Pygeum overload! (No pun intended!!)

[EGren]

How long have you been taking Pygeum?
How do you deal with that after taste/burp from the celery seeds? It's horrible.
Where are you ordering Damiana from? And does it really helps with ball growth? Is it permanent?

I've done Pygeum twice now, first time I did for about a month in combination with Lecithin.
This time it's been a week.
I'm taking celery seed extract, so no aftertaste.
Piping Rock for Damiana, no first hand experience but apparently does make them larger. Not sure if it is permanent.

 

[LICNYCgay]

How long have you been taking Pygeum?
How do you deal with that after taste/burp from the celery seeds? It's horrible.
Where are you ordering Damiana from? And does it really helps with ball growth? Is it permanent?

Re celery seeds, I put a teaspoon of them into my oatmeal (along with the lecithin), and into a cup of yogurt in the PM. It doesn't taste too bad, and no aftertaste or burp afterwards, at least not for me.

 

[1117908]

One year update!!

So it's been a year since I've started my first dosage. Can't believe it's already been a year but there's a lot I feel I should update on. I've been experimenting with dosage and just kinda testing things out. I told myself I'd wait until a solid year before doing a solid update or review just to keep myself on track and kinda just personal I guess. After everything I have this to say...

So i started off with swanson brand pygeum 500 mg. 2 in the morning and 2 at night. I was also taking lecithin at the time but stopped after one bottle so im not going to factor in any of that. I was on this brand for about 4 months and did the recommended dosage. The results I got were crazy from the get go. I honestly remember I started oozing precum maybe a few days later after starting. From then on it became more and more

Ok so this is when it started to get a little crazy. I took about 2 weeks off and switched brands. I switched to piping rock ultra standardized 100 mg and took the same dosage ..WOW.. I don't know if it's how my body reacts, the break I took, or the brand change itself. But I actually got to the point where I thought "I must have the most precum ever" so crazy... So I was kinda having fun and this is where i started experimenting. The recommended dosage is 4 a day. So I literally started taking 20 a day. I don't recommended.. I will admit I got pretty bad stomach pain/cramping but wasn't unbearable. I would take a couple days off here and there. Sometimes take a week off while I'd wait for another order. I was going through bottles like crazy. Now I wanna get into the sensation. The feeling of fullness in my balls was amazing. It felt as if every tug or pull was a mini orgasm in my balls, followed by a stream of precum. I wear metal ball stretchers during the day adding to the sensation. I was checking back periodically to see other guys results and saw alot of you guys saying how when you "push" it would just be pee. Or that you couldn't get the "sensation" I'm gonna try to explain it as best as I can. Basically it's like a reverse kegal but without trying so hard. I know that's hard to understand but this is my tip. Try watching some porn, get completely relaxed and don't let your mind wander. Just let yourself relax and do that for awhile and get horny. Basically edge without touching yourself. Then stop and go do something else for a bit. Then repeat this a few times. Don't actually touch yourself and masturbate but just let yourself get horny. I get the most precum when I'm edging, horny, or haven't jacked off in awhile. It will literally pour without effort.

Now on to sex. I get the most horny when I'm having sex (obviously) and holy shit... kissing a guy for a minute alone and the constant stream begins. Blowjobs have all become insanely sloppy... I have had a few guys get grossed out, or constantly spitting it out disgustingly.. but whatever. I will say the one struggle is condoms. Having a full box on deck is always a must now. They get way too slippery and slide right off

So I guess my final verdict is that it definitely worked at least for me. I would suggest if it's not working for you to up the dosage. I know it's not really recommended and I'm not suggesting you do what I did and take that much but at least up the dosage because when I did.. WOW. Also I definitely preferred the ultra standardized stuff. If you've been taking them for awhile and and still no results maybe it just won't happen? We all react differently and what might work for some might not work for others.

And that was my year with pygeum lol

 

[1117908]

This is what a few minutes looks like when i watch porn without actually touching myself

 

[poibear]

I upped my dose to 2 pills this morning and after an hour of edging i had an amazing and unexpected massive precum spurt then another one about 15 mins later. my dick is still tingly and leaking. i had to lick it all up so no pics sorry

 

[LowerCapeCod]

Im trying dosing in the evening, before i go to sleep..see if the morning producing is better

 

[cmbhere]

One week update. no change.

 

[iluvmen]

So, I started taking 4 Piping Rock Ultrastandardized Pygeum (100 mg) pills on Thursday. Increased the dose to 8 pills on Saturday and to 10 yesterday, after reading keshablah's last post here. I haven't cum in the last 3 days. So I am saving my fluids down there and waiting for the precum to burst as it happened to keshablah. Not sure about increasing the dose to 20 pills a day though. It sounds excessive.

