny. And thus was born the real gay movement to be recognized as EQUAL human beings. Change is never easy, pretty or peaceful. This has been true for the history of humanity, and I doubt iot ever will be different.
4) I personally consider my sexuality my business---if I have a need for you to know, I will tell you. If you have a need to know, then I will tell you. Otherwise, unless we are trying to get each other in bed, it should have no bearing on anything. When I worked in the main office in my previous job, some of the ladies were spreading rumors about the sexuality of one of my coworkers. I asked them why this was important. They asked me "Doesn;t it BOTHER you that he might be gay?" I replied" I'm not planning on having sex with him, so, no it makes absolutely no difference to me". That shut them up--and that is basically how I feel about MY professing my sexuality.
Ok--I'm sure I have offended, riled, whatever many here. Feel free to fold, staple, spindle and mutilate. I'm not saying I'm right, just how I feel.