Queer As Folk

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    Soooo, I just finished all 5 seasons of this show, and I thought it was pretty great! Are there any other fans of the show here ?

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    Yeah I love that show!!!!!!!!!!
    I think I seen the last show on t.v.
    Did brain and justian stay together? I think he was gonna go to school in New york?
     
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    Ugh I did not like this show. It was full of really bad stereotypes about gay men like the idea that we are somehow vapid queens who take tons of drugs, are full of self loathing, and are way too promiscuous or bound to cheat on our partners and can't have a relationship with anyone. I've never seen the UK version but I've heard that it was a lot better than the US version.
     
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    will it help that I know gay men are not really like that?
     
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    yes. It's a soap opera so that's why the show is like that otherwise it would be really boring. I remember when the show first was new straight people thought that all gay men were the way they were portrayed on the show.
     
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    That is why they call it the BOOB tube..
    It makes your head turn to mush...
     
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    This occasionally appears subtitled on some English language channel in Spain. Haven't seen more than four or five episodes, but if they are indicative of 5 seasons of the same drivel it has my vote as "Worst TV Ever!" Hell, La Novia Fea is vastly more entertaining. And unlike it's 'Mericuhn interpretation, Ugly Betty, at it least doesn't look like it was shot on a gay space ship. And La Novia Fea is REALLY bad TV! But compared to Queer as Toronto it's a far more entertaining soap opera.
     
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    I never liked Queer As Folk. The men were superficial. Noah's Arc on LOGO was good until near the end of the first season...things really got Melrose Place then that I stopped watching that show.

     
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    I liked the UK original, which concluded after two series/seasons. It was almost shocking to see such things as rimming, graphically depicted on UK TV at that time (1999). I watched the US version for maybe three seasons, when it was first shown on BBC Choice (now BBC3). It started off following the same plot as the UK version but then diverged into more of a soap before the end of season two. It was nice to see Sharon Gless in it though. Two of the actors in the UK version are now in Britain's longest running soap, Coronation Street.
     
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    Loved this show...just loved it. Odd enough though, I have never been interested in viewing it again as a repeat like I might with another show.
     
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    QAF was, I think, necessary for the time. I too immensely disliked the stereotypical characters, but was also delighted to see the show exist at all. QAF spoke to gay people in a way Love, Sydney, couldn't. It was liberating to see gay issues addressed in prime time TV.

    That was also its prime weakness. QAF's cast conducted their lives in a gay ghetto, largely isolated from the world around them. It's like saying that Good Times represented the life of average black people in the mid 70s. There may have been grains of truth in the stereotype, but it is by no means the whole truth. I'm reminded of when Nichelle Nichols nearly left Star Trek because she felt underwritten with little to do. Then she met Martin Luther King who urged her to stay in the role just for the profile it gave black people on a popular TV show. I tend to think MLK was right. Uhura may not have been as vital a character on the show as the leading men, but there she was, on the bridge, a black, female officer on board a fantasy space ship. And it meant something! As Whoopi Goldberg exclaimed, "Hey mama! There's a black woman on TV and she ain't no maid!"

    That's why I like QAF despite all its flaws. The characters weren't interior decorators or hair dressers, they ranged in age from young to old, supportive to rejecting, and many things inbetween. I think QAF added a complexity to gay life that straight people might not have been aware of. It certainly helped me, living in a small town with no gay community center or even a bar anywhere in the county. QAF told me I wasn't alone, didn't have to be swishy to be gay (I know, I know, but I grew-up around some really negative stereotypes), and introduced me to things I didn't know about (like poppers).

    I think like Cabin In the Sky, QAF will come to be seen as naive, simple, stereotypical, and patronizing, and yet it has opened doors and raised awareness among some in the straight community. On the whole, it's done more good than bad.
     
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    That show, despite any stereotypes came around when we needed one. You can't escape what was fundamental and help the show together which was the friendships and the love. Everything they went thru on the show Straight people go thru also. I felt the characters were well drawn out even if they sometimes stayed w/in their own boxes and maybe that is a point also about people in general.
    I never saw them as stereotypes reallly as much as people w/faults, wants, desires and needs and trying to find their way in the world to attain them. Some characters were less lovable than others and some made mistakes that made you yell at the screen. It was a hair over the top here and there...but overall much like life.
     
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    It was also something of a period piece. It seemed in some ways more representative of New York in the early 80s than of Pittsburgh in the late 90s.
     
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    Always liked the show. I thought of it as "Melrose Place" for gays. It was filmed in Toronto and we spotted Justin and ....the one who became Fetch Dickson for a few episodes.....forget his name around town.
     
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    Yeah, he was, and I'm not sure what Brian is going to do, ahah. I'm sad it's all over. :/
     
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    I just finished it, so I don't plan on watching the whole thing again for a very long time, lol.
     
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    Hear,hear.Likewise I never saw the US version but the original UK version was VILE.I found the representation of gay people completely depressing and like yourself found the relentless stereotyping of 'so called' gay lifestyles from another planet.Will anyone EVER present gay people on film/tv as normal well adjusted human beings??!!...
     
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    Oh, boy.

    On the Fox show Melrose Place, Matt Fielding (Doug Savant) was normal and well-adjusted. :rolleyes: He didn't get many relationship arcs in the series though. Everyone else (the straight peeps) was fucking and messing in each other's lives. Creating drama and all. While Matt was twiddling his fingers. Or maybe Matt Fielding was supposed to be a serial murderer or rapist. And they couldn't show that side of him on primetime. So they made him asexual or indifferent as a gay man.
    :confused:
     
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    I enjoyed all seasons though I thought season five was a bit too political. It got the message across that gays are here to stay so deal.
     
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    Granted, it was a soap opera. It overstayed its welcome with a sloppy, schmaltzy, almost embarrassing final season. Like all soaps, it was best consumed hot...or maybe thawed and rewarmed in 2025.

    But aren't mainstream night-time soaps replete with formulaic plots, simplistic characters and low-definition execution across the board?

    In addition to its plentiful and tasteful nudity, QAF offered a celebration of life-long friendships. Many gay male characters (including Justin, Ted and Michael) were committed to finding or staying in monogamous relationships. The occasional tension between Melanie and Lindsay stemmed from roots transcending gay sex. It touched on religion, role-sharing and Lindsay's own sexual ambiguity too.

    With the seasons passing, I also grew fonder of that pretty little twink Justin, who evolved to become a sharp, strong and sensitive young man (who seems extremely articulate off-line too).

    P.S.: And where on earth is a real-life 'Babylon'? Not even San Francisco has ever come close to that decadent concept.

     
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