Race and America

[D_Humper E Bogart]

*Is fooled*

 

[absinthium]

Originally posted by ChimeraTX+Aug 24 2005, 08:35 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ChimeraTX &#064; Aug 24 2005, 08:35 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-ORCABOMBER@Aug 23 2005, 03:07 AM
I have been, and it does make me wonder how our two societies (UK and US) are so similar (my father would say, "they&#39;re brothers") in their attitudes towards minorities.

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Why do you deserve the rights of a Briton?

Look at how immigrants have raped the system in Europe; some have the balls to not even try to learn the language. I&#39;m hoping for repatriation in the near future (just wait for another set of bombings.)

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LJ-CUT PLZ&#33;

THNX

 

[D_Humper E Bogart]

:nuke:

 

[naughty]

Ed,

Honey, you are an native of the UK.YOU were born there ,plain and simple. You do not owe a single one of the non productive headlice masquerading as human beings an explanation. I have read this foolishness long enough. It makes me sick to my stomach that we have such unmittigated selfishness that is being allowed to flourish today.Every person has to answer for his or her own sins and idiosyncrasies.

Kim

 

[Shelby]

To all of you who feel oppressed by the white devil (me) -

Your causes would be much better served by following the Shelby Steeles (my hero&#33 and Camille Paglias of the world than the Jesse Jacksons and Gloria Steinems.

 

[D_Martin van Burden]

Originally posted by ChimeraTX+Aug 25 2005, 08:32 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ChimeraTX &#064; Aug 25 2005, 08:32 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-ORCABOMBER@Aug 25 2005, 07:28 AM
Oh and *plonk*

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Will you give me my retort before I&#39;m blocked?

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I dunno, man. Should he? After all, he got choo goooooooooooood, sucka&#33; :evilgrin:

 

[naughty]

Shelby,

It would be very difficult for most of us who are being so vociferous to hate whites without either hating a parent or even part on our selves. I for one do not have issues with color in itsself .There are some things that Camille Paglia says as well as Shelby Steele that I agree with, but I do not agree with anyone carte blanche. You are oversimplifying circumstances that have been and continue to be very delicate and difficult.

Kim

 

[Shelby]

Well said Naughty.

I am oversimplifying. I should have said &#39;more closely&#39; follow. Because I still believe there&#39;s more to be gained from a postion of strength and pride than one of victimization and resent.

But I understand your sentiment. :thumbsup:

 

[Dr Rock]

today&#39;s (edit: actually yesterday&#39;s ) you are dumb has some interesting info on this subject.

 

[madame_zora]

While I do despise scientists being given grants to study the obvious, it does add salt to the wound to have the results distorted or buried. Until this thread, I really had no idea that people were stupid enough not to be aware of the plight of minorities in this country. Wow, nice job for only a few years in office, bush.

 

[Dr Rock]

:shrug: given carte blanche to ignore or disregard obvious, unpalatable truths without suffering the consequences, the majority of people will always go for it. when you&#39;re a spineless imbecile, it&#39;s a win-win situation: you avoid both thinking AND acting.

 

[Shelby]

As long as we&#39;re tossing around terms like &#39;unpalatable truths&#39; I thought some of the more intellectually adenturesome might be willing to give this a shot.

I assume that those of you whose mind is made up and the book is closed on this subject will quit about a third or less of the way through. But I&#39;m posting it anyway on the outside chance that it will (at the very least) provide someone with a bit of mental exercise. :think:

 

[Wave]

Originally posted by Shelby@Aug 26 2005, 08:40 PM
As long as we&#39;re tossing around terms like &#39;unpalatable truths&#39; I thought some of the more intellectually adenturesome might be willing to give this a shot.

