pussy soreness

[paigexox]

So I have a question that sort of runs along these lines, but it's more of a pussy sting than soreness.

My boyfriend and I are both on xmas break right now, which is great because it means we can really have a larger amount of intimate time, but it's causing a problem for me.

Quizzically, it seems the more sex I have, and the longer, the more apt I am to developing tiny little vaginal tears, and this is something I never experienced when we did it intermittently, or even on occasion once a week.

I know the common sense answer is: don't have sex as much, or for shorter durations, or less vigorously, but I am ignorant, and that's an answer I don't want to hear.

So barring in mind we're doing everything "right," does anyone have any tips on how to avoid this problem... something like a hot compress in-between sessions or something? My current partner is the girthiest I've ever had, and that seems to be the issue. Well, beside the sexual downtime from the tears that just makes me even hornier.

 

[RawDog]

My ex got those frequently. She described it almost papercut like tears. I wrote up a loosening procedure in my blog that may help, but after the fact, Campho-phenique really helps A LOT! It numbs the pain, but avoid using it right before sex. Since the numbing effect will happen to his cock as well.

 

[paigexox]

Yeah they are just the ever-so-slightest little dark red lines that I can see :frown1:

 

[007baby]

Hey Paige,

This used to be a big problem for my fiance and I because of my girth as well... and sometimes we couldn't repeat a session or "keep going" for too long because of the burning/stinging feeling she would have.

But we've reduced the frequency greatly by either making sure she's very aroused and wet down there to begin with, and if not, I spend extra time making out to her pussy to really get her open and wet, and turned on for that matter. Hope this helps

-007

 

[paigexox]

Lubrication is definitely not the issue, it's just a stretching of my vaginal opening, and then when he strokes in and out the skin sort of flip flops from side to side as it grips his shaft and I get tears from that action.

I guess if this is going to become the norm I am going to have to vaginally dilate the same as anal. Ho hum, time to invest in an inflatable dildo.

 

[007baby]

Lubrication is definitely not the issue, it's just a stretching of my vaginal opening, and then when he strokes in and out the skin sort of flip flops from side to side as it grips his shaft and I get tears from that action.

I guess if this is going to become the norm I am going to have to vaginally dilate the same as anal. Ho hum, time to invest in an inflatable dildo.

Well, lubrication wasn't really the issue with my lady either... I should have been more specific sorry. What I meant was that by putting lub AROUND the pussy, like on the outside and in that area between the anus and the vagina>>> that helped her from getting tears in those areas. She primarily got em in the area between the anus and the pussy for some reason...

Btw, you are STUNNINGINGLY BEAUTIFUL!

-007

 

[B_subgirrl]

It's become standard practice with us already. Post sex, she gets up to go pee. I go to the fridge and fetch the cocksickle and a towel. She still gets sore, but the UTIs have definitely subsided.

No reduction in soreness?

I wonder how it's helping the UTI's? Maybe it reduces swelling, so the post-post-sex pees flow better?

As the relationship's gotten better and better, I just want to be inside her more and more. It's not always sexual either. Ther's just something spiritual, something connected, when I'm iplugged in nside her.

Aww, that's beautiful! I get that connected feeling too (I think). I can only imagine what it would be like with someone you were in love with AND had great sex with.

Ha! How did I know you'd know what that was like?!?

Psychic? :biggrin1: I'd have had many more experiences of it if I had my way.

Yay!! Do I get anything?

Nothing you're allowed to claim :tongue:

Quizzically, it seems the more sex I have, and the longer, the more apt I am to developing tiny little vaginal tears, and this is something I never experienced when we did it intermittently, or even on occasion once a week.

I know the common sense answer is: don't have sex as much, or for shorter durations, or less vigorously, but I am ignorant, and that's an answer I don't want to hear.

You could try having less sex for a few weeks (to give the tears time to heal between sessions), and slowly bringing your sex sessions closer and closer together. But if you've only got extra time together over Xmas, it's probably not worth missing out on the sex to do this method. And I know you didn't want to hear that - sorry :smile:

Have you tried the cold method?

 

[paigexox]

You could try having less sex for a few weeks (to give the tears time to heal between sessions), and slowly bringing your sex sessions closer and closer together. But if you've only got extra time together over Xmas, it's probably not worth missing out on the sex to do this method. And I know you didn't want to hear that - sorry :smile:

Right now is about the only totally undivided time we have before I head back home to PA after my exams end... So the whole situation is sort of bad timing.

I always expected less frequent sex would = tears, not more!

Have you tried the cold method?

I must have missed this somewhere... what exactly is it?

