Radical feminists: the stupidest people on the planet?

[Tattooed Goddess]

The women on that website have said some surprisingly horrible things about men, no doubt about that, but when *some* of them are quote in context to what they are responding to, they are simply meeting absurdity with absurdity. A way to end an extreme by posing an equally and opposite extreme reaction.

People have been doing far worse (in real life and not just in ideas that haven't been made legal or socially acceptable) for many hundreds of years to little girls and women across this planet. Why aren't enough people up in arms about that?

I'd rather be labeled a raging feminist than to feed into what people would prefer women to be like historically. And radical is a relative term. Not too long ago a woman who wanted to vote or wear pants was considered radical. Your Grandfathers would have been complaining about that. Smoking in public was considered too bold. That was a masculine ability.

What more proof is there that men have control over this planet by a margin when in 2011, some countries are at a loss for female counterparts for their males because killing your daughter was not wrong and actually seen as a plus. Women are being held to a standard of conduct in other cultures that no man would tolerate if the tables were turned.

There is no doubt something wrong with some of the philosophies being brought up at that website. But they are getting their ideas from a world-wide philosophy that has been allowed to be perpetrated on women since the beginning of time. Why doesn't that upset you more?

When a man is being stoned to death for "appearing" to be more sexual than he should have been by the female elders of a community, when a man is being forced to marry his rapist or is put to death because he had sex before marriage....when men are actually being tortured in the worst ways possible by women in the real world in large numbers....then you can truly have something to be worried about.

The hold that men have on society and law as a whole would prevent any of that from EVER happening to other men. Men protect men more than women have been allowed to protect other women. I could come up with so many videos of proof of this maltreatment of women that have been happening since the advent of the video camera and the internet to be uploaded that it would make your stomach turn for days. Can you provide me with much of the same that is happening to men?

Or is it that you fear women could possibly come close to the atrocities that men have been known to do? I would probably fear that if I knew the opposite sex had so many reasons to do it as a form of payback. Lord knows, men have done plenty to deserve that payback and they are lucky so many women keep their cool when they are faced with what truths are out there about it all.

I've studied serial killers for so many years that I can tell you that your chances of any of what those women are talking about will be acted upon in large enough numbers to make a difference in your world is not very probable. The male and female brain are so different when it comes to some of that. They are simply expressing just how angry they are and are using harsh words to do so. I'd never think some of that in my lifetime. But when I went back and read more screenshots, you could see how some of them were isolated comments on that website you linked to but weren't isolated at all when you read what they were posting to.

Like mentioning that the kid who was 9 years old who said he would rape his peer if she didn't love him, the lady responding to that said he was a future rapist. Not because he is a man, but because he said he would rape. I see no harm in calling boys who talk like this future rapists. Do you?

 

[Smaccoms]

I thought the most stupid people in the world were the creationists? (Family Guy anyone?)

 

[B_Hickboy]

I thought the most stupid people in the world were the creationists? (Family Guy anyone?)

There are people stupider than creationists, and if you can't see that you're probably one of them.

 

[B_quiet_man]

People have been doing far worse (in real life and not just in ideas that haven't been made legal or socially acceptable) for many hundreds of years to little girls and women across this planet. Why aren't enough people up in arms about that?

Well, actually, I thought people WERE up in arms about it - because it's obviously wrong. I've never heard anyone say how great it is that girls are being killed in china, for example (and it is the only example that I know of). However, the wymin on Rad Fem ARE talking about how great it is that male children are being killed at birth in papua new guinea, and lamenting that the same cannot be done here, and all over the world. In other places, they also endorse the abortion of male foetuses, and the neglect or banishment of male children - so they starve to death through lack of care.

MR, when you were a little girl, weren't you told that two wrongs don't make a right?

Don't you see the hypocrisy - that by advocating the killing of boys, they are not counter-acting any wrong doing that has afflicted girls, but in fact justifying it? Their attitude is not one of stopping female infanticide, but literally celebrating and endorsing male infanticide. Infanticide, therefore, is okay, according to them - and you think that's a valid position. I disagree.

 

[Smaccoms]

There are people stupider than creationists, and if you can't see that you're probably one of them.

dude, it was a fucking off hand comment, wtf?

 

[B_Hickboy]

dude, it was a fucking off hand comment, wtf?

Oh, sorry. I had no way of knowing you didn't mean it.

 

[Smaccoms]

Oh, sorry. I had no way of knowing you didn't mean it.

I should have clarified. I suppose I thought the drastic difference between the format of this comment versus my others would have made it clear. That was a little foolish on my part.

