Problems with Gay guys

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KinkGuy said:
And they will gladly slap you back...and more. Men are their toys and they like to play...HARD !!!
Just one more quality I share with the armed lesbian militia.
 

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madame_zora said:
I think what he's asking is why gay men want straight men to convert. It's a fair question, because we all know it's true, at least for some. Especially the lurkers here, they just seem to have more fun harassing straight guys. I'm also disappointed that we don't have sexual preferences on our avatars anymore, I think that helped cut down on the confusion, but that's not the whole issue.

I've said it before, but gat men are MEN. They are more aggressive than women in general, and there are those who push the issue beyond being pleasant, just like some straight guys do with women. I assume the post was a take-off on HSB's post on purpose, to make a point.

We should all respect each other's preferences once we know them, it makes for a happier board. That being said, if talking to gay guys offends you, you are definitely on the wrong site.


I actually think that gay men are not behaving any differently than many srt8 men who get a "rush: from the idea of converting a lesbian over..... it is just looked at differently by society because it is 2 men,, and when it is about a str8 man converting a lesbian it is thought in most minds as his gaining her love...(they dont think about him fucking her pussy) BUT when it is 2 men, most do not think of the desire of love, or any emotional connection, they just think about one of them taking it up the ass which is far less acceptable to many str8 (i know not all) people.

I think that most gay men who pursue other men (as well as those who have pursued myself) arent necessarily trying to force themselves or their issues....they just want to be recognized intead of ignored, respected in stead of disgraced, and I think that attempting to create some kind of male bonding (whether sexual or not) may be a chosen path to accomplish being "truly known".

Funny that gay men do not get all worked up about woemn who want to approach them, they instead thank them and explain they are gay or not wired that way and they usually become fast friends. Unfortunately when it is str8 men, amny seem to freak out over it and act like idiots. Frankly it clearly demonstrates how very comfortable gay men are about who they are and what their desires are and conversely how very uncomfortable some str8 men are about their own sexual boundaries..........
 

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Beercan, I agree with you, this thread was specifically about those few guys who continue pursuit after a polite "No thanks" has been rendered. In those cases, I think it's a man thing, not a gay man thing.
 

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madame_zora said:
Beercan, I agree with you, this thread was specifically about those few guys who continue pursuit after a polite "No thanks" has been rendered. In those cases, I think it's a man thing, not a gay man thing.
Agreed. I think all men gay and str8 have and ego conquer thing going on at one time or another.
 
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Gay Panic? Is that like when you see English soccer player David Beckham take off his sweaty shirt and you have to run to the bathroom because in the next 10 seconds you're going to splooge all over yourself? Is that gay panic? lol

But seriously here. In the last few years I've been wondering about the straight guys who claim "gay panic" as a valid defense.

Is the reverse also true? Would we even believe a gay man who claimed "straight panic"?

There's no doubt in my mind that the right-wingnuts would hiss and spit.
 

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I was talking with a gay guy I know the other night & he said that he was "heterophobic". I thought that was the funniest thing....but maybe true too.





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Gay Panic? Is that like when you see English soccer player David Beckham take off his sweaty shirt and you have to run to the bathroom because in the next 10 seconds you're going to splooge all over yourself? Is that gay panic? lol

But seriously here. In the last few years I've been wondering about the straight guys who claim "gay panic" as a valid defense.

Is the reverse also true? Would we even believe a gay man who claimed "straight panic"?

There's no doubt in my mind that the right-wingnuts would hiss and spit.
 

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Scion said:
Gay Panic? Is that like when you see English soccer player David Beckham take off his sweaty shirt and you have to run to the bathroom because in the next 10 seconds you're going to splooge all over yourself? Is that gay panic? lol

But seriously here. In the last few years I've been wondering about the straight guys who claim "gay panic" as a valid defense.

Is the reverse also true? Would we even believe a gay man who claimed "straight panic"?

There's no doubt in my mind that the right-wingnuts would hiss and spit.


You got that right! I would love to see it though. Homophobes use the rare instances that they're uncomfortable to justify being complete assholes to all gay people, it's really stupid. I don't hate all men just because a few are ignorant fucks, I just look for the better ones.

Nonetheless, anything that makes the wingnuts his and spit is cause for celebration, let the hetero-phobia begin! I am a straight woman- FEAR ME!
 

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HungSpermBoy said:
I was talking with a gay guy I know the other night & he said that he was "heterophobic". I thought that was the funniest thing....but maybe true too.
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This is really interesting to me. I'm not afraid of straight men. But, having witnessed countless instances of their boorish to viscious behavior, I am certainly cautious around them. It seems that most straight men have an irrational fear that all gay guys will try to put the moves on them. I am incredulous when I encounter a straight man with whom I can carry on a relaxed intelligent conversation.
There are some impressive straight male members here on the LPSG. The pun was intentional, never the less sincere.
 

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I agree that men - whether straight or gay - are just more aggressive in their pursuit of sex. I've been approached a lot more by gay men than by straight women. Usually a simple "no thanks, I don't play that way" suffices. Occasionally I joke or tease a little. Take it as a compliment.

