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MSNBC Host Touré: The GOP Is an ‘All White Party’ That Is ‘Hostile to Blacks, Gays, Women and Hispanics’ | Video | TheBlaze.com

MSNBC's Ed Schultz, Michael Eric Dyson Pull Race Card to Explain Weak Obama Debate Performance | NewsBusters.org

Truly disgusting stuff from the left. Michael Eric Dyson is the biggest joke of them all, but only because the woman in Toure's clip is a nobody.

In one clip we've got Toure being blatantly racist, with his female counterpart literally wishing death upon Allen West.

To levy these accusations against the entire party would be like me claiming the Democratic Party is anti-baby, anti-Israel, and anti-Capitalism, simply because some in the party share those sentiments. It's nonsense, and these umbrella statements are awful.

With M.E.D. we've got him excusing Obama's poor performance because he was shackled by the chains of race. This is the one that I find even more outrageous.

Yes, there is undeniably racists in the Republican Party. I don't think anyone would honestly disagree with that. But, do we really think these racist (degree of extremism notwithstanding) voters are undecided? No, they're going to vote anti-Obama more so than anything, simply because he's a black man. So Obama would have completely disregarded these votes, as there is no degree of how much you can lose a vote by...you simply don't get said individual's vote.

So, what we are left with is Obama needing to appeal to the undecided voters, most of whom would align near the middle, or very close to it. These are not people anyone would accuse of voting based on race, so why would he need to "soften" his blackness in order to appeal to them? The clear answer is he wouldn't.

I find these examples to be truly despicable, and a driving force of race based division. I would hope (though never expect), a Liberal supporter on these threads to disavow what is being said in these clips, and call it out for the trash that it is.
 

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Toure' sees everything through a racist lens. Most of the time he is screaming racism about things that were never meant to be racist, but if that's what you are looking for then that's what you hear. Both sides have racism, it's just who you are racist against that's different. Toure' just carries these things too far in my opinion. I see him as being in the early stages of becoming the lefts version of Rush Limbaugh. Both perpetuate outlandish talking points to promote themselves and get a sentence in a news column.

That being said, the left is giving far too much credit to race than is actually there. The right is intent on pretending it simply doesn't exist which is equally deluded not to mention dangerous. Anyone who tells you that racism, sexism, and homophobia no longer exist and play no role in our political process either doesn't know anything about politics or is lying to you.

Politicians routinely pray on these things during their primaries then shut up about it in the generals. That way they have the bigots on their respective sides to say these things for them. Romney will never endorse those t-shirts and Obama will never say the right is run by racists, but their bigoted supporters will buy the shirts and scream racism every chance they get.

As for Alan West... I personally bare no malice towards the man, but if you want race politics then he's your guy. Here are a few examples:

13 Outrageous Allen West Comments: House Democrats
 
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I love the fact that, when the Left does it, it's outrageous to you, but when the Right Does it, or Fox does it, or if Limbaugh does it... you don't mention it at all. It must be wonderful to live in the world wearing blinders, as you do? You're so deeply entrenched in your "Obama derangement syndrome bubble" that the jaws a life couldn't pry you from it. Hows that working for you? Because I can see right through you.

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MSNBC Host Touré: The GOP Is an ‘All White Party’ That Is ‘Hostile to Blacks, Gays, Women and Hispanics’ | Video | TheBlaze.com

MSNBC's Ed Schultz, Michael Eric Dyson Pull Race Card to Explain Weak Obama Debate Performance | NewsBusters.org

Truly disgusting stuff from the left. Michael Eric Dyson is the biggest joke of them all, but only because the woman in Toure's clip is a nobody.

In one clip we've got Toure being blatantly racist, with his female counterpart literally wishing death upon Allen West.

To levy these accusations against the entire party would be like me claiming the Democratic Party is anti-baby, anti-Israel, and anti-Capitalism, simply because some in the party share those sentiments. It's nonsense, and these umbrella statements are awful.

With M.E.D. we've got him excusing Obama's poor performance because he was shackled by the chains of race. This is the one that I find even more outrageous.

Yes, there is undeniably racists in the Republican Party. I don't think anyone would honestly disagree with that. But, do we really think these racist (degree of extremism notwithstanding) voters are undecided? No, they're going to vote anti-Obama more so than anything, simply because he's a black man. So Obama would have completely disregarded these votes, as there is no degree of how much you can lose a vote by...you simply don't get said individual's vote.

So, what we are left with is Obama needing to appeal to the undecided voters, most of whom would align near the middle, or very close to it. These are not people anyone would accuse of voting based on race, so why would he need to "soften" his blackness in order to appeal to them? The clear answer is he wouldn't.

I find these examples to be truly despicable, and a driving force of race based division. I would hope (though never expect), a Liberal supporter on these threads to disavow what is being said in these clips, and call it out for the trash that it is.
 
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Someone look up the replies to Stacey Dash's Twitter posts saying she was voting for Romney.
I give as much credence to Stacey's opinion as I do to Kim K's. I would have to admire and respect someone for their opinion to matter to me.

Stacey is best known for her role in Clueless which was 20 years ago so she isn't even current. I predict next year she'll be trying to get on Dancing with the Stars.

Just waiting for the usual response from a few of the white posters who claim to know about blacks and what we go through than I do.
 

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"Obama's going to come out in this case [viz., the next debate] much more forcefully, and he's going to throw a lot of spears." --Mark Sanford, former governor of South Carolina, on Fox News, 14 October 2012 (source).

