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Originally posted by raj@Mar 16 2005, 12:54 AM
I'm fully uncut but when I was a teenage and wanted to be "just like the other guys" I started to roll back my foreskin in the hopes that it would stay there. now I have the best of both world. My foreskin is aways rolled back, I'm not cut and because it id rolled back, I don't have to deal with the hygene issue of being fully uncut. Currently, even if I want to cover my penis head with my foreskin, it won't stay.

Thirty some-odd years of training my foreskin to do what I wanted it to do worked.

Like I said...best of both worlds...

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I have tried that for years but when I am least aware (wearing briefs) the damn skin just creeps back over the glans. Did you just constantly readjust during the day and what about at night. One guy mentioned using gauze -- I tried that and it just worked itself foward. I too want both worlds.
 

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I can't remember actually, but I don't remember doing anyhting special other than just keeping it pulled back. I do remember reaching in my pants to pull it back when I felt it slip back over. When I was younger, I'd just pretend I was scracthing my crotch. Nothing special. But it is great having my skin and keeping it clean and non-smelly. That was the worse part of have it over the glans.
 
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Hal8053: >Uncircumcised but with foreskin more or less semipermanently in position of circumcised male as you are which would yield: 1. the ease of better hygiene with foreskin mostly retracted, 2. reduced risk of causing cervical cancer (maybe this would not happen unless that nice fold of skin is completely excised??), 3. but for vanity reasons the reduction of the liver red color of uncut and covered glans to more neutral skin color would be desirable to me and 4. enlargement of corona >(hopefully) which reputedly creates greater sexual stimulation in female partner and at least to me would seem to be more rugged looking and with enhanced size would be better eye candy for the sexual partner. One of the correspondents in the circumcision group referred to this enlargement of the corona ridge as the helmeting effect of the penis I believe.

Your points are exactly why quite a number of men in varied parts of the world have done and are doing this. It is common in some cultural groups. Some American Indian tribes did this. The Japanese are said to. Someone has estimated that from 1900 to 1930 in the US about 20% of men did so. Then came the adoption of widespread, non religious infant circumcision, which didn't leave a foreskin position choice.

One of the largest advantages to this practice is that moisture is not trapped between the skin and the glans which is cleaner, less disease harboring. Disease is also less likekely to be spread to a partner. In fact some diseases that can occur are almost limited to the uncircumcised in occurrence.

With either circumcision or permanent retraction the glans may widen a bit and will have much better contact with vaginal surfaces than with a foreskin that moves forward on the outstroke preventing direct contact with the vagina.

The olympics were held nude but any man with an uncovered glans was barred- because that was too sexy!

> That is why I would like comments of others about methods that can without the mummified look of gauze kept there for weeks or months can keep that pesky skin mostly retracted until like this fellow it will stay there on its own until you choose to shield the glans and yank it forward.

In some cases the "training period" can be quite short. At age 12 it took me about 10 days to become "convertible" and stay in either position. I would guess early age helped. Obviously length of foreskin and looseness, etc. is a factor. It has been suggested that it helps to make a definite folding back of the foreskin on itself. Some guys have used a block of foam with a hole in it, cock rings, "o" rings

Most important would be to put the foreskin behind the glans again as soon after it slips forward as possible.

Something to watch for is to get the foreskin back forward if it swells much when first kept behind the glans choking off blood supply. Massage the blood out of the head and bring skin forward. This is not often a problem and only at first attempts. It is actually of some benefit to work ones way through this to reduce the risk of this happening to you if you are in an assisted care facility and someone catherizes you and doesn't move the skin forward and you have not trained out of the possibilty of paraphimosis.

Wearing it bare can make you feel more manly, turns on partners, and it is way cleaner.
 