I have never been in a situation where I felt threatened or harassed by the approach, and I suspect those situations are almost non existent in general. Straights being bullied/harassed for sex by gays? Urban myth.
 

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HungSpermBoy said:
I was talking with a gay guy I know the other night & he said that he was "heterophobic". I thought that was the funniest thing....but maybe true too.

Yeah, unfortunately, for many gay guys I know, it is true.

It has even gotten to the point where I have had to 86 certain gay acquaintances from my parties due to their acting rudely toward my straight friends - who, in general, have been part of my life for a lot longer than most of my gay friends have.

This behavior seems to have occurred most frequently in social situations where the gay folks are in the clear majority. Perhaps these insecure boors feel that turnabout is fair play? I disagree and have let them know it.
 

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*I see gay people. They walk all around. But they don't even know they are gay...*

Haha. Just when this thread was getting fun, you people had to hijack it back to its inteded purpous!

Madame, with all due respect (which is a lot. where is that bizarre sucking sound that sounds like it is sucking up coming from? :D:D), I think plenty of people already do fear you! ;) But everyone (well, maybe not) likes a girl with a personality and a mind. I personally don't like these wallflower-ditz types. They have no opinions or wants. BOOORING!

I call the militia next!!! :D:D
 

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If one reads posts made by young gay men on sites that cater to gays, you will see that they universally say that coming out is a liberating experience. It is simple to understand this if one considers the alternative. Should a gay guy keep his sexuality a secret and tolerate the homophobic comments of his family and friends? How does he explain to them why he does not have a girlfriend, why he does not date, and why he does not even notice a good looking female that his friends slobber over? Rather than suffer in silence, the alternative is to let them know that he is gay. Unfortunately, many straight people think that a gay guy who comes out is forcing his sexuality on them. This is just another form of homophobia in my opinion.

The vast majority of gay guys look and act like straight guys. For example, did anyone watch the reality show "Boy Meets Boy" where the gay guy could not tell that 8 of the 15 guys he was choosing from were straight? He was infuriated when this "secret" was divulged to him by the producers before the last program in the series.

I must confess that I personally do not understand why any gay guy would want to act effeminate or dress as a female. But there are straight men who do the same thing! To me sexuality cannot be absolutely defined. It is like a probability density function. There is a peak where the majority lie and tails on each side of the peak where people differ in opposite directions from the norm.
 

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Dr. Rock (who actually gave the first response to this thread) really said it best. However, I will gladly add my 95 cents. As a gay man, it's so offensive to have some straight person complain about something so ridiculous. What you're really saying is that you're personally uncomfortable with gays and you wish we'd all just shut up about it and get back in the closet. Well too bad because it ain't happening. How in the world can you think for a minute that you heteros don't blab on and on about your own lives and sexual preferences: i.e. everything from the coworker who talks about what she and her HUSBAND took the kids the night before, to the guys in the gym talking about how much PUSSY they had or wish they had or are going to have, to the endless media (movies, magazines, commercials) that promote hetero love. Talk about shut up already. Yes, we march and we're loud and we're getting on your nerves and good. And we're going to continue.

And another thing, for anyone who's whining about gay men wanting to pick up straight men, how many straight guys do that to lesbians? For all the problems men (gay and straight) have caused in this world from raping, pillaging, wars and all the rest, you can't handle a little flirting? Guess what? Here's a news flash: If you're not gay, it doesn't matter? Ever heard the expression "you can't rape the willing?" Well you also can't kidnap a person who jumping in the car to go along for the ride. If you're not interested in men, kindly say that and be on your way. How many times do women have to find ways to get dumb ass men out of their faces when they really don't want to be bothered.

And that whole comment "Yes, Im fine with being narrow minded.. if it saves me from allowing my ass to go pounded," was completely unnecessary. I mean, really. I'm ready to give you more credit than that, but you've gotta work with me.
 

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madame_zora said:
I think what he's asking is why gay men want straight men to convert. It's a fair question, because we all know it's true, at least for some. Especially the lurkers here, they just seem to have more fun harassing straight guys. I'm also disappointed that we don't have sexual preferences on our avatars anymore, I think that helped cut down on the confusion, but that's not the whole issue.

I've said it before, but gat men are MEN. They are more aggressive than women in general, and there are those who push the issue beyond being pleasant, just like some straight guys do with women. I assume the post was a take-off on HSB's post on purpose, to make a point.

We should all respect each other's preferences once we know them, it makes for a happier board. That being said, if talking to gay guys offends you, you are definitely on the wrong site.

