Rachel Maddow vs. Jon Stewart

Discussion in 'Politics' started by B_VinylBoy, Nov 11, 2010.

  1. B_VinylBoy

    B_VinylBoy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2007
    Messages:
    10,516
    Likes Received:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Boston, MA / New York, NY
    Is anyone watching this? It's on right now and it's REALLY good. Jon is giving pretty honest critiques with 24 hour news stations... at least here in the United States.

    More when the show is over. :wink:
     
  2. DevonTexas

    DevonTexas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    853
    Albums:
    5
    Likes Received:
    863
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dallas (TX, US)
    On MSNBC?
     
  3. DevonTexas

    DevonTexas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    853
    Albums:
    5
    Likes Received:
    863
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dallas (TX, US)
    Watched it (sorry, I rarely watch TV, so had to find it). Stewart was pretty see-through, honest and even though he leaned left on his opinions, he was straightforward, intelligent and had common sense about specific topics. I like that he bleaches the 'liberal / conservative' crap that too many people latch onto. He is a fair and balanced dude. Rachel Maddow needs to pay attention and get some education.

    I lean towards conservative, but he's my favorite liberal.
     
  4. B_RedDude

    B_RedDude New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2007
    Messages:
    2,031
    Likes Received:
    1
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    California
    She has a doctorate in politics from Oxford.
     
  5. B_VinylBoy

    B_VinylBoy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2007
    Messages:
    10,516
    Likes Received:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Boston, MA / New York, NY
    Kinda funny how you tout about the supposed uneducated state of Maddow, when the man you consider to be your "favorite liberal" has much more in common ideologically with Maddow than you think. Stewart really respects Maddow for her journalistic integrity and her approach towards news, and he's stated this on various levels in the interview. Apparently, she's not as stupid as you think.

    Besides, it wasn't that long ago that many conservatives on this board considered Jon Stewart to be another biased, loudmouth liberal. But now that he's critiquing MSNBC (if ever so gently), all of a sudden he's "see-through and honest". They're going to do a replay of this interview later tonight. I'd advise you to watch it from the beginning and listen to the ENTIRE interview.
     
  6. D_Gunther Snotpole

    D_Gunther Snotpole Account Disabled

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2005
    Messages:
    14,610
    Likes Received:
    5
    And she got to Oxford on a Rhodes Scholarship.
     
  7. Phil Ayesho

    Gold Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2008
    Messages:
    5,593
    Likes Received:
    883
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    San Diego
    Rachel Maddow Knows more about politics and policy and economics than the entire republican party collectively.
    She is civil, intelligent, well informed and utterly unafraid to confront idiocy with facts and figures.
    hell of a woman... too bad for me she's gay... ( speaking strictly as a guy who would go after a woman like her... )


    Jon Stewart is the most trusted man in television because he is an equal opportunity ridiculer.
    Although VERY liberal... he is more than willing to point out the faults and fumbles of the democrats at every chance.

    ( Conservative pundits seem incapable of critiquing their own team )

    But Stewart, right now... is really the only one who is actually informing the American people. He shoot at both targets... and so illuminates the reasonable middle... which is where we should all be, without demonizing each other.
     
  8. B_VinylBoy

    B_VinylBoy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2007
    Messages:
    10,516
    Likes Received:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Boston, MA / New York, NY
    Welcome back, Phil Ayesho. :wink:
     
  9. B_24065

    B_24065 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2006
    Messages:
    651
    Likes Received:
    1
    I saw about 10 minutes of it. Stewart is obviously a Liberal but he uses satire rather than bomb throwing to entertain his viewers. Like stewart said, 24 hour news coverage is dependent on entertainment value. And MSNBC and FOX entertain by throwing Bombs and red meat to their viewers. This, i think is what Stewart has a real problem with, both from the right and left. Information has become comodified, and is tailored to "appeal" to a certain audience.
     
  10. B_24065

    B_24065 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2006
    Messages:
    651
    Likes Received:
    1
    Funny how you put this at the end of a post where at the beginning you are insulting those to the right of you.
     
  11. B_VinylBoy

    B_VinylBoy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2007
    Messages:
    10,516
    Likes Received:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Boston, MA / New York, NY
    Given your track record around here, Mr. Boones Mill, Virginia, I don't think you want to make that a thesis for your argument.
     