 

[B_Hickboy]

I should have clarified. I suppose I thought the drastic difference between the format of this comment versus my others would have made it clear. That was a little foolish on my part.

Well, then. Maybe you aren't stupider than a creationist.

 

[aninnymouse]

The problem that I have with a lot of the Radical Feminist rhetoric, especially the rhetoric of the more rabid, man hating "a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle, " and "being male is a disease, and aberration, so let's kill all the men to breed out this disease" stripe is that it IS too close to what so many men have done to women for millenia, and what is still going on now. Especially because, even in western culture, enlightened thinking about women, femininity, and female roles is still in the stone age in many respects.

Tit for tat never solved anything. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Hate is still hate, no matter if it's coming from the population that's been oppressed for centuries.

 

[B_quiet_man]

Tit for tat never solved anything. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Hate is still hate, no matter if it's coming from the population that's been oppressed for centuries.

Indeed, and it's worth mentioning that it is only feminist rhetoric itself which insists that only females have been oppressed for centuries. In many cases, the reverse is true, with females being protected and privileged, whilst men and boys are sent to die in wars, in mines, and in other lethal environments, in order to keep women safe.

Feminists have deliberately attempted to hide these kinds of facts, in order to peddle the victim mentality that makes women angry, and resort to the false "tit for tat" mentality. NEVER has any male advocated the wholesale slaughter of female children, or the reduction of females to 10% of the population (or less), as the radical feminists advocate for males and male children.

Even today, around 100% or work related fatalities are male, 80% of suicides are male, and 90% of the homeless are male. These kind of inequalities are ignored by feminists, and celebrated by the radicals.

 

[MelbourneGirl]

I'd rather be labeled a raging feminist than to feed into what people would prefer women to be like historically. And radical is a relative term. Not too long ago a woman who wanted to vote or wear pants was considered radical. Your Grandfathers would have been complaining about that. Smoking in public was considered too bold. That was a masculine ability.

What more proof is there that men have control over this planet by a margin when in 2011, some countries are at a loss for female counterparts for their males because killing your daughter was not wrong and actually seen as a plus. Women are being held to a standard of conduct in other cultures that no man would tolerate if the tables were turned.

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When a man is being stoned to death for "appearing" to be more sexual than he should have been by the female elders of a community, when a man is being forced to marry his rapist or is put to death because he had sex before marriage....when men are actually being tortured in the worst ways possible by women in the real world in large numbers....then you can truly have something to be worried about.

The hold that men have on society and law as a whole would prevent any of that from EVER happening to other men. Men protect men more than women have been allowed to protect other women. I could come up with so many videos of proof of this maltreatment of women that have been happening since the advent of the video camera and the internet to be uploaded that it would make your stomach turn for days. Can you provide me with much of the same that is happening to men?
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Like mentioning that the kid who was 9 years old who said he would rape his peer if she didn't love him, the lady responding to that said he was a future rapist. Not because he is a man, but because he said he would rape. I see no harm in calling boys who talk like this future rapists. Do you?

What an articulate, intelligent post, MR. Thank you!

How about we competently deal with the notion of equal pay, then we can return to the discussion of 'radical feminists'. For while a woman's equal effort still does not bring about equal reward, any other debate about how feminism has gone too far is surely academic, is it not?

 

[helgaleena]

Hmm, what do we prefer-- overpopulation leading to famine, pestilence and dehumanization of an underclass, birth control, constant warfare, or infanticide? Gee, I'm having trouble choosing. How about all the terminally stupid people drop dead of their own idiocy in the meantime?

Fear not, it's just the Sith side of Helga getting a say before New Years.

 

[B_quiet_man]

How about we competently deal with the notion of equal pay, then we can return to the discussion of 'radical feminists'. For while a woman's equal effort still does not bring about equal reward

You're a little behind the times. Equal pay is done and dusted. Women under 30 OUT earn men of the same age. It's been that way for quite a while now.

Young women are now earning more than men

any other debate about how feminism has gone too far is surely academic, is it not?

You don't think celebrating the killing of male children at birth is going too far?

 

[B_quiet_man]

I can tell you that your chances of any of what those women are talking about will be acted upon in LARGE ENOUGH NUMBERS to make a difference in your world is not very probable.

(emphasis mine)

At least one of the women commenting on that site was involved in child care. Are you saying that if, through vindictiveness or neglect, she only kills a few male children, then that's okay?

They are simply expressing just how angry they are and are using harsh words to do so.

So according to you, when grown women - some in positions of responsibility caring for children - expresses a desire to kill male children, it's all perfectly understandable and excusable, because their little hate-filled ideology made them angry....

