Question for gay guys regarding bisexual guys

[invisibleman]

This is an honest question for the gay members of this forum.

Do you believe that bisexual men actually exist?
Or do you think that "bisexual" is a term gay men use to describe themselves while still struggling to accept themselves as gay men?

Thanks.

I think that bisexuality exists. The answer to your last question...I will say men who have had problems with confronting and dealing with homophobia, heterosexism and rigid masculine gender roles--regardless of a man's sexuality--will struggle with the gay part of their sexuality. It is possible for a gay man, a straight man, and a bisexual man to struggle with gay issues.

Some bisexual men are kinda cocky with the sexuality though. Those men can be provoking. Like it is a trophy..."I can sleep with handsome men and beautiful women." (What am I fucking supposed to do about it?! I am gay. I like men. I don't like women sexually. Yet some gay men find that those kind of bisexuals are interesting. They are the "straight men" they have sex with. And they have sex with them, and they come to me bragging about they had sex with this hot bisexual guy and watching him fuck a straight girl. I am like "THANK YOU BEYOTCH. RUB IN THE FACT THAT I AM NOT HAVING AS MUCH FUCKING SEX AS YOU ARE, OOOKKKAAAAYYY."

But I am like DAMN!!!!:frown1: And it is also worse with the hot gay men who go all over the world fucking men like changing outfits for various engagements of the day.

I am happy being gay. I am frustrated with trying to meet guys...and the rules and trends change to it being cool and trendy to fuck these straight and bisexual men. This is what frustrates me to no end. I don't want to fuck a man that likes women. I don't want that. And there are some hot looking straight men but I don't want a hot straight guy. I want a gay guy that is wanting me as much as I want him.

 

[DaveyR]

When you meet and become friends with a straight couple you never give a thought to their sex life.

Funny how that changes when you meet gays or bis.

I don't give a flying backscuttle about anyone else's sex life unless of course I'm included in it. All I care about is how they treat me as a person. What else matters if I am not involved with them sexually.

 

[440104]

just read kinsey book, the male sexuality. he found out scientifically that there is no really gay or straight. but different levels of it. his study was in a scale of one, straight to six totally gay. a lot of men are between two and four.

Actually it is more like this- STRAIGHT/Bisexual 1-5 on the scale/GAY.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

It's also very important to mention that the societal taboo of male homosexuality is what keeps many men from admitting any same-sex attraction. Most men who are comfortably heterosexual are most likely never to going to reveal any little gay thoughts.

Stop making me fall in lust with your mind. This is a penis site! :biggrin1:

 

[invisibleman]

Stop making me fall in lust with your mind. This is a penis site! :biggrin1:

You are really going to let that go to his head. He'll probably let you lick it for that comment. :biggrin1:

 

[BIGBULL29]

Stop making me fall in lust with your mind. This is a penis site! :biggrin1:

I would never attempt to tease you (would I?):tongue: I think I need to teach you a few "teasing" lessons.:biggrin1:

Quit inflating my ego. It is big enough, vinyl boy. :biggrin1:

 

[Lucky_Luke]

This is an honest question for the gay members of this forum.

Do you believe that bisexual men actually exist? Or do you think that "bisexual" is a term gay men use to describe themselves while still struggling to accept themselves as gay men?

Thanks.

Sure, some bisexual people do exist.

But I'd say they are a small fraction of the gay males who are either obsessed with their closets and thus describe themselves as 'bisexual', or the 'gay-hating' gay males who need to pretend they are not gay while they have sex with men.

I've also noticed that 'gay-teens' tend to use the 'bisexual' label as well.

In other words, lots of non-bisexuals use that label. People are thus quite reasonable to be suspicious of those who use the label.

Fake bisexuals seem to outnumber the real ones by a longshot.

 

[441771]

I agree, too. Sexuality is so complicated to begin with! And neat categories just don't work for a lot of people.

A lot of men like to see big dicks in porn. Many of them are not gay, but that mere fact makes them less than 100% straight in orientation. It doesn't mean necessarily they're bisexual, either, even though I believe many men fall into varying shades of bi-gay or bi-straight, which can either be malleable or relatively constant over time.

It's also very important to mention that the societal taboo of male homosexuality is what keeps many men from admitting any same-sex attraction. Most men who are comfortably heterosexual are most likely never to going to reveal any little gay thoughts.

That's total Bullshit which would be an apt reply from someone named BigBull. If a guy is actually heterosexual or straight he's not going to have any gay thoughts. Likewise if a guy is gay he's not going to think about pussy. You are either monosexual or gay/straight, or somewhere in between and that is bisexual. Opinions like yours are just why straight men believe that all bisexual and gay men somehow want them or want to "convert" them into being bisexual or gay, and why some straight men are homophobic and just why bashings happen.