 

[RawDog]

No reduction in soreness?

The soreness right after sex is still the same (which is why we stop), but the internal swelling is greatly reduced when we use the cocksicle. Recovery time is a lot quicker too.

If I could fuck for 45 minutes every other day as opposed to every three days that's an improvement.

I wonder how it's helping the UTI's? Maybe it reduces swelling, so the post-post-sex pees flow better?

Exactly! At least that's what MR explained was the reason girthy cocks increase the chance of UTIs.

Aww, that's beautiful! I get that connected feeling too (I think). I can only imagine what it would be like with someone you were in love with AND had great sex with.

Yes, you do get that connected feeling too. It's that "plugged into the matrix" feeling we've talked about before.

Psychic? :biggrin1: I'd have had many more experiences of it if I had my way.

Ditto

Nothing you're allowed to claim :tongue:

Fucking tease. :tongue: <-- right back at 'ya

Yeah they are just the ever-so-slightest little dark red lines that I can see :frown1:

Something I totally forgot to mention was olive oil. They use olive oil when delivering babies. Something in the chemical compound makes the skin very very pliable. I've used it to help with fisting too. Massage it well onto the skin around and just inside your vagina and do the stretching/loosening up exercises I wrote about.

I always expected less frequent sex would = tears, not more!

Fuck that! No disrespect intended, but as someone very familiar with PE (Penis Enlargement, not Premature Ejaculation), your vagina's going though the same changes a cock would when put through stresses. Hit it while the metal's molten. Hit it, and hit it often.

 

[B_subgirrl]

Right now is about the only totally undivided time we have before I head back home to PA after my exams end... So the whole situation is sort of bad timing.

:frown1: Not worth doing the method I suggested then. You wanna get in as much sex as you can.

I always expected less frequent sex would = tears, not more!

I'm guessing that your vagina can cope with the occasional physical stress, but when it's ALREADY stressed from the sex you had yesterday and the day before, the stress becomes too much and it tears. More frequent sex should (theoretically at least - I don't know if it always works realistically) be fine in the long term if you give the stress and tears a chance to heal in between times. So essentially, you're working on stretching over time.

I must have missed this somewhere... what exactly is it?

I wasn't referring to anything special, just anything cold. Many of the women who experience soreness after sex have found that cold things help - cold water, ice cubes, RawDog and MrsR's cocksicle. It reduces the swelling so pain is reduced. But reducing the swelling (which may still be significant the next time you have sex, even if you don't notice it) can also mean you aren't as tight next time (swelling can make the vagina feel tighter and more entry resistant). This means you are less likely to further stress your vaginal area, and less likely to get tears.

The soreness right after sex is still the same (which is why we stop), but the internal swelling is greatly reduced when we use the cocksicle. Recovery time is a lot quicker too.

Oh good. I thought you'd said there was swelling reduction, and logically that's how it's supposed to work, but the 'She still gets sore' bit threw me.

If I could fuck for 45 minutes every other day as opposed to every three days that's an improvement.

Big improvement. Eventually you'll get to every day :smile:.

Exactly! At least that's what MR explained was the reason girthy cocks increase the chance of UTIs.

I think I vaguely remember the thread she talked about it in.

Yes, you do get that connected feeling too. It's that "plugged into the matrix" feeling we've talked about before.

Mmmm . . . that's when my floating hits it's height. Seriously, if I ever find someone I'm in love with AND get that connection with, sex will be dangerous.

Fucking tease. :tongue: <-- right back at 'ya

:biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1: *Ticks off the 'RawDog made me wet' box for today.* :biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1:

Something I totally forgot to mention was olive oil. They use olive oil when delivering babies. Something in the chemical compound makes the skin very very pliable. I've used it to help with fisting too. Massage it well onto the skin around and just inside your vagina and do the stretching/loosening up exercises I wrote about.

Oh, I'd forgotten about that. You're right. They do use it in childbirth.

Fuck that! No disrespect intended, but as someone very familiar with PE (Penis Enlargement, not Premature Ejaculation), your vagina's going though the same changes a cock would when put through stresses. Hit it while the metal's molten. Hit it, and hit it often.

:biggrin1: Why am I not surprised you said that? :biggrin1:

My advice is actually along similar lines. When I say to take breaks in between, I DON'T mean take long enough breaks in between that your vagina goes back to normal again. That would just put you back to square one again.

 

[RawDog]

My advice is actually along similar lines. When I say to take breaks in between, I DON'T mean take long enough breaks in between that your vagina goes back to normal again. That would just put you back to square one again.

