i have received my solaray pygeum one daily pygeum 100mg last tuesday. the feeling of taking them, it is different than the others, very less stomach issues. i was expecting gels but they are bark dry form pellet tablets. i have taken them first last tuesday 1 per day and went to a business trip, without sex for 6 days and yesterday i had sex. my precum with arousal was for the first time to come out of the tip itself, without my squeeze. that is a great improvement for me.i still do not have any precum during the day
Pygeum overload! (No pun intended!!)
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Day 15
Two weeks in. Today I decided to take my last pill of PCT Xtreme (I still have plenty though). I may have taken only one pill twice a day (instead of 2 twice a day) but I started to had acne on my shoulders and back. As these are known effects of this product, I would rather stop as it is pretty inconvenient. I have also remarked that I tend to heal pretty badly in the way that instead of healing in a couple days from a minor usual pimple, the pimple literally would become quite bad when popped and would take up to 10 ten days now to heal entirely.
As I am not followed by any doctor it is wise for me to just put this product aside.
Concerning the effects of the Pygeum, Tribulis and Saw Palmetto. I was definitely horny for the first week as my expectations were great. As mentioned previously I used to never precum, not even a drop. I hoped to literally wet my pants all day long and being overly horny, however that is still not the case.
I haven't been horny for a week and even during sex time, it is not that greater.
NEVERTHELESS, I do see an increase in girth (for sure) and maybe in length (I need to measure). My erections are way harder and longer than usual when I am excited. @Antarestar I do have drops of precum, but I really have to squeeze them out and still, they are very small. It is quite disappointing as I expected to be able to self lubricate my whole tip with a flow of precum.
I can also tell you guys for sure that my cum production have tripled. I usually had to wait approximately three days to "recharge my balls", but I do daily what I would usually do less after waiting a couple days. That is definitely a great point.
My shoots are also stronger. I haven't had the chance to see how much i produced after having wait 5 days as my sexual partner gulped it all without warning !
To sum up :
2 weeks in, great improvements in general though I haven't reached my niagara fall of precum goal yet, let's hope ! I also had to deal with acne as side effect of PCT Xtreme, but it is not that bad, as I am used to that as a diabetic.
For the next 2 weeks, I intend to double my intake of pygeum and saw palmetto.
This would mean 4*100mg pygeum (12% phytosterols), 6*540mg Saw Palmetto, and keep on taking 4 tribulis as prescribed on the packet (also knowing that the latter is no joke).
Any questions ? Feel free to ask ! See you for a later update guys
Two weeks in. Today I decided to take my last pill of PCT Xtreme (I still have plenty though). I may have taken only one pill twice a day (instead of 2 twice a day) but I started to had acne on my shoulders and back. As these are known effects of this product, I would rather stop as it is pretty inconvenient. I have also remarked that I tend to heal pretty badly in the way that instead of healing in a couple days from a minor usual pimple, the pimple literally would become quite bad when popped and would take up to 10 ten days now to heal entirely.
As I am not followed by any doctor it is wise for me to just put this product aside.
Concerning the effects of the Pygeum, Tribulis and Saw Palmetto. I was definitely horny for the first week as my expectations were great. As mentioned previously I used to never precum, not even a drop. I hoped to literally wet my pants all day long and being overly horny, however that is still not the case.
I haven't been horny for a week and even during sex time, it is not that greater.
NEVERTHELESS, I do see an increase in girth (for sure) and maybe in length (I need to measure). My erections are way harder and longer than usual when I am excited. @Antarestar I do have drops of precum, but I really have to squeeze them out and still, they are very small. It is quite disappointing as I expected to be able to self lubricate my whole tip with a flow of precum.
I can also tell you guys for sure that my cum production have tripled. I usually had to wait approximately three days to "recharge my balls", but I do daily what I would usually do less after waiting a couple days. That is definitely a great point.
My shoots are also stronger. I haven't had the chance to see how much i produced after having wait 5 days as my sexual partner gulped it all without warning !
To sum up :
2 weeks in, great improvements in general though I haven't reached my niagara fall of precum goal yet, let's hope ! I also had to deal with acne as side effect of PCT Xtreme, but it is not that bad, as I am used to that as a diabetic.
For the next 2 weeks, I intend to double my intake of pygeum and saw palmetto.
