Puerto rico

[TexanStar]

More sarcastic condescension from His Loftiness...

It was sardonic condescension, but thanks for noticing.

 

[Industrialsize]

Yeah it has.

In Puerto Rico’s ‘last mile,’ power is still elusive as next hurricane season looms

by Arelis R. Hernández April 4
It has been a wearisome operation tainted by allegations of corruption and coordination, meltdowns, and the cacophony of politics, experts say. Many residents report that having been without power for so long has led them to lose faith in the state-owned power company and, ultimately, the island’s government.

“There has been no sense of urgency,” said Josian Santiago, the mayor of Comerio, whose town still has outages in its more isolated sections; some might never have their municipal power restored and will have to resort to alternatives. “The problem is not that we don’t have a lightbulb to turn on or a refrigerator to cool. . . . They are torturing the people.
Left out of those statistics: More than 1,200 FEMA-provided generators are still the primary source of power for most of the island’s hospitals, more than two dozen police and fire stations, correctional facilities, and water pumps throughout Puerto Rico.
For every electric meter that fires back to life, there also is the fear — inevitable, at this point — that it will go dead again because of a substation fire, a transformer explosion or a snapped line. In mid-February, an explosion at a power plant plunged nearly 1 million people into darkness around San Juan, and rolling blackouts are common.

And another hurricane season looms just months away.
In Puerto Rico’s ‘last mile,’ power is still elusive as next hurricane season looms

 

[TexanStar]

In Puerto Rico’s ‘last mile,’ power is still elusive as next hurricane season looms

by Arelis R. Hernández April 4
It has been a wearisome operation tainted by allegations of corruption and coordination, meltdowns, and the cacophony of politics, experts say. Many residents report that having been without power for so long has led them to lose faith in the state-owned power company and, ultimately, the island’s government.

“There has been no sense of urgency,” said Josian Santiago, the mayor of Comerio, whose town still has outages in its more isolated sections; some might never have their municipal power restored and will have to resort to alternatives. “The problem is not that we don’t have a lightbulb to turn on or a refrigerator to cool. . . . They are torturing the people.
Left out of those statistics: More than 1,200 FEMA-provided generators are still the primary source of power for most of the island’s hospitals, more than two dozen police and fire stations, correctional facilities, and water pumps throughout Puerto Rico.
For every electric meter that fires back to life, there also is the fear — inevitable, at this point — that it will go dead again because of a substation fire, a transformer explosion or a snapped line. In mid-February, an explosion at a power plant plunged nearly 1 million people into darkness around San Juan, and rolling blackouts are common.

And another hurricane season looms just months away.
In Puerto Rico’s ‘last mile,’ power is still elusive as next hurricane season looms

Given the state of their power grid going into this, that's the safer course of action. Their being on the grid during Maria is part of why the death toll was so high.

 

[Chrysippus]

It was sardonic condescension, but thanks for noticing.

Again, a distinction that doesn’t make a difference.

 

[TexanStar]

Again, a distinction that doesn’t make a difference.

Much like everything you "contribute" to these discussions. You might as well be this guy perched on Industrialsize's shoulder.

 

[Chrysippus]

Much like everything you "contribute" to these discussions. You might as well be this guy perched on Industrialsize's shoulder.
/QUOTE]
But I’m not, so you lose, whiny butt.

 

[286798]

Get down off your Christmas tree, fraud. You’re no luminary, not a star, but you are a bag of sonorous and pompous flatulence.

Well, a star is a big burning ball of gas, so....

Side note, I'm not sure what beef the two of you have, but I wish you would contribute to this thread instead of just bashing someone who is sharing facts to support his position.

 

[b.c.]

It’s not about not helping people. We always help those in need.

When do we expect people to help themselves? PR isn’t a good example at this point.

But that’s beside the point. I’m frustrated. I can’t believe that the feds are completely absent and that the PR govt is completely inept.

No, it's about those hell bent on "helping" those who need help the LEAST. See: Republican Tax Cuts to Corporations and the Wealthy, for example.

 

[b.c.]

It's my understanding that the US Government doesn't receive funding from PR for things that my tax dollars would go towards, like infrastructure, defense, emergency response. Assuming that's true, then why would the US government be on the hook to fix it? I mean morally/socially it seems like they are because PR citizens are US citizens, but it's like not buying a homeowner's policy and expecting State Farm to pay up when your house burns down. It's a tough spot- balancing the needs of Citizens vs. if it's truly in the lane of FEMA/whoever to provide that response. I don't know what the answer is.

State Farm Settles Katrina Claims in Mississippi - The New York Times

 

[twoton]

No, it's about those hell bent on "helping" those who need help the LEAST. See: Republican Tax Cuts to Corporations and the Wealthy, for example.

The tax cut is not the point of the discussion.

What’s the federal responsibility to a place that isn’t one of the US?

 

[286798]

State Farm Settles Katrina Claims in Mississippi - The New York Times

AND? My point was not about State Farm specifically... the point was if you don't pay in, why would you expect them to pay out.

