First. Dr. D. Fighting racist ideology with another racist idiology won't do anything but make all racist idology worse. As a white liberal male I resent your statement that under my breath I am calling you and other black males niggers. That is not fair of you to judge me that way. I do not call black people niggers. As a teacher, I was quick to punish students that used that word. I had more black students use teh word than white students. Interesting. Some of the black students said the word nigger was OK to use if a black person said it, but not a white person. I said that is fine at your house. But that word will not be used in my classroom period. And the consequences were the same as using any other forbidden word.
All this talk about race is just debate. After all what is a word? It has a definition. And who gives the definition. So scientists have one definition and social studies has a different definition. That is life. The word race also means a contest to see you can run or something the fastest. So who amongst us has the authority to limit the definition of race? No one.
For the record, there was a time when there were only about 100,000 people here on earth. It is my personal believe that all of us have some common ancesters within the past 100,000 years. And that most of us have common ancestors within the last 10,000 years.
Jon TX. People are not dogs. Dogs are animals that we breed. It is possible to breed people. We could breed people according to race. It is possible to inventory people and steriolize everyone with certain diseases or have the genes to get those diseases before puberty. It is possible to breed people with certain skills such as good athletes, natural musicians. good scientist etc.
But our civilization is based on two people falling in love and either living together or getting married. When it is a heterosexual relationship, children are likely to be a result. So your aruguments are wasted concerning mxing races or not mixing races. You piss people off with those kind of statements. And they are worthless because it would take a constitutional amendment to do what you are suggesting. What you suggest is strictly hypothetical. There is no way that we will have a law in the United States that says that people must marry people of the same race for breeding purposes. Even if your arguments are correct and valid. They are not going to happen.
Welcome back. Get everyone to welcome you back by dropping arguments that can't legally happen, but piss people off. Stick to debate abouit things that are legally possible. It would also help if those arguments are for things that people would actually consider and do.
Jon TX, you are an outstanding debater. Find another angle on this whole subject to debate.
A hot topic to debate is whether mothers should be required to have a test in early pregancy to see if the fetus is carrying certain genes that lead to heritary disease. If so should the mother be required or allowed to abort the fetus to purify the human species of heritary disease over a period of several generations. Now that would get people going. Would it make humans a stronger species? Maybe. We have breed dogs extensively. And the very pure breed dogs are usually high strung and tend to be more fragile, especially the smaller dogs. Yet the smaller dogs usally live longer. So what would selective breeding do to human beings? We know that legally it won't happen, but it is interesting to disucss what effect that would have. However, once that subject has been discussed it will be time to MOVE on. No need to beat a specific subject to death.
CanTee, Thanks for considering me, a white male, as your equal, not someone to hate, not someone above or below you, just another human being that you like or don't like based on my beliefs and my personality, not my eye color, height, skin color, ancestry or any of those things.
Yes, I have ancestors that didn't do black people right. They are guilty. They are also dead. I have no problem condemning the behavior of what white people did. I also have no problem condemning what some of the black people did in Africa. There were wars between different groups in Africa. The groups that lost the war became black slaves to black people and the black kings sold the conquored black people to slavery. That was wrong. And the white nobles in Europe had serfs which were white people. The serfs belonged to the land instead of to a person. Other than that they were treated just like slaves. They were owned. They had no freedom.
None of the preceeding paragraph was right. But humans of every color and race have been good people and people of every color and race have abused other people. When that happens it be condemend. And those who aren't willing to publically denounce such behavior are part of the problem, not part of the solotiion.
Yet out of those wrong actions that occurred up until the Civl War in 1861-1865 came a society today where black people livng today in America have the highest standard of livng of any black people in the world. That is true for nearly every ethnic group. The black cousins in Africa don't come close to having what their distant cousins in America have.
Dr. D, please accept the apologies of white males who are living for the actions of white males who were from a different time and are not longer living. Please accept the friendships of those of us who are willing to speak up and denounce racism and discrimination. Be aware that there is only so much we can do. I am a retired teacher. I did what I could do. I was highly respected in the black community. I don't want to brag, but I have to in order to make a point. I was the favorite teacher among the black community because I really did treat everyone in my classroom the same. I asked students after they left my room what was the thing they liked best about me. The answer is nearly always, "You were fair to everyone." And the second was, "You showed respect to the students and treated us like people, not a group to control."
I personally look forward to the day when skin color will be treated no different then height, color or eyes, color of hair, etc. I think we are several decades away from that, but I think it will happen.
I didn't teach discrimination and my boys integrated our church with their black friends. Some didn't have a ride and I picked up some black boys myself to take to church. There was not a negative word said about integrating our church. My boys didn't even ask if it was OK. They did the inviting on their own. I am proud of them.
If I were in your shoes, I might feel the same way. But please accept the friendship of those of us who don't show prejudice toward you. But hey, I would still be angry at the ones who still discriminate in what ever manner they do.
Dr. D, I offer my hand of friendship to you.
CanTee thanks for your good posts.
Jon TX thanks for coming back. Pm me or e-mail me and let me know how you are doing.