This would mean 4*100mg pygeum (12% phytosterols), 6*540mg Saw Palmetto, and keep on taking 4 tribulis as prescribed on the packet (also knowing that the latter is no joke).
Any questions ? Feel free to ask ! See you for a later update guys
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It is good that you're tracking your progress, but have you done more precise measurements? What, exactly, as your increase in girth been? Is that flaccid girth or erect girth? How much, if any, was your length gain? I'm very surprised to hear that you think your penis is bigger from those supplements, but there may be the argument that better bloodflow due to those supplements means more blood in your penis and thus more size.
Also, do you really mean that your cum production has tripled? Have you done a measurement and seen 3x the volume of cum? Or do you just mean that the load that you can now produce daily is the same size as the load you'd have to save up for 3 days for without the supplements? These two things are vastly different claims, because waiting 3x longer between ejaculations doesn't mean you have 3x the cum available to shoot. Can you please clarify?
DAY 22
Right after having to take the double doses as mentioned in my previous message, I did have some serious side effects. During DAY 16 & 17, I had to rush to the toilet a lot, even once during the night. Needless to mention that it hurt a lot. However from DAY 18, everything went back to a more normal state.
I noticed that my prostate is somewhat itchy now. Also, I have this constant feeling of having been fingered gently and that the butthole is in a constant relaxed mode. This is a bit concerning.
The third side effect I have is chest pain, in the middle left of my rib cage. Nothing bad really, but I can definitely feel it. Especially when breathing in a lot of air, it is like my lungs and heart are being affected as well.
Concerning what everyone want to know, I do NOT have an increase in precum after this week of double dosing. I am NOT more horny than usual (which was already pretty low except for the first 5 DAYS of treatment). I had a feeling of drops flowing down my penis a couple times, even in a flaccid state but nothing comes out. In order to see a tiny ridiculous droplet, I do have to grab my penis from the base and squeeze the heck out of it to eventually see the droplet. Meh ...
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For this last upcoming week, I plan to go back to a standard dose of pygeum ans saw palmetto. I know it is supposed to take a couple weeks to kick in but having already been in it for 3 weeks, I am pretty sure I cannot expect more.
Farewell dreams and fantasy of flowing gooey precum ...
@KuronoB
I have not done any precise measurement, I wish I had though... According to the expert eye of my fiancé, he confirms that I have NOT gained any girth while flaccid neither erect. You have a great point saying that the bloodflow is better. Indeed it is, and as I am harder and can feel the pressure inside, from my point of view, I may have been fooled by my expectations. Let's say I reached the maximum blood capacity of my penis with the pills while I am usually hard but "meh" normally (as i do not reach the same level of hardness).
Therefore I can conclude that I did not gain any significant length or girth. My tip is definitely reddish though.
Concerning the volume of cum, I did not cum in a bottle or some kind of other experiment as I think that there is too many factors that can contribute to an increase or decrease of production of sperm and seminal liquid. I can say for sure that my loads are more liquid than pre-treatment, and that therefore, I can shoot at higher velocity.
What I would usually get in 3 days (lot of gooey cum) I can now have it in a more diluted form in one day. However, I think that though the production of seminal liquid definitely increased, the production of sperm in itself may have stayed the same as it is not as white as before (per load).
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I definitely have mixed feelings about these products so far.
Advantages
- Increase in the volume of seminal fluid
- Increase of precum
- Harder hard-ons
- Boners easier to access
Disapointments
- The increase of precum depends on each individual. I used to produce NO precum (as in getting droplets while wanking). NOW I can though they are ridiculously small and pretty much useless. Seeing them is hot but it is just a reminder that my expectations have definitely not being filled.
DO NOT EXPECT TO DRIP LIKE CRAZY IF YOU DO NOT USUALLY PRODUCE PRECUM.
- I was told that I would be overly horny and excited. Some members here seemed to have experienced this feeling. I used to but I figured out that it was just the high expectation of being changed and starting the treatment. To be honest, i was so excited that when I wanked the day before receiving my treatment, I edged so much for the first time of my life that I did dripped a hell of lot, like a faucet (This was never seen before for me). I have attempted to do the same on daily basis and after three days while on treatment, at the beginning, and after a couple weeks. I cannot reproduce what happened pre-treatment.
EXPECTATION AND PSYCHOLOGICAL EXCITEMENT TAKES A HUGE PART OF PRECUMING, WANKING FOR THE SAKE OF IT OR IN THE MINDSET OF CHECKING YOUR AMOUNT SEEMS TO RUIN EVERYTHING.