Again why I love you, Madame Zora--you are clear and insigtful, and bring to view valid points wihtout being nasty about it. Ok--my two cents, for what it is worth:
1) He has tated he has a problem with gay guys--he doesn;t want to see them, know them, or know ABOUT them--he feels they don;t have a right to be here, or express opinions, images, etc. He feels like they should be hidden away, and not seen. If they make sure to keep their mouths shut, and not do faggy things, or stay in the closet and make DAMNED sure they don;t dare approach a real man, well, then they MAY be allowed to exist, but you reserve the right to rob them, beat them up, and kill them, preferably by shoving large iron spikes up their asses until they die. I think I get eh basic gist of your viewpoint, and I'm not going to try and change your mind. Have a nice life.
2) Yes, there ARE predatory gay men, as well as predatory straight men, who won't take no for an answer, and feel that they have the right to shove their dick in whoever or whatever they please, regardless of the recipients wishes. In my book those people are assholes, and deserve little consideration beyond a polite "fuck off, asshole". But that's my opinion. Sexuality has little to do with that. Personality id what dictates that
3) The question of "Why do gay people have to falunt their sexuality, and have pride marches, and wear those silly little rainbow flags, and..." Simple answer---to get noticed, to be recognized enough to be able to have the rights to live, and love, and exist as normal healthy, everyday people without fear of being shot, or arrested, or having to live a life that society says is the only correct one, because their personal religious bigotry said that they are right and everybody else is wrong. Is alot of pushiness annoying and distracting, and sometimes do more harm than good? Of course. So was the period when Rosa Parks refused to ride in the back of the bus, or they marched in Selma, despite the governors order to destroy anybody who dared speak up. In 1969, at the Stomewall bar in NYC, after having been routinely arrested and harrassed for years, in PRIVATE place, out of the public eye, not bothering anybody, but being arrested an harrased JUST because "we hate them faggots, and we are gonna shit on 'em" beahvior, ENCOURAGED by the citezenry and authorities of the time, the gay men and lesbians had enough, and rioted, and DEMANDE some level or human deceny. And thus was born the real gay movement to be recognized as EQUAL human beings. Change is never easy, pretty or peaceful. This has been true for the history of humanity, and I doubt iot ever will be different.
4) I personally consider my sexuality my business---if I have a need for you to know, I will tell you. If you have a need to know, then I will tell you. Otherwise, unless we are trying to get each other in bed, it should have no bearing on anything. When I worked in the main office in my previous job, some of the ladies were spreading rumors about the sexuality of one of my coworkers. I asked them why this was important. They asked me "Doesn;t it BOTHER you that he might be gay?" I replied" I'm not planning on having sex with him, so, no it makes absolutely no difference to me". That shut them up--and that is basically how I feel about MY professing my sexuality.

Ok--I'm sure I have offended, riled, whatever many here. Feel free to fold, staple, spindle and mutilate. I'm not saying I'm right, just how I feel.
 

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jerkdude75 said:
Dr. Rock (who actually gave the first response to this thread) really said it best. However, I will gladly add my 95 cents. As a gay man, it's so offensive to have some straight person complain about something so ridiculous. What you're really saying is that you're personally uncomfortable with gays and you wish we'd all just shut up about it and get back in the closet. Well too bad because it ain't happening. How in the world can you think for a minute that you heteros don't blab on and on about your own lives and sexual preferences: i.e. everything from the coworker who talks about what she and her HUSBAND took the kids the night before, to the guys in the gym talking about how much PUSSY they had or wish they had or are going to have, to the endless media (movies, magazines, commercials) that promote hetero love. Talk about shut up already. Yes, we march and we're loud and we're getting on your nerves and good. And we're going to continue.

And another thing, for anyone who's whining about gay men wanting to pick up straight men, how many straight guys do that to lesbians? For all the problems men (gay and straight) have caused in this world from raping, pillaging, wars and all the rest, you can't handle a little flirting? Guess what? Here's a news flash: If you're not gay, it doesn't matter? Ever heard the expression "you can't rape the willing?" Well you also can't kidnap a person who jumping in the car to go along for the ride. If you're not interested in men, kindly say that and be on your way. How many times do women have to find ways to get dumb ass men out of their faces when they really don't want to be bothered.

And that whole comment "Yes, Im fine with being narrow minded.. if it saves me from allowing my ass to go pounded," was completely unnecessary. I mean, really. I'm ready to give you more credit than that, but you've gotta work with me.

Hear, hear!
 

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The last two long posts were really good stuff to read, thanks for those. People still address the Original Poster but I think he got run off a while back. And that's good because now we can talk about things that I at least would never have bothered talking about with SL////twat around, he's not ready to hear an honest discussion.

For example, obviously most gay men completely understand that you have to respect people's, in this case straight guys', boundaries. Of course most of us understand that no means no. Duh! Having a gay guy cross the line and hit on you too hard is not the solitary burden of straight guys, it's happened to most gay men at one time or another too. Right?

The difference is because we're gay, we automatically get that it's not a 'gay thing'. Like MZ says, it's a man thing. So guys, straight and gay, let's cut the shit. If somebody says no, have enough respect for them as well as yourself to back off. I mean, how hard is that?!

SL/whatthefuck was too blind with fear and contempt to understand this, which is why he didn't notice that for the most part, gay & straight gays get along fine on this site imo. Quite a few straight guys here could have been great role models to him for how he could get along too ('Preciate you guys, btw, :wink:). Too bad for him, we all make choices and live with them.