Hey, anybody can throw a spear, right? Just as anybody can wear a bone through his nose. So there's nothing racist in that comment, right? He's just using an innocent figure of speech, right?
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The right are trying to inject race into the dialogue in this campaign. To engage in race baiting. That's why they have dug up these ancient videos of Obama making statements re. Katrina victims, which at the time was the prevailing opinion of the government's response to the catastrophe and at the time quite widely acknowledged.

There is noting else for them to dig up. Try as they did to get him to "bite", Obama always rose above all the rhetoric, name calling, and bigotry... didn't even bring up the 47% remark of Romney's during the debate.

Though there are racists aplenty on both sides of the aisle, THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IS NOT ABOUT RACE.

It is literally a class warfare:

It is about the Republican's holding the rest of America hostage while they protect the interest of the richest among us

about the middle class carrying the burden and making most of the sacrifices while corporate America pays relatively little or nothing of their fair share

it's about whether women have the right to make their own decisions about family

about whether one religion will govern laws affecting people of many faiths and beliefs

its about the security of the the average American when it comes to health care coverage in times of need,

it's about ensuring the availability of unemployment benefits when jobs are lost for reasons beyond one's control

it's about the guarantee of receiving Medicare and Social Security benefits, benefits that we paid into

it's the rights of people of alternate lifestyles to enjoy the same liberties, freedoms, and pursuit of happiness as anyone else

it's about coooperation and agreement between nations with a clear headed vision of achieving goals toward peace - as opposed to a "shoot from the hip" mentality toward the rest of the world

it's about a worker's right to engage in collective bargaining when a company or organization begins to engage in unfair labor practices

it's about a woman's right to earn the same pay as her male counterpart

It's about whether we are going to do the RIGHT thing, or whether HATE is going to become the law of the land.
 
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It's about Socialism, got it.

There are many, many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them. I'm interested in which aspect or aspects of Socialism you're referring to, and correct me if I'm mistaken, but I sense your post is not purporting a positive feeling towards Socialism. Looking forward to your clarification and reply.
 

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I'm talking about letting the government take over of business and people.

Okay...fine, nice deflection, but that's a completely different topic. I asked you to clarify which form or forms of socialism you were referring to and to explain your objections.
 
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MSNBC Host Touré: The GOP Is an ‘All White Party’ That Is ‘Hostile to Blacks, Gays, Women and Hispanics’ | Video | TheBlaze.com

MSNBC's Ed Schultz, Michael Eric Dyson Pull Race Card to Explain Weak Obama Debate Performance | NewsBusters.org

Truly disgusting stuff from the left. Michael Eric Dyson is the biggest joke of them all, but only because the woman in Toure's clip is a nobody.

In one clip we've got Toure being blatantly racist, with his female counterpart literally wishing death upon Allen West.

To levy these accusations against the entire party would be like me claiming the Democratic Party is anti-baby, anti-Israel, and anti-Capitalism, simply because some in the party share those sentiments. It's nonsense, and these umbrella statements are awful.

With M.E.D. we've got him excusing Obama's poor performance because he was shackled by the chains of race. This is the one that I find even more outrageous.

Yes, there is undeniably racists in the Republican Party. I don't think anyone would honestly disagree with that. But, do we really think these racist (degree of extremism notwithstanding) voters are undecided? No, they're going to vote anti-Obama more so than anything, simply because he's a black man. So Obama would have completely disregarded these votes, as there is no degree of how much you can lose a vote by...you simply don't get said individual's vote.

So, what we are left with is Obama needing to appeal to the undecided voters, most of whom would align near the middle, or very close to it. These are not people anyone would accuse of voting based on race, so why would he need to "soften" his blackness in order to appeal to them? The clear answer is he wouldn't.

I find these examples to be truly despicable, and a driving force of race based division. I would hope (though never expect), a Liberal supporter on these threads to disavow what is being said in these clips, and call it out for the trash that it is.

This Liberal is unable to agree with the OP.

I will acknowledge there was a certain amount of hyperbole, but it goes with the territory. Overall, the accusations seem to be representative of the actions of the current Republican proposed and/or passed legislation. As well as its embracing the Tea Party, who has been clear and consistent about its perception of President Obama. All of this to the point that moderate Republicans are vilified by their own party and replaced in primaries or resign from frustration.

Having seen what was said about VP Biden, it is not hard to believe that "angry black man" is exactly what the left would have said about President Obama had he been more aggressive.

As for swaying voter opinion. If Romney's bald face, 180 degree turn around can be hailed as "winning" and increase his poll stats, why couldn't "angry" President Obama perception decrease his poll results?
 

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I love hearing how american people define socialism. 7 out 10 (and that's being generous) have no idea what socialism is, but they know it's bad. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, corporate welfare, farm subsidies, public libraries, pell grants, the fire department, the police department, the army, the navy, the marines, the air force, the national guard, National Parks services, on and on and on.

Remember the "Keep your government hands off my medicare" guy? 40% of people who use medicare say they have never used a government program. Last year I met a guy who heard me and a friend talking about the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) and he said "Hey I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me out? NO!"

There is socialism in america and if it was taken away you'd run screaming to the Canadian border. We love Socialism. The problem is that when you say socialism the idea that pops into the minds of those 7 out of 10 is closer to communism. Like the government is going to kick down your door and make you work in a field somewhere. Socialist aren't against private industry making a profit, but there are some things that simply should not be a for profit business.