Warnings
- Increase in "pimples". The pills may or may not have been the cause for the dozen I had but what I can say is that they definitely take WAY LONGER to heal and are definitely bigger and more important than usual, one will leave me a scar for sure (lucky enough they are not on my face).
- Chest pain and breathing problems ! I am not checked by any doctors so I am taking risks here but these are definitely the most alarming symptoms ! However they appeared when I was on double dose. Please do not fuck with the dosage, it does not increase the amount of precum, hardness, hornyness or anything. It just mess with your organs and I am sure you love your organs.
Right after having to take the double doses as mentioned in my previous message, I did have some serious side effects. During DAY 16 & 17, I had to rush to the toilet a lot, even once during the night. Needless to mention that it hurt a lot. However from DAY 18, everything went back to a more normal state.
I noticed that my prostate is somewhat itchy now. Also, I have this constant feeling of having been fingered gently and that the butthole is in a constant relaxed mode. This is a bit concerning.
The third side effect I have is chest pain, in the middle left of my rib cage. Nothing bad really, but I can definitely feel it. Especially when breathing in a lot of air, it is like my lungs and heart are being affected as well.
Concerning what everyone want to know, I do NOT have an increase in precum after this week of double dosing. I am NOT more horny than usual (which was already pretty low except for the first 5 DAYS of treatment). I had a feeling of drops flowing down my penis a couple times, even in a flaccid state but nothing comes out. In order to see a tiny ridiculous droplet, I do have to grab my penis from the base and squeeze the heck out of it to eventually see the droplet. Meh ...
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For this last upcoming week, I plan to go back to a standard dose of pygeum ans saw palmetto. I know it is supposed to take a couple weeks to kick in but having already been in it for 3 weeks, I am pretty sure I cannot expect more.
Farewell dreams and fantasy of flowing gooey precum ...
@KuronoB
I have not done any precise measurement, I wish I had though... According to the expert eye of my fiancé, he confirms that I have NOT gained any girth while flaccid neither erect. You have a great point saying that the bloodflow is better. Indeed it is, and as I am harder and can feel the pressure inside, from my point of view, I may have been fooled by my expectations. Let's say I reached the maximum blood capacity of my penis with the pills while I am usually hard but "meh" normally (as i do not reach the same level of hardness).
Therefore I can conclude that I did not gain any significant length or girth. My tip is definitely reddish though.
Concerning the volume of cum, I did not cum in a bottle or some kind of other experiment as I think that there is too many factors that can contribute to an increase or decrease of production of sperm and seminal liquid. I can say for sure that my loads are more liquid than pre-treatment, and that therefore, I can shoot at higher velocity.
What I would usually get in 3 days (lot of gooey cum) I can now have it in a more diluted form in one day. However, I think that though the production of seminal liquid definitely increased, the production of sperm in itself may have stayed the same as it is not as white as before (per load).
---------
I definitely have mixed feelings about these products so far.
Advantages
- Increase in the volume of seminal fluid
- Increase of precum
- Harder hard-ons
- Boners easier to access
Disapointments
- The increase of precum depends on each individual. I used to produce NO precum (as in getting droplets while wanking). NOW I can though they are ridiculously small and pretty much useless. Seeing them is hot but it is just a reminder that my expectations have definitely not being filled.
DO NOT EXPECT TO DRIP LIKE CRAZY IF YOU DO NOT USUALLY PRODUCE PRECUM.
- I was told that I would be overly horny and excited. Some members here seemed to have experienced this feeling. I used to but I figured out that it was just the high expectation of being changed and starting the treatment. To be honest, i was so excited that when I wanked the day before receiving my treatment, I edged so much for the first time of my life that I did dripped a hell of lot, like a faucet (This was never seen before for me). I have attempted to do the same on daily basis and after three days while on treatment, at the beginning, and after a couple weeks. I cannot reproduce what happened pre-treatment.
EXPECTATION AND PSYCHOLOGICAL EXCITEMENT TAKES A HUGE PART OF PRECUMING, WANKING FOR THE SAKE OF IT OR IN THE MINDSET OF CHECKING YOUR AMOUNT SEEMS TO RUIN EVERYTHING.
