I've gone back through this thread a bit & my interpretation of peoples current "stack" are as follows.
Daddy Bear ("stocky build"):
Pygeum - (500mg?) 2xAM / 2xPM
Zinc - 50mg x 1 PM
L-Argininge - 2x500mg AM / 2x500mg PM
Celery Seed - 2x1500mg AM / 2x1500mg Noon / 2x1500mg PM
Lecithin - 1x411mg AM / 2x411MG PM
Vitamin E - unknown
(from your posts & your posted photograph) Result is thicker/fuller cock & balls when soft, more (crisper/whiter) cum since dropping the Saw Palmetto, way more pre-cum.
UKHANTSMALE (Unknown build):
Pygeum - 2x500mg AM / 2x500mg PM
Lecithin - 3x1360mg AM / 2x1360mg NOON / 2x1360mg PM
More Precum, more cum (10ml)
Evolution (Slim build):
I was doing Saw Palmetto alone 2x450mg AM / 2x450mg PM - crisper/whiter cum, reduced libido.
Added Pygeum 2x500mg AM / 2x500mg PM - no change
upped Pygeum 2x500mg AM/ 2x500mg NOON / 2x500mg PM - random drop of precum, pinker gums, "flowing warmth" in my cock, teeth felt loose, Libido amped up.
Stopped everything & teeth feel right again, gums back to "normal" less vibrant pink, still random "flowing warmth" libido calming.
New cocktail :
Celery Seed 1x500mg AM / 1x500mg Noon / 1x500mg PM - "take 3 daily" dunno what that means so I'm spreading them out.
Pygeum 1x500mg AM / 1x500mg Noon / 1x500mg PM. That's 1 less tablet than recommended.
I want to try this in a little more balanced way during 'test 2'. I am finding precum in the urethra, but not 'leaking out'. I'd llke to get to a point of being 'self lubricating' but not so much so that I'm leaking & need to wear a diaper.
I'll stay where I am & give it some time.
Also, my libido is back to my normal / slightly elevated since the Saw Palmetto was stopped & Pygeum is moderated.
Also 2, my nipples are normally a 2D design on my chest. When I was on 6 Pygeum they were in a constant 3D state which is not my normal at all. Kinda fun, but the constant rubbing.... :-( At 3 Pygeum a day the nipples are back to 2 dimensional, but when I'm excited they stand at attention - I think a healthier / more comfortable way to live.
Anyway, hope this summary is helpful to folks following, & specific enough to be useful.