Proof that Obama is not only a socialist, but Carter 2.0

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The thing that has always bothered me about people who rail against socialism and use the label socialist derogatorily on LPSG is that they never seem to specify which aspect of it they reference/condemn. Nor do they seem to understand that many of USA’s friends and allies incorporate aspects of socialism into their goverments and ethical culture.
And as for calling other nations’ universal healthcare ‘socialized medicine’, why is universal healthcare necessity bad? Why don’t they explain exactly what they mean and why it should be rejected out-of-hand?

Conservatives (many) have a long history of trotting out the "socialist" label whenever they want to employ it as a means to discredit people who are advocates of social justice, ending discrimination, and recognizing a society's duty to its citizenry, INCLUDING those least able to provide for themselves.

For instance other countries who are members of the WHO, have recognized that organization's tenet re. health being a basic CIVIL RIGHT, and their countries' duties to assure their citizenry of healthcare.

Many conservatives PARTICULARLY seem to delight in calling black activists and civil right leaders "socialists" as yet ANOTHER one of their ways of dehumanizing minorities, and making their targets out to be something "OTHER."

Similarly, McCArthy's (another Republican) anti-communist hysteria targeted people perceived as DIFFERENT. Not only those who had different political, social, or even artistic viewpoints, but members of the LGBT community as well.

Fact is, in the minds of most conservatives, the terms "socialist" and "communist" are, for all purposes, the SAME, when used as a way of calling those with whom they disagree UNAMERICAN.

They called Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. a "socialist." They called Obama a "socialist" even when in fact he was more a centrist. And I've NO doubt they would've used the term against Bernie Sanders as well.

Of COURSE,

when THEY (conservatives) do silly shit like signing petitions to annex Alaska with Russia, or when Trump supporters show up at Trump rallies with "Trump/Putin" signs, or when Trump got on a national stage to implore Russia to hack American servers, or when members of his campaign IF not Trump himself colluded with foreign operatives and propaganda machines to defraud the American people, and when our so-called "REAL Americans" and our so-called "patriots" turn a blind eye to it, and dismiss it and defend it because THEIR guy profited from the scam...

... well, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
 
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Thank God Fox News and million Bubbas saved the world from Obama's plan of world domination.

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Conservatives (many) have a long history of trotting out the "socialist" label whenever they want to employ it as a means to discredit people who are advocates of social justice, ending discrimination, and recognizing a society's duty to its citizenry, INCLUDING those least able to provide for themselves.

The US has come a long way. Red baiting doesn't work like it used to. Bernie Sanders helped reduce the stigma of socialism. But there was no way in hell the US would elect a socialist as President. Hillary was the only option for Democrats.
 
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But there was no way in hell the US would elect a socialist as President. Hillary was the only option for Democrats.

One of the most ignorant things you have ever said.

Red baiting doesn't work like it used to.

Really?!?!?!?!?

It seems to work great for you two sentences later. As a "so-called left winger" you seem to have the same sort of disdain for socialism that any Alex Jones type does... you could never make a cohesive argument about why there would be, "No Way in HELL the US would elect a socialist president". I mean, you can bring up a million reasons why Alex Jones types or any die-hard Republican wouldn't vote for a socialist but... last I checked, they were RIGHT WINGERS and they don't vote Democratic anyway. It would be like heavy metal bands trying to make their more music appealing to bluegrass fans... A). It's a fool's errand and B). It would destroy the foundations of heavy metal according to it's roots plus, bluegrass fans don't even like electric guitars no matter how you fucking play them!

Yeah, nobody has ever argued that socialism would be great for the REPUBLICAN PARTY... it would be good for the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. WHY!?!?!? The 20-21st century Democratic Party has always been built on institutions like labor movements, civil rights, better living standards and improved opportunities for the economically challenged... you know - the foundations of SOCIALISM.

Yeah Bernie Sanders has done a lot to reduce the stigma of socialism, no thanks to the hard work of corporate Democrats such as yourself.

You can say that Hilary was the only option for the Democrats but the only people that buy that line of bullshit are corporate Democrats. Corporate Democrats sold out the Democratic party to the highest bidder and it has ceased to be a force fighting for the poor, the disenfranchised and the left behind. It has become the party of bullies, sycophants and bootlickers.

You are wrong, red baiting works VERY well these days... you corporate Democrats constantly used the abstract, "America would never elect a socialist"... you shouted it on the rooftops, you paid bot networks to push it in social media, goaded "journalists" to wax endlessly about how Sanders had no support even though he had the PEOPLE'S support... just not the fucking TV stations, newspapers, corporate donors, political consultants, corporate blogs, BOT NETWORKS and useful idiots like the fucktards still beating the dead horse that was Clinton/Kaine 2016 on social media.