 

[441771]

Sure, some bisexual people do exist.

But I'd say they are a small fraction of the gay males who are either obsessed with their closets and thus describe themselves as 'bisexual', or the 'gay-hating' gay males who need to pretend they are not gay while they have sex with men.

I've also noticed that 'gay-teens' tend to use the 'bisexual' label as well.

In other words, lots of non-bisexuals use that label. People are thus quite reasonable to be suspicious of those who use the label.

Fake bisexuals seem to outnumber the real ones by a longshot.

That's total bullshit. People who actually are bisexual outnumber gay men and lesbians. You really need to meet actual bisexuals and you will see how many of us there are.

 

[BIGBULL29]

That's total Bullshit which would be an apt reply from someone named BigBull. If a guy is actually heterosexual or straight he's not going to have any gay thoughts. Likewise if a guy is gay he's not going to think about pussy. You are either monosexual or gay/straight, or somewhere in between and that is bisexual. Opinions like yours are just why straight men believe that all bisexual and gay men somehow want them or want to "convert" them into being bisexual or gay, and why some straight men are homophobic and just why bashings happen.

If you have a little gay thought like most men have, you can't be straight? Well, there aren't many men out there who haven't, and many of them are still very heterosexual. Just like a lot of gay men have had some little straight thoughts. But they're still gay, right?

 

[441873]

Even if someone is a gay man and they do have sex with a woman this does not somehow magically make them sexually attracted to women and make them bisexual. I have had sex with a woman once and I was not attracted to her at all but I only did it because at the time I thought I was straight but I quickly learned from having sex with her that I'm not.

 

[441873]

I have nothing but the utmost respect for bisexuals. I do not have respect and I have lots of disdain for people like BigBull29 who are heterosexual and think that everyone is bisexual, that everyone is somehow attracted to both genders, or that nobody can be completely gay or straight. This sort of thinking is disrespectful towards gay men and it's offensive to straight people. Sorry Bull I know you are really heterosexual but I do not want any pussy at all unlike you. :wink: I have had sex with one woman and I personally did not enjoy sex with a woman, and I've never been sexually attracted to women at all. I'm gay and the fact that I had sex with one woman does not somehow make me bisexual or any less homosexual than a gay man who has never had sex with any women, or a gay male virgin.

 

[441873]

I believe many men fall into varying shades of bi-gay or bi-straight, which can either be malleable or relatively constant over time.

This is true for bisexual people only. As most bisexuals are not 50/50 or completely equal and bisexuals have fluid sexuality while monosexuals do not. People who are monosexual or gay or straight do not have a fluid sexuality. I have never been sexually attracted to women at all and I have never had any straight thoughts like you claim heterosexual men all somehow have gay thoughts or find men sexually attractive when this is not true. In the case of yourself BigBull there are people like you who have had sex with the same sex/gender and discovered that they do not like sex with the same gender at all and are not attracted to the same gender, but this does not make them homosexual or bisexual and they are straight but they did not know it like you have not always known this about yourself.

 

[BIGBULL29]

This is true for bisexual people only. As most bisexuals are not 50/50 or completely equal and bisexuals have fluid sexuality while monosexuals do not. People who are monosexual or gay or straight do not have a fluid sexuality. I have never been sexually attracted to women at all and I have never had any straight thoughts like you claim heterosexual men all somehow have gay thoughts or find men sexually attractive when this is not true. In the case of yourself BigBull there are people like you who have had sex with the same sex/gender and discovered that they do not like sex with the same gender at all and are not attracted to the same gender, but this does not make them homosexual or bisexual and they are straight but they did not know it like you have not always known this about yourself.

I understand your points very well, but you still don't understand my post:
I don't believe that everyone is bisexual, but rather that people are not 100% straight or gay. The tiniest gay thought a heterosexual person has doesn't make him or her bisexual in orientation. Though, the mere thought itself is enough to put that person under 100%. But, is that person still 100% in preference? Yes. Is that person bisexual. No. So, I'm not claiming that everyone is bisexual. I do believe, however, that we all have gay and straight thoughts to some degree, regardless of how minute some of them may be.

How would you categorize a man who does not like sex with men (experimented) but gets turned on sometimes by big-dick straight porn? He isn't bisexual in preference as he only likes sex with women. And his sexual lust for men in his mind isn't strong enough to be considered bisexual in orientation.

You are trying to make human sexuality a very black and white subject. It can never be. Neat little categories just don't work.

 

[B_dxjnorto]

This sort of thinking is disrespectful towards gay men and it's offensive to straight people.

