Where did dinosaurs fit in when it comes to people?
Creation practice?
Where did dinosaurs fit in when it comes to people?
Actually, according to St. Paul, we do get a chance to know it all when we are in the presence of God.I see the thread as what questions we would make god if we face him .
In reality god never answer that questions. According to theist religions we have to figure it out , not a easy task.
Great...I just shot stout out my nose. Thanks, Meg.
Wouldn't Easter Sunday make a hell of a lot more sense? :biggrin1:
I don't remember the exact quote. Easter Sunday may be involved.Great...I just shot stout out my nose. Thanks, Meg.
Wouldn't Easter Sunday make a hell of a lot more sense? :biggrin1:
Yes, are right, Meg. Dinosaurs died out tens of millions of years before people. Modern humans (homo sapiens) have only been around in the last 50,000 years. Significant human impact on the world by humans goes back only 14,000 years. Oral history goes back less than 10,000 years. Written language is only about 4000 years old.lol, you're welcome. I just realized that my post sounded odd. I think everyone gets it, but I just wanted to know why we have proof of dinosaurs being in existence, but no ancient texts that talk about them? Did they exist before people?
Yes, are right, Meg. Dinosaurs died out tens of millions of years before people. Modern humans (homo sapiens) have only been around in the last 50,000 years. Significant human impact on the world by humans goes back only 14,000 years. Recorded history goes back less than 10,000 years. We are but a flash in the pan, so far.
Most of the world's Christians belong to denominations that believe it is heretical to interpret the Bible as a literal and innerrant document. It was not written that way and it should not be read that way. It is also not a history book, nor is it a science textbook.So... how did God create the world in seven days, then, if dinosaurs lived for millions of years? In Bible-speak, does "one day" equal 10 million years or something? Hrm.
God would answer, "Jason, you didn't read the sequel to the Old Testament, where I chose to become mortal, enter history and die miserably for every last rat bastard on earth, no matter how moral or immoral they might be, because I love them so much. In fact, all you needed to do was to read John 3:16, and you could have figured it out from there."...and most importantly:
- Why do you hold us to a higher moral standard than you hold yourself?
Its not the questions i have for him. Its the questions he has for me.
Yes well said.:smile:Well, the God I believe in would have no questions... just open arms and lots of love. :smile:
I don't think it could be said more simply and elegantly, Meg. This is the God I believe in.Well, the God I believe in would have no questions... just open arms and lots of love. :smile:
God would answer, "Jason, you didn't read the sequel to the Old Testament, where I chose to become mortal, enter history and die miserably for every last rat bastard on earth, no matter how moral or immoral they might be, because I love them so much. In fact, all you needed to do was to read John 3:16, and you could have figured it out from there."
Oh now i see what you meant by God holding us to a higher standard of morality than himself. Its a theodicy question you are getting at. Yes that is the hardest question of all. It might be the one I would ask God if I only had one question I could ask.To which I answer:
Feed John 3:16 to an infant in the hands of Mengele and see how it comforts him.
Most of the world's Christians belong to denominations that believe it is heretical to interpret the Bible as a literal and innerrant document. It was not written that way and it should not be read that way. It is also not a history book, nor is it a science textbook.
Insisting that Genesis is about talking snakes, for example, is like insisting that Of Mice and Men is about rabbits.
Here is St. Augustine scolding as far back as 400 AD for forgetting this from time to time:It not infrequently happens that something about the earth, about the sky, about other elements of this world, about the motion and rotation or even the magnitude and distances of the stars, about definite eclipses of the sun and moon, about the passage of years and seasons, about the nature of animals, of fruits, of stones, and of other such things, may be known with the greatest certainty by reasoning or by experience, even by one who is not a Christian. It is too disgraceful and ruinous, though, and greatly to be avoided, that he [the non-Christian] should hear a Christian speaking so idiotically on these matters, and as if in accord with Christian writings, that he might say that he could scarcely keep from laughing when he saw how totally in error they are. In view of this and in keeping it in mind constantly while dealing with the book of Genesis, I have, insofar as I was able, explained in detail and set forth for consideration the meanings of obscure passages, taking care not to affirm rashly some one meaning to the prejudice of another and perhaps better explanation.
The Literal Interpretation of Genesis 1:1920, Chapt. 19 [AD 408]
Yes, I can understand your feelings both on the literalists and the fundamenatlists. Most Christians are not literalists, at least according to the denominations they belong to. Part of the misunderstanding is our relatively new and Western cultural notion that the only important truths are verifiable facts. It is even implied by the two choices you mentioned: literally true vs parables.Interesting! I grew up going to churches that believed that the Bible IS a literal and inerrant document. I thought most Christians did take the Bible literally, although I know of some who take it as parables.
I grew up becoming increasingly angry with the religion I grew up in, because of the sexism and repression, and the idea of eternal hell. I am now not angry with Christians per se, but am angry with the fundamentalists (of ANY religion).
Most of the questions I would have for God would have to do with these issues.