 

[Caladrius]

Hey everyone...

Since it's been a while, just wanted to let you all know that things are... happening. So yeah, again, as someone who never really made pre before, lately I've started to leak pretty easily though it only happens with stimulation (i.e. it doesn't just leak being horny, I have to actually touch my dick). Still, a start's a start. I tried adding straight up beta sitosterols into my mix and that did increase the flow quite a bit though I noticed the consistency was off -- more so wet than sticky. HOWEVER, I tried a few other supplements such as celery seed extract and pumpkin seed oil and I think that's been the most effective. The pre started getting thicker and stickier and I actually feel a bit hornier overall. And that was only after four or so days on the new stack.

All last week, my stack was as follows, split between morning and evening:

• 4 x 100mg Carlisle/Piping Rock pygeum extract (12.5%)
• 2 x 1200mg NOW sunflower lecithin
• 6 x 505mg Solaray celery seed extract
• 4 x 1000mg Best Naturals pumpkin seed oil

Didn't really have any bad side effects but I kind of got sick of taking so many capsules a day. However, given @keshablah 's new post, I'm going to focus on the pygeum, celery seed, and pumpkin seed oil mixture as those seem to be qualitatively working both for myself and others who are proven heavy pre-ers. That and this anecdote about pumpkin seed oil was kinda hot so... I had to try it.

For now, my stack is:

• 8 x 100mg Carlisle/Piping Rock pygeum extract (12.5%)
• 6 x 505mg Solaray celery seed extract
• 8 x 1000mg Best Naturals pumpkin seed oil
• At least a gallon of water a day

Yeah, I know I complain about taking so many capsules and the new stack is even more... BUT, the extracts are much smaller pills than the lecithin so they're much easier to swallow. That and these actually seem to have some effect on me; regardless of how much lecithin I took, I didn't really notice a difference.

ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE: SOMETIMES IT'S LESS ABOUT WHAT SUPPLEMENTS YOU TAKE, AND MORE ABOUT HOW MENTALLY AROUSED YOU ARE. I noticed there was a consistent difference between whether or not I was just jerking off out of boredom OR I was actually super horny/turned on by talking to someone sexy. Whereas I didn't really make any pre with the former just looking at porn, with the latter I'd find myself sometimes continuously oozing. Part of my earlier complaint with coping with anxiety and depression earlier this year is naturally a buzzkill for sexy time, but now that I've been focused on being overall healthier, sexuality included, I find it's getting easier to get to be mentally aroused again and just.. really into the whole thing rather than just jerking because I'm bored or I feel the need to prove something to myself (that I'm a male with a libido or being impatient with the supps hahaha). Like kesh said, it's important to focus on what you're fantasizing about and not let your mind get distracted.

That said, I find that I get super turned on reading people's pre-related stories, even without pictures, which got me thinking: hey, I'm a writer. I should write sexy things related to this. So I think imma start a blog on here related to my journey if only to start a feedback loop. I might also write some interesting fiction involving hypnotic suggestion... Because if I'm honest, just thinking about these ideas are kinda getting me excited.

But yeah.. I know this thread's dedicated mainly to pygeum but anyone have any good results with pumpkin seed oil too or other supps lately?

Either way, good luck, gentlemen.

 

[Caladrius]

And so begins my memoirs (in case anyone's interested). Any suggestions or insight are appreciated.

See what I did there?

 

[EGren]

So, I started taking 4 Piping Rock Ultrastandardized Pygeum (100 mg) pills on Thursday. Increased the dose to 8 pills on Saturday and to 10 yesterday, after reading keshablah's last post here. I haven't cum in the last 3 days. So I am saving my fluids down there and waiting for the precum to burst as it happened to keshablah. Not sure about increasing the dose to 20 pills a day though. It sounds excessive.

The thing I realized yesterday is Piping Rock sells 500mg extract and 100mg (standardized). That means 5x the dosage on the non-standardized versions which suggests to me that we can up the dosage to at least 500mg no issues. I know that others in the thread saw a better result from using the standardized but I'm tempted to try the non-standardized version plus some standardized on top, e.g. 500mg non-standard + regular 100mg dose of standardized. It may be more cost effective and reduce the number of capsules to take.

 

[Ryushin]

The thing I realized yesterday is Piping Rock sells 500mg extract and 100mg (standardized). That means 5x the dosage on the non-standardized versions which suggests to me that we can up the dosage to at least 500mg no issues. I know that others in the thread saw a better result from using the standardized but I'm tempted to try the non-standardized version plus some standardized on top, e.g. 500mg non-standard + regular 100mg dose of standardized. It may be more cost effective and reduce the number of capsules to take.