I assume that those of you whose mind is made up and the book is closed on this subject will quit about a third or less of the way through. But I&#39;m posting it anyway on the outside chance that it will (at the very least) provide someone with a bit of mental exercise. :think:

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The last line of Shelby&#39;s link was beautiful poetry. And Madame Zora&#39;s observations about the distortions ONCE the facts are discovered in Science, as well as that it at least seems that white-men-in-power won&#39;t acknowledge our white privilege (perhaps cuz they&#39;d be responsible for changing it and balancing it somehow&#33 resonate as laser-beam-on-target to me. And Dr. Rock&#39;s misanthropy is refreshing as usual. You people are all beautiful, you people all get facets of the paradigm. Dig the new breed&#33;

Now if only Double Meat Whopper and Ashlar would chine in. :dunce:

 

[absinthium]

Originally posted by ChimeraTX@Aug 26 2005, 05:48 PM
Your definition of "native" is moot.

GROOOOOOOOOAN.

So I take it you and all of your ancestors sprouted from the Texas soil, huh? Like... WASPS*?

(*I seriously could not resist.)

Also:

na·tive (n&#257;&#39;t&#301;v) adj.
2. Being such by birth or origin: a native Scot.

So eat a dick already.

 

[KinkGuy]

<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>MAKE IT STOP &#33; &#33; </span>

 

[madame_zora]

Originally posted by Shelby@Aug 26 2005, 08:40 PM
As long as we&#39;re tossing around terms like &#39;unpalatable truths&#39; I thought some of the more intellectually adenturesome might be willing to give this a shot.

I assume that those of you whose mind is made up and the book is closed on this subject will quit about a third or less of the way through. But I&#39;m posting it anyway on the outside chance that it will (at the very least) provide someone with a bit of mental exercise. :think:

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Shelby, you will be surprised to learn that I completely support black conservatives. It is their choice in how they choose to combat their situation, and I wholly believe that there will be many more to join their ranks as time goes on. At this moment in time, I would call these people exceptions to the rule, but the rule is changing.

Much of this change has come about BECAUSE of affirmative action, but it has happened nonetheless. That we will not (or should not) need the crutch that affirmative action provides is my dearest wish. I am just not at the place yet where I am able to trust my fellow Americans enough to do the right things on their own. Not yet. Still, one can&#39;t help but admire those who are able to stand out and say "Disadvantaged or not, I will not be held back&#33;"

I feel this way for myself as well, I guess I could be called a conservative of sorts in my own right. The difference in mainly that I also support the rights of those who are not strong enough (yet) to do this, until a time of a little more balance comes. If we truly think of minorities as equal, then we must make allowances for there to be exceptional ones, along with a majority of average ones. That&#39;s what average means&#33;
I dislike standing up for mediocrity, but let&#39;s be honest- the vast majority of people are and always will be average, and there&#39;s no shame in that. I do appreciate the posted article, it is indeed food for thought.

 

[Shelby]

Thank you.

Thanks for giving his concept consideration and thanks for your compassion to the disadvantaged for the world.

I&#39;m an optimist. I believe things are getting better. Maybe not as fast as I would like, but shit like this takes time. As either John or Paul once wrote, "We can work it out."

(how sappy was that?) uke:

 

[naughty]

Chimera,

I seldom say this, but please go scratch a certain very tender part of your anatomy with a broken bottle.

naughty

 

[Pecker]

I&#39;d like for my grandkids to grow up in a world where race means left turns at 200mph.

 

[absinthium]

Originally posted by ChimeraTX@Aug 26 2005, 08:18 PM
synonymaus

Let&#39;s try "synonymous." All that time spent looking words up, and such a glaring spelling error. Tsk 1/2.

In any event, you&#39;re a wacky one, and I don&#39;t know why any of this is so important to you... You&#39;re a bit touched, to be sure, but you&#39;re not stupid. If you&#39;d use your powers for good, I&#39;d imagine you could be something of a real boy.

Because you&#39;re not an imbecile, you&#39;ve got to know that most of what you say doesn&#39;t make a lot of sense and comes off like the rantings of a complete lunatic. You&#39;ve convinced yourself of it somehow, (unless it&#39;s all a psychotically well-researched put-on,) and I&#39;m not sure why. Maybe you think it will get you somewhere... Maybe it helps you to feel better about yourself to put other people down based on trival b.s. Who knows, but the obvious fact is that you make a lot of enemies of people. My vote is that&#39;s your real aim...

After all, even negative attention is attention, now isn&#39;t it?