Like mentioning that the kid who was 9 years old who said he would rape his peer if she didn't love him, the lady responding to that said he was a future rapist. Not because he is a man, but because he said he would rape. I see no harm in calling boys who talk like this future rapists. Do you?

... and when a 9 year old boy says he will rape a girl that has been teasing him, you take this as a serious and intended threat!

You have just said that when an adult female says that she intends harm, she doesn't really mean it, and so she is absolved any responsibility; but when a 9 year old boy says he intends harm, then he is in your view already guilty!

You are denying the fully grown women the same culpability as you expect from a 9 year old boy!

If ever proof were needed that feminists have double standards!

 

[MelbourneGirl]

You're a little behind the times. Equal pay is done and dusted. Women under 30 OUT earn men of the same age. It's been that way for quite a while now.

Young women are now earning more than men

Did you read the subtitle and rest of the article? "Yep, there is greater equality between the sexes, but overall, the pay gap continues to favour men" (my emphasis)..

....Men who work full time still earn 9% more than women overall, hardly suggestive of being chucked on the scrapheap – any more than the existence of a measly five female cabinet ministers (outnumbered five to one by men) really spells matriarchy."

Certainly in Australia we haven't reached pay equality. Although the numbers vary according to what source is cited, 18% seems to be the difference most used in official government reports. Not good enough.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

Indeed, and it's worth mentioning that it is only feminist rhetoric itself which insists that only females have been oppressed for centuries. In many cases, the reverse is true, with females being protected and privileged, whilst men and boys are sent to die in wars, in mines, and in other lethal environments, in order to keep women safe.

Feminists have deliberately attempted to hide these kinds of facts, in order to peddle the victim mentality that makes women angry, and resort to the false "tit for tat" mentality. NEVER has any male advocated the wholesale slaughter of female children, or the reduction of females to 10% of the population (or less), as the radical feminists advocate for males and male children.

Even today, around 100% or work related fatalities are male, 80% of suicides are male, and 90% of the homeless are male. These kind of inequalities are ignored by feminists, and celebrated by the radicals.

All of that is related to testosterone effects on the brain and goes into the category of how women are not serial killers at the rate that men are. Because their brains are so different. You, sir, are an idiot and embarrass your gender. You mask your stupidity with big words and citing articles that support your agenda. In the mean time would you like some links to women being tortured and killed and it being fully supported by their male dominated culture? In supposed "civilized" societies?

Stop giving me crap to read. No one is buying it but gullible saps like yourself.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

(emphasis mine)

At least one of the women commenting on that site was involved in child care. Are you saying that if, through vindictiveness or neglect, she only kills a few male children, then that's okay?

She called him a future rapist because at 9 years old he is saying he is going to rape a fellow classmate who doesn't love him.

I'd trust her to watch my children- male or female. I don't favor a male child over a female child in my book.

I didn't see her say that all male children should be killed. Can you point that out to me? Because I read that he was a danger to society like all other rapists who don't see rape as wrong. When you are 9 years old and say "If you don't love me I will rape you" that is the boy more than teasing the girl, not a childish response to being teased by a girl. Go back and reread it.


So according to you, when grown women - some in positions of responsibility caring for children - expresses a desire to kill male children, it's all perfectly understandable and excusable, because their little hate-filled ideology made them angry....

Please, point out to me where she says she will kill male children if given the opportunity. She is and would probably kill less male children than say a socio/psychopath like John Wayne Gacy. What this means is that I don't think she is saying kill all male children, I could have sworn I saw the lady who was the art director at a university say that, but not the one who works in childcare. You might be mixing your feminists together.


... and when a 9 year old boy says he will rape a girl that has been teasing him, you take this as a serious and intended threat!

Actually, I do. When the mindset of raping being ok is established, sociopathy fosters that mindset and will gladly live it out and likely will never be changed. I'd rather err on the side of caution. While you are worrying about your boys being exposed to a childcare specialist who says that boys who say they are going to rape little girls should be looked at as potential future rapists, you are up in arms about it. When a boy might be giving HUGE red flags that he will rape a girls/women later in life when he is physically able....well that's ok...it's simply just a response to a girl teasing him.

You have just said that when an adult female says that she intends harm, she doesn't really mean it, and so she is absolved any responsibility; but when a 9 year old boy says he intends harm, then he is in your view already guilty!

Did you know what children under the age of 1 year are most likely to die in the hands of their mother? I actually have studied this stuff. Women are not entirely unlike to do harm to children. But sociopathy and mental illness are the culprits for this happening mostly to their own offspring and not others. What I'm trying to say is that women are more likely to kill their own children (male or female) than any one elses children.

So feminists aren't easily going to be signing up for the rights to kill baby boys that other people have birthed.