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Originally posted by Hal8053@Mar 17 2005, 08:49 PM
>Uncircumcised but with foreskin more or less semipermanently in position of circumcised male as you are which would yield: 1. the ease of better hygiene with foreskin mostly retracted, 2. reduced risk of causing cervical cancer (maybe this would not happen unless that nice fold of skin is completely excised??), 3. but for vanity reasons the reduction of the liver red color of uncut and covered glans to more neutral skin color would be desirable to me and 4. enlargement of corona >(hopefully) which reputedly creates greater sexual stimulation in female partner and at least to me would seem to be more rugged looking and with enhanced size would be better eye candy for the sexual partner. One of the correspondents in the circumcision group referred to this enlargement of the corona ridge as the helmeting effect of the penis I believe.

Your points are exactly why quite a number of men in varied parts of the world have done and are doing this. It is common in some cultural groups. Some American Indian tribes did this. The Japanese are said to. Someone has estimated that from 1900 to 1930 in the US about 20% of men did so. Then came the adoption of widespread, non religious infant circumcision, which didn't leave a foreskin position choice.

One of the largest advantages to this practice is that moisture is not trapped between the skin and the glans which is cleaner, less disease harboring. Disease is also less likekely to be spread to a partner. In fact some diseases that can occur are almost limited to the uncircumcised in occurrence.

With either circumcision or permanent retraction the glans may widen a bit and will have much better contact with vaginal surfaces than with a foreskin that moves forward on the outstroke preventing direct contact with the vagina.

The olympics were held nude but any man with an uncovered glans was barred- because that was too sexy!

> That is why I would like comments of others about methods that can without the mummified look of gauze kept there for weeks or months can keep that pesky skin mostly retracted until like this fellow it will stay there on its own until you choose to shield the glans and yank it forward.

In some cases the "training period" can be quite short. At age 12 it took me about 10 days to become "convertible" and stay in either position. I would guess early age helped. Obviously length of foreskin and looseness, etc. is a factor. It has been suggested that it helps to make a definite folding back of the foreskin on itself. Some guys have used a block of foam with a hole in it, cock rings, "o" rings

Most important would be to put the foreskin behind the glans again as soon after it slips forward as possible.

Something to watch for is to get the foreskin back forward if it swells much when first kept behind the glans choking off blood supply. Massage the blood out of the head and bring skin forward. This is not often a problem and only at first attempts. It is actually of some benefit to work ones way through this to reduce the risk of this happening to you if you are in an assisted care facility and someone catherizes you and doesn't move the skin forward and you have not trained out of the possibilty of paraphimosis.

Wearing it bare can make you feel more manly, turns on partners, and it is way cleaner.
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Thank you to you and the previous correspondent. I will take more care to retract with vigilance and wait till it stays there. Still I don't know what happens at night, just guess daytime retraction will have to do the job. I've got work to do since my stretching routine gave me much too much skin -- before glans was always at least 2/3 exposed then it went back to pre-teen years coverage. Glad someone else wants this both worlds posture -- thought I must be a bit peculiar in that regard.
 
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Hal8053: .
>Some guys can keep it retracted and some can't which probably has do with amount of skin and size of the corona. I can't fer instance. Covered is the default position but the skin slides as your dick goes harder or retracts, partially covering or uncovering the glans.

>During sex the squeeze of the particular orifice your using (mouth, anus, pussy, etc.) retracts the skin as you thrust so the head is fully uncovered at max penetration and then covered as you withdrawl, much the same way an un-cut masturbates. That's the good part.


Providing that masturbation like is what you want.

With a forekin that is not always rushing forward on the backstroke, or with it trimmed surgically you will get direct stimulation to the corona and to the sulcus area instead of having the foreskin roll insulating you from it.
 

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I have alot of foreskin and it retracts fine but when I am soft its fully covered because there is just tooo much of it and when I am hard it covers half of my head...and i must say there is nothing like having someone with their tounge inside WoW what a feeling!
 
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Hal8053: >Why would you want to do that, lokican? The glans was meant to be an internal organ (encased in foreskin). Expose it and it'll naturally be over-sensitive. The moisture dries out, skin rubs/scrapes against clothing -- just like an eye if you removed the eyelid.

>The male humanoid was MEANT to have a foreskin by maker's design.

Admittedly what you say sounds logical but-

In terms of history the ancient Egyptians were circumcising. Circumcision grew up spontaneously in many divergent parts of the world. Its adoption has not wiped out any races that adopted it.