 

[b.c.]

AND? My point was not about State Farm specifically... the point was if you don't pay in, why would you expect them to pay out.

Because that's precisely what they did. Read the article.

 

[286798]

Because that's precisely what they did. Read the article.

I did. It sure sounded like those people had coverage through state farm... i.e. they paid in and should expect the company to honor their policy.

 

[b.c.]

I did. It sure sounded like those people had coverage through state farm... i.e. they paid in and should expect the company to honor their policy.

Let me explain the difference and what the issue was (and is). There are two types of coverage. Regular homeowners and flood. Most homeowners coverage doesn't cover flood damage. People who choose and are able to purchase flood pay EXTRA for that.

The contention was whether all 640 claimants who sued for coverage lost their homes from wind damage or flood. Now I'm not about to categorize or disparage all of them, especially considering that subsequent litigation found State Farm had coerced engineers and claims assessors to categorize wind damage as flood damage... shitty move on their part.

But I'd daresay that a significant enough number of those who received full settlements probably lost their homes to storm surge but didn't have flood coverage, including beachfront homes valued (according to the article) up to 2.3 million, which imo begs the question how do you live in a 2.3 million beachfront home and not have flood insurance?

The article further says that though Louisiana suffered more damage than Mississippi, the latter sued and got settlements... not Louisiana. Different strokes...

My greater point being, if ways can be found (as they should be) to help SOME, then ways can be found to help OTHERS as WELL.

This whole, "they should help themselves" b.s. argument sounds pretty shallow indeed, when manipulators, power players, and those with "CONNECTIONS" shall we say, manage to tweak the system to benefit THEMSELVES and THEIR constituency whenever they WANT.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Again: "life is precious" is what I hear from so many people. The SAME PEOPLE are the ones (not necessarily here in this thread btw) who go on about fiscal responsibility and how "PR did this to themselves so why is it our responsibility to fix it now?"

Just sayin. The hypocrisy is literally depressing.

 

[TexanStar]

Because that's precisely what they did. Read the article.

@lurker23 (since B.c. has me on ignore) This trend of people asking you to read a multi-page article to tease out the point they're trying to make is so annoying. I read that article and I don't see where it says what he says it says either.

 

[286798]

Let me explain the difference and what the issue was (and is). There are two types of coverage. Regular homeowners and flood. Most homeowners coverage doesn't cover flood damage. People who choose and are able to purchase flood pay EXTRA for that.

The contention was whether all 640 claimants who sued for coverage lost their homes from wind damage or flood. Now I'm not about to categorize or disparage all of them, especially considering that subsequent litigation found State Farm had coerced engineers and claims assessors to categorize wind damage as flood damage... shitty move on their part.

But I'd daresay that a significant enough number of those who received full settlements probably lost their homes to storm surge but didn't have flood coverage, including beachfront homes valued (according to the article) up to 2.3 million, which imo begs the question how do you live in a 2.3 million beachfront home and not have flood insurance?

The article further says that though Louisiana suffered more damage than Mississippi, the latter sued and got settlements... not Louisiana. Different strokes...

My greater point being, if ways can be found (as they should be) to help SOME, then ways can be found to help OTHERS as WELL.

This whole, "they should help themselves" b.s. argument sounds pretty shallow indeed, when manipulators, power players, and those with "CONNECTIONS" shall we say, manage to tweak the system to benefit THEMSELVES and THEIR constituency whenever they WANT.

Yep, well aware of the difference between flood insurance and homeowners insurance... as I have both. You missed the point of my analogy... it was that you pay for services to one and expect it from someone else. How about "if you have homeowners insurance through Allstate and you expect State Farm to settle up".

 

[286798]

@lurker23 (since B.c. has me on ignore) This trend of people asking you to read a multi-page article to tease out the point they're trying to make is so annoying. I read that article and I don't see where it says what he says it says either.

Or not making said point.

His typing in bold almost makes me want to put him on ignore.

 

[286798]

Again: "life is precious" is what I hear from so many people. The SAME PEOPLE are the ones (not necessarily here in this thread btw) who go on about fiscal responsibility and how "PR did this to themselves so why is it our responsibility to fix it now?"

Just sayin. The hypocrisy is literally depressing.

It's a tough spot. There are so many people that need services and only so much $$ to go around. It's kinda like if you have rent due but wanna buy the homeless guy and his dog a meal... who gets your cash? The one you're obligated to by contract or the one that tugs at your heart strings?

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

It's a tough spot. There are so many people that need services and only so much $$ to go around. It's kinda like if you have rent due but wanna buy the homeless guy and his dog a meal... who gets your cash? The one you're obligated to by contract or the one that tugs at your heart strings?

Where's the cash? Trump gave it all to his billionaire friends with his insane tax policy.

There's plenty of money. Our government chooses to spend it like the entitled rich assholes they are because our whole system is based on $$$$$$$. Not humanity or the value of life itself.