But when society says it's ok, you might be surprised just how many might actually do it now that I think about it. Because midwives are doing it all the time in other countries because the offspring is female.

You are denying the fully grown women the same culpability as you expect from a 9 year old boy!

These women are hoping to rape men?
These women are hoping the men will be raped later?
These women are telling men they will rape them if they aren't loved by them?

If ever proof were needed that feminists have double standards!

You see, I was raised in a conservative extremely religious right wing family in the southern US. If I ever know how much I should hate feminism, I probably know it more than you. I was raised to believe anyone who believed in the feminist cause was an ugly, mustache sporting, saggy breasted woman who just couldn't get a man to love her. Boy was I ever wrong. I proudly call myself a feminist today. In fact, it's only been over the last couple of years that I've turned into one. Mainly after seeing how many real life situations out there SCREAM for help from the feminist cause. I really truly am not out to make your life as a man easier, nor am I out to make the plight of men harder. But when women are treated as equal, there are many men who will find it harder because their bullshit won't be tolerated and they might have to work harder to keep up.

I am not called to fight the battle you are. I will leave it up to men like you to do that. I'd rather be fighting my cause for female equality than to be bitching that a few men here and there around the planet are suffering at the hands of women. I have a bigger war on my hands than you do.

I will wear the feminist badge. I will wear the radical feminist badge. Radical is relative. I am radical to some because I am proud of my own body and not afraid to show it.

You see, I prefer the company of men any day to the company of women. A woman has to work a lot harder in my book to get respect. I come from this argument from many different vantage points that you don't. Not many woman-hating men would prefer the company of women other than to use them sexually or abuse them in some way. I actually value the presence of men in my life. I choose to surround myself with them probably on a 10/1 ratio if not more. It's a deliberate choice.

After all that I've read, you just look like a whiner to me. All of your posts sound like this. You are a one-note poster with complaints about how down-trodden men are thanks to those mean women!

 

[B_quiet_man]

MR, my dear, you have now resorted to calling me "an idiot", and yet I have successfully and consistently demolished your ill informed and logically flawed arguments here, such as pointing out, as I did earlier, that in your feeble opinion, you hold a 9 year old boy MORE accountable for the things he says than a fully grown, radical feminist woman who would like to see him dead.

To refer this back to OP's original question, you are not doing a very good job of demonstrating that Radical Feminists - of which I now assume you as being - are not, indeed, the stupidest people on the planet. :smile:

 

[B_quiet_man]

You just look like a whiner to me.

Right back atcha, cupcake!

By which I mean - in case you don't understand sweetie - that Radical Feminists are themselves in fact the BIGGEST whiners on the planet, peddling their never-ending victim mentality to the absolute fullest, and using it to stir up resentment and hatred in western middle class, well educated women, who are, most likely, the most privileged human beings ever to have lived.

So you endorse their views on the killing of male children, and see it as justified. That alone speaks absolute VOLUMES as to explain your behaviour on this site.

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

Right back atcha, cupcake!

By which I mean - in case you don't understand sweetie - that Radical Feminists are themselves in fact the BIGGEST whiners on the planet, peddling their never-ending victim mentality to the absolute fullest, and using it to stir up resentment and hatred in western middle class, well educated women, who are, most likely, the most privileged human beings ever to have lived.

So you endorse their views on the killing of male children, and see it as justified. That alone speaks absolute VOLUMES as to explain your behaviour on this site.

Go back and reread my post, i had to edit typos and add more fun to the party. My behavior on this site? Please elaborate. I'd like to think no one would kill children based on their gender. You have no idea how hard I've had to swim upstream from my beliefs to even agree that abortion should be legal in the last couple of years. But since you don't know me personally or for very long, you wouldn't know that at all.

I'd rather people just use birth control and not have any children than to hate a gender (male or female) so much that they would kill the child/baby/fetus based on that alone.

I agree with your line about the Western world being the most privileged of all women and have the least to complain about but often complain the most. I couldn't agree more about that. I just wish that all that energy could be harnessed and used for a greater good where it is needed the most. Maybe that is the problem, we aren't able to get anywhere in the societies where it is needed most so they are spinning their wheels where they live.

I don't have many complaints, if any, about what my rights are here where I live. But I watch a lot about what goes on in other parts of the world and it bothers me greatly that I can't do anything about it. I encourage you to watch The Stoning of Saraya M. And A Walk To Beautiful which can be seen for free on PBS website here http://video.pbs.org/video/980049841/

Those are the concerns that I have. Whether or not some guy calls me sweetie or cupcake doesn't bother me in the least. Feminists come in all shades don't they?