Marley has a bee in his bonnet. He's young and still trying to work out how to sort the world population into neat rank and file order.

 

[closetbi]

They exist. If I exist, they exist. I don't pretend to like girls because I don't want to be fully gay. I just kind of see everyone in the same light, like I can make friends with a guy or girl without being intimate, and likewise I can fall for or flirt with a guy or girl. I used to think I was completely straight, and I would only go for the hottest girls. Eventually I realized that how they look has very little to do with how compatible we are, and I started dating girls that intrigued me more without counting their looks for so much. Then I realized some guys knock me off my feet the same way girls have...and that I can do the same to them as I have with girls. So anything goes with me, it's about the connection and the tension that is made between two human beings.

 

[B_dxjnorto]

They exist. If I exist, they exist. I don't pretend to like girls because I don't want to be fully gay. I just kind of see everyone in the same light, like I can make friends with a guy or girl without being intimate, and likewise I can fall for or flirt with a guy or girl. I used to think I was completely straight, and I would only go for the hottest girls. Eventually I realized that how they look has very little to do with how compatible we are, and I started dating girls that intrigued me more without counting their looks for so much. Then I realized some guys knock me off my feet the same way girls have...and that I can do the same to them as I have with girls. So anything goes with me, it's about the connection and the tension that is made between two human beings.

Good for you. Amazing cock by the way. I bet it goes a long way toward attraction of both [all] genders.

 

[441873]

Marley has a bee in his bonnet. He's young and still trying to work out how to sort the world population into neat rank and file order.

As a gay man it is offensive when straight men like BigBull or Bisexual men like you dxjnorto think that deep down I somehow secretly want sex with a woman or have some sexual attraction to women like you both do. *no snaps and a facepalm*

 

[441873]

I understand your points very well, but you still don't understand my post:
I don't believe that everyone is bisexual, but rather that people are not 100% straight or gay. The tiniest gay thought a heterosexual person has doesn't make him or her bisexual in orientation. Though, the mere thought itself is enough to put that person under 100%. But, is that person still 100% in preference? Yes. Is that person bisexual. No. So, I'm not claiming that everyone is bisexual. I do believe, however, that we all have gay and straight thoughts to some degree, regardless of how minute some of them may be.

How would you categorize a man who does not like sex with men (experimented) but gets turned on sometimes by big-dick straight porn? He isn't bisexual in preference as he only likes sex with women. And his sexual lust for men in his mind isn't strong enough to be considered bisexual in orientation.

You are trying to make human sexuality a very black and white subject. It can never be. Neat little categories just don't work.

Actually yes it is possible to be completely gay or straight. I'm completely gay. I've never once thought about a woman sexually and anyway what if someone who is straight considers the idea of sex with the same gender and it is a total turn off to them? Or they have never ever thought about sex with the same gender or opposite gender if they are gay? To be honest sex with the opposite gender is that way for me. I have nothing but respect for women and I have female friends but I do not want sex with a woman. Just because a straight guy watches men with big cocks in porn this somehow does not make him bisexual, it does not mean that he has "gay" thoughts, or even attracted to men sexually like you are suggesting. I suggest you stop projecting yourself onto others. You are straight, so you had sex with a man and did not enjoy it, and you are not sexually attracted to men at all. Stop harping on about how nobody is completely gay or straight since you are wrong. I once had sex with a woman and I did not enjoy it at all. Does it make me bisexual or somehow less than 100% gay? No. Does it mean that I somehow secretly crave a woman or pussy like you a heterosexual man and dxjnorto a bisexual man would like to think that all gay men somehow secretly want? Of course not.

 

[BIGBULL29]

Actually yes it is possible to be completely gay or straight. I'm completely gay. I've never once thought about a woman sexually and anyway what if someone who is straight considers the idea of sex with the same gender and it is a total turn off to them? Or they have never ever thought about sex with the same gender or opposite gender if they are gay? To be honest sex with the opposite gender is that way for me. I have nothing but respect for women and I have female friends but I do not want sex with a woman. Just because a straight guy watches men with big cocks in porn this somehow does not make him bisexual, it does not mean that he has "gay" thoughts, or even attracted to men sexually like you are suggesting. I suggest you stop projecting yourself onto others. You are straight, so you had sex with a man and did not enjoy it, and you are not sexually attracted to men at all. Stop harping on about how nobody is completely gay or straight since you are wrong. I once had sex with a woman and I did not enjoy it at all. Does it make me bisexual or somehow less than 100% gay? No. Does it mean that I somehow secretly crave a woman or pussy like you a heterosexual man and dxjnorto a bisexual man would like to think that all gay men somehow secretly want? Of course not.

You just don't understand my posts very well. We will have to agree to disagree.