Warnings
- Increase in "pimples". The pills may or may not have been the cause for the dozen I had but what I can say is that they definitely take WAY LONGER to heal and are definitely bigger and more important than usual, one will leave me a scar for sure (lucky enough they are not on my face).
- Chest pain and breathing problems ! I am not checked by any doctors so I am taking risks here but these are definitely the most alarming symptoms ! However they appeared when I was on double dose. Please do not fuck with the dosage, it does not increase the amount of precum, hardness, hornyness or anything. It just mess with your organs and I am sure you love your organs.
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Ok - As far as the thread is concerned - back to Pygeum.
I am going into week 3 on my new bottle of Pygeum from Pipingrock.com. And I have to say, for the price, these little boogers are kicking ass. I am taking 2 100 mg pills in the am with breakfast and 2 100 mg pills in the pm with dinner. I have noticed some excellent dreams at night and I have woken up a couple times with some great wood. The precum starts flowing as soon as the wife and I get excited and doesnt stop until we are done. I can now watch a good porn online and edge and the precum comes out in wonderful globs. My ejaculate amount hasn't really changed. Like Pygcum said, ejaculate varies so much it is hard to determine what can cause the change. I am taking pygeum for precum, however, and it is working wonderfully so far. My wife now moans and slurps during the whole blowjob because she loves the taste of the precum. I have to be excited or in the mood for sex, nothing is happening while doing normal things or peeing. But as soon as I am aroused, the clear goodness starts to ooz.
I should also mention that on Pygeum alone, I have had ZERO side effects so far. And I have tried 3 different varieties and have a heart condition. But I only speak for Pygeum. The other stuff I do not know about.
I am going into week 3 on my new bottle of Pygeum from Pipingrock.com. And I have to say, for the price, these little boogers are kicking ass. I am taking 2 100 mg pills in the am with breakfast and 2 100 mg pills in the pm with dinner. I have noticed some excellent dreams at night and I have woken up a couple times with some great wood. The precum starts flowing as soon as the wife and I get excited and doesnt stop until we are done. I can now watch a good porn online and edge and the precum comes out in wonderful globs. My ejaculate amount hasn't really changed. Like Pygcum said, ejaculate varies so much it is hard to determine what can cause the change. I am taking pygeum for precum, however, and it is working wonderfully so far. My wife now moans and slurps during the whole blowjob because she loves the taste of the precum. I have to be excited or in the mood for sex, nothing is happening while doing normal things or peeing. But as soon as I am aroused, the clear goodness starts to ooz.
I should also mention that on Pygeum alone, I have had ZERO side effects so far. And I have tried 3 different varieties and have a heart condition. But I only speak for Pygeum. The other stuff I do not know about.
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Wanna bring this thread back. Just started piping rock pygeum like tomahawkjam. Just recommended dose. Never precum before, but I'm starting to be able to milk it out a little bit during edging and strokes. I'll never leak, probably. But I hope to one day "string" a little. Give it a try guys. Also starting to take HGW, Arginine, and Maca.
L-Arginine is a key element for pre-cum. it makes the cum thin and I think it also helps to flow of precum. I use pygeum for months any brand you name. there has been never a drop tingling or oozing, but a small wetness sometimes and whenever it happened, I was on Larginine. also a real sexual arousal is indeed needed, some say prolonged but for me a sudden strong sexual contact or touch is much effective in bringing the precome up
I have heard in a forum about MCT Oil and its positive effect on pre-cum, I opened a thread http://www.lpsg.com/416209-mct-medium-chain-triglyceride-oil.html
about it,
has anyone noticed an increase or any difference using MCT Oil?
I have heard in a forum about MCT Oil and its positive effect on pre-cum, I opened a thread http://www.lpsg.com/416209-mct-medium-chain-triglyceride-oil.html
about it,
has anyone noticed an increase or any difference using MCT Oil?
Tutkunadam - thanks so much for the wisdom on arginine. I've been on it. I'm getting more regular with it, though it's tough to worry about twice a day. Shooting for 5-6 grams a day. Can feel my muscles being a little harder (I'm in shape, but not some obsessive bodybuilder).
What was your arginine dosage? I'm also finding HGW and/or the combo of everything really boosting libido. Probably combined with less fap.
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Also - I just read your post on MCT oil. Seems like a non-starter. How'd you do on it?
What was your arginine dosage? I'm also finding HGW and/or the combo of everything really boosting libido. Probably combined with less fap.