Likewise you can be assured that the coming of adulthood causes a lot of exploration of the genitals. That can result in the glans being left uncovered. There are parts of the world where it is expected that the glans will be continuously bared either by circumcision or by training the forekin to remain retracted, sometimes as an actual rite of passage to adulthood.

I certainly percieve the exposed glans to be sexier, more masculine, more adult.

As to any comparison to an eye- I don't think your eye could handle masturbation or vaginal or anal sex thrusting.

The penis does well exposed to air. It stays cleaner near automatically. Since it is not over sensitive from nom exposure, it is better suited to thrusting.

If you believe it must be continually covered you probably keep your lips in your mouth too- very similar stuff.

As far as statements on sensitivity- The very first times the glans of the uncircumcised is exposed it is usually tender and can hardly be touched. In most cases this moderates with exposure. This type of sensitivity has nothing much to do with actual sexual pleasure. Orgasm is usually triggered by sensors near the coronal edge that are more activated by pressure than by friction.

Most guys that wear their foreskins retracted or are circumcised enjoy the feelings they get from clothing, many enjoy freeballing as the corona is getting touched, not just the skin covering.
 
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Originally posted by Hal8053@Mar 18 2005, 01:49 AM
The olympics were held nude but any man with an uncovered glans was barred- because that was too sexy!
actually they were barred because most of them were jewish :( jewish athletes of the time got around it by stretching the remaining skin so that they'd appear to be uncircumcized to a cursory inspection.

Wearing it bare can make you feel more manly, turns on partners, and it is way cleaner.
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:shrug: never had any problems with my gender identity or any complaints from partners. both the girls currently living with me concur that they prefer the benefits of an uncut partner, in fact. I think the bottom line is that I can't understand anyone who would voluntarily sacrifice a large chunk of the best nerve endings in their body just so they could get away with not bathing. similarly I don't really understand the supposed health aspect - if being uncircumcized increases my vulnerability to certain diseases, I'm cool with that. worthwhile trade-off in my opinion. like, my family has a history of glaucoma, but I'm not too eager to poke my eyes out either.
 

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Originally posted by Hal8053@Mar 17 2005, 05:49 PM
Your points are exactly why quite a number of men in varied parts of the world have done and are doing this. It is common in some cultural groups. Some American Indian tribes did this.
Oh yeah? Name one other than the Wanabi tribe of the Fukawi reservation.

between the skin and the glans which is cleaner, less disease harboring. Disease is also less likekely to be spread to a partner. In fact some diseases that can occur are almost limited to the uncircumcised in occurrence.
Actually, the same diseases will just infect the glans instead.

The olympics were held nude but any man with an uncovered glans was barred- because that was too sexy!
Actually, it was considered obscene. Nothing more fuckin' sexy than goddamn Tourette's, bitch!

Wearing it bare can make you feel more manly, turns on partners, and it is way cleaner.
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Strange, I'm uncircumcised, and I don't have gender identity disorder. It's never turned my partner off. And, since I bathe daily, I've never had problems with cleanliness; I suppose it's cleaner to be circumcised if you bathe biennially.
 

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Originally posted by jonb@Mar 18 2005, 05:11 PM


The olympics were held nude but any man with an uncovered glans was barred- because that was too sexy!
Actually, it was considered obscene. Nothing more fuckin' sexy than goddamn Tourette's, bitch.

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Oh, shut the fuck up, you red-skinned feather-wearing bastard! (hot yet?)
 

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Originally posted by raj@Mar 17 2005, 01:03 AM
I can't remember actually, but I don't remember doing anyhting special other than just keeping it pulled back. I do remember reaching in my pants to pull it back when I felt it slip back over. When I was younger, I'd just pretend I was scracthing my crotch. Nothing special. But it is great having my skin and keeping it clean and non-smelly. That was the worse part of have it over the glans.
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Thanks -- that seems to be working -- just have to be careful to realize that in public one does not reach in underwear to make slippage adjustments. Already after a week, the skin pretty much stays retracted all the time, but only minor tune ups now and then.
 