Do you believe permanent physical changes to a vagina (from a large cock) is possible? I got into this discussion on another forum ages ago and I am of the belief that it can happen.

 

[paigexox]

I reallllly hope not.

Temporary changes, ok, but I sincerely hope the bodies plasticity would allow it revert back to the way it was.

 

[B_subgirrl]

Do you believe permanent physical changes to a vagina (from a large cock) is possible? I got into this discussion on another forum ages ago and I am of the belief that it can happen.

I don't know that PERMANENT physical changes are possible. However, in my experience, the more often you are stretching it out, the longer it takes to revert back to normal. Just based on my experience of course.

 

[RawDog]

The constant stretching may be a small factor, but I'm sure the bigger factor would be how you may be able to relax your vagina more in preparation for a size your body is already familiar with?

Paige, you're probably at that stage already where you could answer that theory too.

 

[B_subgirrl]

The constant stretching may be a small factor, but I'm sure the bigger factor would be how you may be able to relax your vagina more in preparation for a size your body is already familiar with?

Paige, you're probably at that stage already where you could answer that theory too.

The ability to relax is a MASSIVE factor. But to do that you need to be able to trust that he isn't going to slam it in too fast and too hard.

And I really do think I relax to a different extent if I know there's a lot of him.

 

[RawDog]

The ability to relax is a MASSIVE factor. But to do that you need to be able to trust that he isn't going to slam it in too fast and too hard.

And I really do think I relax to a different extent if I know there's a lot of him.

Bingo. This woman I had the disagreement with a while back couldn't see that point. Although her side was more theoretical.

UPDATE ON THE ORIGINAL SUBJECT OF SORENESS:
Has anyone ever heard of a lotion called Peniscillin? It's an oil they sell in those Passion Parties supposedly for soothing the ouchies after a hard romp. Well, I found it and it's ingredients are Vitamin E and Almond Oil. They recommend mixing it with a numbing agent.

Going to the Health Food store in town and buying a bottle of each and combining it and using it as lube. After we're done, put a bit of Anbesol on the cocksicle and see what happens.

We tried some Anbesol alone tonight and she said it helped soothe some of the pain.

 

[B_subgirrl]

Bingo. This woman I had the disagreement with a while back couldn't see that point. Although her side was more theoretical.

I definitely find it easier if I know how much I need to relax (possibly a psychological thing, but it seems to affect me physically as well).

UPDATE ON THE ORIGINAL SUBJECT OF SORENESS:
Has anyone ever heard of a lotion called Peniscillin? It's an oil they sell in those Passion Parties supposedly for soothing the ouchies after a hard romp. Well, I found it and it's ingredients are Vitamin E and Almond Oil. They recommend mixing it with a numbing agent.

Going to the Health Food store in town and buying a bottle of each and combining it and using it as lube. After we're done, put a bit of Anbesol on the cocksicle and see what happens.

We tried some Anbesol alone tonight and she said it helped soothe some of the pain.

Interested to hear how this turns out.

 

[paigexox]

Paige, you're probably at that stage already where you could answer that theory too.

I still have issues with my boyfriends huge girth early on almost anytime we have sex, regardless of foreplay. It seems to be less of an issue the more I want it, but I attribute that to the fact that I am willing to suffer a touch more in order to get the pleasure.

 

[RawDog]

I definitely find it easier if I know how much I need to relax (possibly a psychological thing, but it seems to affect me physically as well).

I still have issues with my boyfriends huge girth early on almost anytime we have sex, regardless of foreplay. It seems to be less of an issue the more I want it, but I attribute that to the fact that I am willing to suffer a touch more in order to get the pleasure.

I do think more and more that the familiarity aspect of it is what drives some of the boundaries being pushed rather than any permanent physical deformation.

Interested to hear how this turns out.

I'll post our discovery on this thread. Stay tuned.

It just struck me that with all my posts on this thread, I totally forgot this was started by kc2007. Hats off to a great thread (for me anyway). I can neatly point people to this thread now if any questions on the matter come up. Thanks, kc2007!!

 

[RawDog]

Verdict is in.

Although not a magic bullet, the Almond Oil with Vitamin E mix is by far the best lube we've come up with. It's easily absorbed by the skin after we're done and feels very slick and at the same time applies very thinly, not thick and goopy. Obviously, condom users can't use this lube, but if you can do it without condoms, I highly recommend this. I'd say mix five parts almond oil to one part vitamin e.

Her reccovery time is definitely getting quicker, but that has a lot to do with the cocksicle/Anbesol combo as well as the new lube. The UTI like symptoms have all but gone now.