I don't think it's 500mg EXTRACT, it's 500mg BARK. I've heard the EXTRACT is more potent than the bark since they standardized it. I might be misreading the label, and if there IS a 500mg extract, please link it so I can buy it.

 

[EGren]

I don't think it's 500mg EXTRACT, it's 500mg BARK. I've heard the EXTRACT is more potent than the bark since they standardized it. I might be misreading the label, and if there IS a 500mg extract, please link it so I can buy it.

Hi Ryushin,

I think it is a little confusing this is the herbal industry after all. NOW foods has a good write up about the difference here: Whole Herbs vs. Standardized Herbal Extracts: Which is Better? However it isn't clear on whether it means concentration (and thus potential loss of other elements in favor of a particular one) or ensuring a certain level of a certain component is present (i.e. some form of quality control).

Piping Rock has the following, both listed as bark, with standardized having 12.5% phytosterols.

500mg (recommended dose is 2 capsules):
Pygeum africanum (bark) - dose 1000mg (500mg each)

100mg (recommended dose is 1 capsule):
Pygeum Extract
(Pygeum africanum) (Bark) (standardized to 12.5% phytosterols) - (100mg each)

For the 100mg capsules, I've only seen extra precum with at least 4 capsules a day, more so when combined with Lecithin (in a similarly large dose). I have not tried the 500mg capsules but may try them as they might contain other beneficial chemicals that are missing from the standardized.

Beta sisterol is a phytosterol. It's been mentioned in the thread that beta sisterol is effective. I have some on the way and will report back if it makes a difference. I've run out of Pygeum and Lecithin so I'll be testing mostly independently of other supplements.

 

[Ryushin]

Hi Ryushin,

I think it is a little confusing this is the herbal industry after all. NOW foods has a good write up about the difference here: Whole Herbs vs. Standardized Herbal Extracts: Which is Better? However it isn't clear on whether it means concentration (and thus potential loss of other elements in favor of a particular one) or ensuring a certain level of a certain component is present (i.e. some form of quality control).

Piping Rock has the following, both listed as bark, with standardized having 12.5% phytosterols.

500mg (recommended dose is 2 capsules):
Pygeum africanum (bark) - dose 1000mg (500mg each)

100mg (recommended dose is 1 capsule):
Pygeum Extract
(Pygeum africanum) (Bark) (standardized to 12.5% phytosterols) - (100mg each)

For the 100mg capsules, I've only seen extra precum with at least 4 capsules a day, more so when combined with Lecithin (in a similarly large dose). I have not tried the 500mg capsules but may try them as they might contain other beneficial chemicals that are missing from the standardized.

Beta sisterol is a phytosterol. It's been mentioned in the thread that beta sisterol is effective. I have some on the way and will report back if it makes a difference. I've run out of Pygeum and Lecithin so I'll be testing mostly independently of other supplements.

Really? Wow, I've been taking the 100mg EXTRACT hoping to get some precum but been wrong this whole time. I'll go ahead and order some BARK this time then. Which Beta-Sitosterol did you order? I've been taking the Mega Strength from Source Naturals but haven't seen any tremendous increase in precum.
As for your pygeum and lecithin combo, how much do you take of each and when do you take them?

 

[allman488]

Here's a little update for you all. I stop taking everything about a month-and-a-half ago because the wet spots on my pants were becoming too overwhelming. Even though it's no longer in my system, my body still can produce quite a bit of pre-cum. The good thing is it won't start dripping unless I start the flow and continue to push. Check it out..

AWESOME! Congrats man!

 

[EGren]

Really? Wow, I've been taking the 100mg EXTRACT hoping to get some precum but been wrong this whole time. I'll go ahead and order some BARK this time then. Which Beta-Sitosterol did you order? I've been taking the Mega Strength from Source Naturals but haven't seen any tremendous increase in precum.
As for your pygeum and lecithin combo, how much do you take of each and when do you take them?

Your mileage may vary with the non-standardized, it's just a hunch I have and will try it myself.

Effective dose was 6x pygeum standardized 100mg from piping rock, 6-8x capsules of sunflower lecithin from piping rock too. It does result in some constipation/fullness.

Beta-sisterol is coming from piping rock, I find it easy to order from and they seem to stock all these herbs everyone uses so can't vouch for the quality as I have nothing to compare to.

 

[cmbhere]

Question for the guys flowing rivers. Are you doing any edging or abstaining for long periods of time?

 

[1117908]

Question for the guys flowing rivers. Are you doing any edging or abstaining for long periods of time?

No not necessarily. I mean it helps of course. For me I just need to be somewhat aroused

 

[1117908]

Question for the guys flowing rivers. Are you doing any edging or abstaining for long periods of time?

 

[bombbaider4]

Damm so hot!! You should post more vids on xtube