  12. B_24065

    B_24065 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2006
    Messages:
    651
    Likes Received:
    1
    Oh, and I never would! Just pointling out the irony of phils post. and I think it's hillarious that you guys think you got the "24065' figured out.
     
  13. B_VinylBoy

    B_VinylBoy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2007
    Messages:
    10,516
    Likes Received:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Boston, MA / New York, NY
    First off, it's not "you guys"... it's just me. It's actually really funny when someone who has an ideological difference than yourself, you're quick to write it off as being "you guys" instead of making it about the one person who is questioning it. Also, I really couldn't care less where you came from. Then again, most people don't use a recognizable zip code as a username. But I digress, of course..

    This interview between Maddow & Stewart was very thought provoking with many valid points being made on both sides about the state of 24 hour news channels. Yet the only things I've seen from the few non-Liberals on this thread are attacks on Rachel Maddow's intelligence and the supposed irony of someone making a statement that attacks conservatives. Did you actually see the interview? if not, the replay is airing right now.
     
  14. B_24065

    B_24065 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2006
    Messages:
    651
    Likes Received:
    1
    First of All, You are NOT the first one on here to make speculations about 24065.

    Secondly, you ignored my first post on this thread which did address the subject of their interview. And Im a non-liberal and I did not insult Maddows intelligence.
     
  15. B_VinylBoy

    B_VinylBoy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2007
    Messages:
    10,516
    Likes Received:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Boston, MA / New York, NY
    Like I care? It was nothing more than one of my usual sarcastic swipes. If you're not brave enough to disclose any piece of who you are on a board where you want to be taken seriously, then nobody really cares what your moniker stands for. Don't start speaking about yourself in third person because of this silly incident.

    Just because I didn't quote/respond to it doesn't mean that I ignored it.

    Which is why I said the "few non-Liberals" and not just you. Unlike some people, I do try to pay attention to context when I type. And to be honest, you didn't insult Maddow in this thread. But I digress, of course.
     
  16. B_VinylBoy

    B_VinylBoy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2007
    Messages:
    10,516
    Likes Received:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Boston, MA / New York, NY
    For anyone who missed the interview, the uncut version is online.
    The Maddow Blog
     
  17. B_New End

    B_New End New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2007
    Messages:
    3,029
    Likes Received:
    3
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    WA
    how's life as a black man in America, 24065? :haha:
     
  18. DevonTexas

    DevonTexas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    853
    Albums:
    5
    Likes Received:
    863
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dallas (TX, US)
    Maddow falls into that group who throw people either in the left box or the right box. That's what the earlier comment was about. In fact, she kept defending herself to John, IE: "I don't do that on my show".. (oh yes you do Rachel).

    At least Stewart makes statements about genuine issues and facts. I like that in a conservative OR a liberal. The 24 hour news is dumbing down America on both sides of the political spectrum and all of us in-between by continuing to brush people as either liberals or conservatives and then just speaking badly about them as being 'retards', 'socialists', 'baggers', etc.

    Issues and problems in our life are far too complicated for this simplistic school-yard mentality. But oh yeah, there's the ratings factor. :rolleyes:
     
  19. DevonTexas

    DevonTexas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    853
    Albums:
    5
    Likes Received:
    863
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Dallas (TX, US)
    Oh, and the Rhodes Scholar thing. Yes, she is smart; just not as polished as Stewart. Speaking of..., Senator Dick Lugar is a RS, but I'm sure no one here would call him very smart (since he's a Republican).
     
  20. B_VinylBoy

    B_VinylBoy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2007
    Messages:
    10,516
    Likes Received:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Boston, MA / New York, NY
    Stewart has been in the entertainment game a lot longer than Rachel Maddow. Her show has only been on the air for two years to Stewart's 12+ as host of "The Daily Show" (never mind his hosting days on MTV in the 80s & early 90s). Having an on-air polish is something you can't learn in school... that just comes with being on camera a lot. On top of that, being a comedian and a satirist Stewart is in a viable position where he can be critical and funny where most journalists cannot tread without certain consequences. That was discussed in much more detail in the interview.

    Also, why do you always discredit yourself with things like the Dick Lugar comment? :rolleyes:
    With your logic, most people on this board would also hate Colin Powell but they don't. And last time I checked, he's still a Republican (even though he supported Obama in 2008 over McCain/Palin).
     
    #20 B_VinylBoy, Nov 12, 2010
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2010
Draft saved Draft deleted