. Also - I just read your post on MCT oil. Seems like a non-starter. How'd you do on it?
well I cycle so many supps at different dosages and times. at the moment I use 1000mg l-Arginine 5 caps a day, but before it was 2 500mgs from another brand.
for the time being, I am taking pygeum, aloe vera (which hast o have an effect but at least not worked for me - it is hydrator ), celery seed caps, multivitamin and I am taking some homeopathic medicine for dehydration therapy - natrium cholartum D6.
I am also on testesterone therapy with 2 package of androgel per day. I am planning to find a doctor to prescribe me hcg and put me on TRT with HCG protocol and arimidex and I think hcg will increase the hydration of the body. It has good effects on LH and FSH and it should do something to the cowper´s glands
for the time being, I am taking pygeum, aloe vera (which hast o have an effect but at least not worked for me - it is hydrator ), celery seed caps, multivitamin and I am taking some homeopathic medicine for dehydration therapy - natrium cholartum D6.
I am also on testesterone therapy with 2 package of androgel per day. I am planning to find a doctor to prescribe me hcg and put me on TRT with HCG protocol and arimidex and I think hcg will increase the hydration of the body. It has good effects on LH and FSH and it should do something to the cowper´s glands
Thanks tutkan. That's pretty intense. I'm probably not going to go the medical route. I don't have any testosterone issues and some of those medications/therapies are serious stuff. Do let me know how it goes though.
I don't see the point in taking it since you have to keep taking it to get the effects. I tried it and noticed increased precum and thicker loads but, I could never produced more cum than normal. I can cum lots if I'm turned on anyway.
It's for science 40inch. . We're trying to help find a cure for precum-itis, which is effecting millions of men of all races and beliefs everywhere. We want all men to be able to drool warm slippery liquid for their own well being.
. We're trying to help find a cure for precum-itis, which is effecting millions of men of all races and beliefs everywhere. We want all men to be able to drool warm slippery liquid for their own well being. It's for science 40inch.
hi Humiliter,
do you really search 4 that scientifically? it is a shame of medicine-urology that no one has written a phd or post phd thesis about the preejaculate.
it is a very complex secretion and an interdisciplinary team should take the issue and discover the secret.
I am ready to be the subject and use anything that beleived to increase it
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hi Humiliter,
do you really search 4 that scientifically? it is a shame of medicine-urology that no one has written a phd or post phd thesis about the preejaculate.
it is a very complex secretion and an interdisciplinary team should take the issue and discover the secret.
I am ready to be the subject and use anything that beleived to increase it
Of course not, tutkan.
. It's just really hot. my precum in the morning is the best all day or night. If I'm hard and my wife even touches me while we're still in bed, I'm leaking all over myself!
I notice that precum comes out most when I'm first hard and excited and then when I'm starting to get flacid it comes out the most. Sometimes it only comes out when I'm soft. Strange stuff! But when I'm in my wife and the sex is going good, and if she touches my balls or ass while we're doing it, I can feel the precum literally shoot out of me inside her. or, if I come out of her and there's a second or two between positions, it will pump out fast. If she gives me a bj between positions and touches my balls, she says the precum is so much she sometimes thinks I came in her mouth!
Why precum must you be so elusive?!?!
I notice that precum comes out most when I'm first hard and excited and then when I'm starting to get flacid it comes out the most. Sometimes it only comes out when I'm soft. Strange stuff! But when I'm in my wife and the sex is going good, and if she touches my balls or ass while we're doing it, I can feel the precum literally shoot out of me inside her. or, if I come out of her and there's a second or two between positions, it will pump out fast. If she gives me a bj between positions and touches my balls, she says the precum is so much she sometimes thinks I came in her mouth!
Why precum must you be so elusive?!?!
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I have experimented a bit with pygeum but I stopped. I'm a natural precumer, even when soft. The difference between much precum and too much precum made me quit.
So yeah, pygeum does make a difference IMHO.
So yeah, pygeum does make a difference IMHO.
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Any news so far? Here were so much people who gave pygeum a try but gave no response.
@Road_cyclist: How much did you take and was it bark or extract?
@Road_cyclist: How much did you take and was it bark or extract?
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I took 200mg a day (2 times a day 100). It was bark. After about 3 weeks I stopped because I leaked to much at unwanted moments! I am tempted to try again, but with a lower dose.