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I read in one of these threads about an alternate method of circumcision where only the tissue attaching the foreskin to underside of penis can be cut to allow greater freedom in retraction -- believe this is frenulum. This tough connective tissue often causes me pain especially in some of the jelqs I am involved in and also in holding the penis head in some of the stretches. Is this just a simple snip and are there any horrors to be warned about as in the complete circumcision which i have decided never to have done. I think this would allow the "always" retracted posture I desire to be more readily accomplished. Thanks.
 

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Originally posted by motlissof@Apr 4 2005, 02:16 AM
I read in one of these threads about an alternate method of circumcision where only the tissue attaching the foreskin to underside of penis can be cut to allow greater freedom in retraction -- believe this is frenulum. This tough connective tissue often causes me pain especially in some of the jelqs I am involved in and also in holding the penis head in some of the stretches. Is this just a simple snip and are there any horrors to be warned about as in the complete circumcision which i have decided never to have done. I think this would allow the "always" retracted posture I desire to be more readily accomplished. Thanks.
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SNI - SNI - SNI?!?! SNIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?......

Just kidding...

May well be what ya need, but go to an excellent reputationed surgeon not just some "hack". Get yourself a "Cock-Doc".

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Thanks for advice, thought there for a moment you were going to give me a set of instructions and tell me where to get the blood clotting medicine used by boxers. I think I will just put up with the nuisance conective tissue -- there's lots of erogenous tissue in this area anyway and don't want to harm that.
 
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Originally posted by raj@Mar 16 2005, 06:54 AM
I'm fully uncut but when I was a teenage and wanted to be "just like the other guys" I started to roll back my foreskin in the hopes that it would stay there. now I have the best of both world. My foreskin is aways rolled back, I'm not cut and because it id rolled back, I don't have to deal with the hygene issue of being fully uncut. Currently, even if I want to cover my penis head with my foreskin, it won't stay.

Thirty some-odd years of training my foreskin to do what I wanted it to do worked.

Like I said...best of both worlds...

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Why didn't you just clean it every morning in the shower ?

I came in with foreskin, and but for a medical reason I will depart with foreskin, I have no idea why this such a big issue on here at times, especially more so among Americans.
 

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I am circumsized but several of my friends are not and they all make sure to keep their penises as clean as possible. I remember one time I was showering with one of my friends and he was cleaning it very thouroughly, soap and lots of scrubbing, it was quite interesting. in the past he had slight infections because he didn't clean it properly and so it caused him some pain, his girlfriend also didn't approve of the smell. but he learned his lesson and now it looks quite good....
 
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Originally posted by East@Apr 7 2005, 12:12 AM
I am circumsized but several of my friends are not and they all make sure to keep their penises as clean as possible. I remember one time I was showering with one of my friends and he was cleaning it very thouroughly, soap and lots of scrubbing, it was quite interesting. in the past he had slight infections because he didn't clean it properly and so it caused him some pain, his girlfriend also didn't approve of the smell. but he learned his lesson and now it looks quite good....
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If a guy doesn't clean down there everytime they shower or bath, cut or uncut, they want to get a grip of themselves imo.
 

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Originally posted by NelsonMuntz84+Apr 6 2005, 04:58 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NelsonMuntz84 &#064; Apr 6 2005, 04:58 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-East@Apr 7 2005, 12:12 AM
I am circumsized but several of my friends are not and they all make sure to keep their penises as clean as possible.  I remember one time I was showering with one of my friends and he was cleaning it very thouroughly, soap and lots of scrubbing, it was quite interesting.  in the past he had slight infections because he didn&#39;t clean it properly and so it caused him some pain, his girlfriend also didn&#39;t approve of the smell.  but he learned his lesson and now it looks quite good....
[post=297767]Quoted post[/post]​

If a guy doesn&#39;t clean down there everytime they shower or bath, cut or uncut, they want to get a grip of themselves imo.
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well, I always clean it, every time I shower I clean my penis thouroughly because it&#39;s simple hygiene and I don&#39;t want it to get infected.