Random Political Thoughts

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congratulations
Australian Labour Party ALP
resurgence,even if you dont get to rule huh
the people/workers have spoken
almost/maybe have defeated the liberals/cnservatives/repiblicans ha

ironically NZs
ruling National govt,liberals/cnservatives/repiblicans last 8 years,thats OK you work with what youve got,take note UK/Eu ha,,currently our labour partys crap big time huh ..

Election 2016: Coalition loses seats but neither side can claim victory

A final result in the federal election is not expected for days.

At midnight AEST, the Coalition was on track to win 73 seats, Labor had 66, the Greens and Xenophon Team had one each and there were three independents, with six seats in doubt. Pre-poll and postal votes will now be crucial to determining the final result.

Malcolm Turnbull has said he is still confident the Coalition will win a majority, but Bill Shorten has said the Coalition has lost its mandate.

Thousands take to London's streets in pro-EU protest

Published on Jul 2, 2016
Thousands have protested in London against British voters' decision last week to leave the European Union, which has left the country deeply polarised.

The city voted overwhelmingly to remain in the European Union. The "March for Europe" rally comes as four million people sign a petition demanding a second referendum.

Barnaby Phillips reports from Westminster in central London

 

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getting bloody ridiculous you Brits, thinking/expecting you can or have the right to change your own self made rules to suit some of you

the cotinued nonsense deems wonders for your woderful democracy
all your politicians lie, same all over the world,why try and use that as an excuse to protest and try and get your way ..

Did the UK media help make Brexit a reality? - The Listening Post (...
On The Listening Post this week: Did the UK media do their job before the EU vote? Has the tone of the coverage shifted since? Plus, the coverage of solitary confinement in US.

Did British media show Brexit bias?

It has been more than a week since the UK voted to leave the European Union and the story continues to dominate the headlines. But did the British media do their job before the vote? Were the facts sufficiently covered and were broadcasters as impartial as they are required to be? And has the tone shifted now that Brexit is a reality?

Talking us through the story are: Justin Lewis, a professor of Communications, Cardiff University; Natalie Fenton, vice chair of Hacked Off and professor of Communications, Goldsmiths University; Toby Young, a journalist for Spectator; and Craig Murray, author and blogger.

On our radar

In South Africa, the state-owned broadcaster has replaced its CEO for the 10th time since President Jacob Zuma took power seven years ago.
Liliane Daoud -... (more)

and
for those that rave re trade/banking suffering ...

Beyond Brexit: What matters most to global economies - Counting the...
Last week, the European Union experienced the biggest shake up of the last few decades as Britain voted to leave the 28-nation bloc in an unprecedented move. Global markets were on a instability rollercoaster as the British pound dropped to severe lows, prompting emergency action from central banks in England, the US and the Eurozone.

The ripple effects of Brexit continue on through Europe and to the Middle East and even to China. We look at how the UK is reshaping its economy after Brexit and how the rest of the world is coping with the shift.

 

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AUSTRALIAN ELECTION DAY 2016


We don't have an election winner, so what happens now?

The election is too close to call, Antony Green says. And that raises a lot of interesting questions.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-03/election-result-what-happens-now/7564250?WT.mc_id=newsmail

 

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AUSTRALIA 4 PMs in 3 years
no major dramas ala UK/EuWORLD

but ha
get on with the job of governing, come Wednesday odd ..

Australia general election 'too close to call'

doom and gloom predictions exacftly that srt of negativity that gets people no were
not even stated with any attempt at humour there fore showing how seriously defeatist folk are
there entire worlds colapsed around them,as if there is no possible way towards a future

its exactly that srt of talk that puts a hoold on things, coouple of days after tthe event and moving on would have been sensible surely
fotunatey even some one like Camerons making that effort to move on
sense to realise he must at least try


would have thougt shithead Gove would keep his mouth shut re oie in the sky talk re AU/NZ
dont think thats helpful to your farmers at all

right man
for our PM was/is his catchCry huh,to the detriment of the British person it seems

the/a big difference with an Australian General ekection and UK Referendum
2 entitrley different aproaches,but maybe,just mayve your wonderful Westminster boffins should have gone for the GE straight off

would there be as much discontent/bitching
with whatever result

 

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Both major parties under siege as 'voter rage' takes hold

The day after the election nothing is resolved. If Malcolm Turnbull forms Government it will be with a small majority or a crossbench alliance, while the Labor party's primary vote is still at historic lows. Political editor Chris Uhlmann looks ahead at what may be waiting on the political horizon.

Election 2016: What. Just. Happened?

Australia is starting the week without a winner after Saturday's federal election delivered no result. How did we get here?

SAD
get them back to there land asap,please
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Sri Lanka: Thousands await relocation after civil war

Thousands of Tamils in northern Sri Lanka are waiting to return to their own lands seven years after the end of the civil war.

Over 40,000 Tamils have lived in so-called temporary camps for more than 26 years.

In January, President Maithripala Sirisena promised to rehouse the remaining displaced within six months.

 

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and you think the UKs got problems
of course only if the oil prices rise huh ..

Scotland will secure themselves a good Eu deal,if they manage to breakaway from the UK huh

Venezuela's oil revenues plunge sharply
you think the UKs got roblems

Published on Jul 3, 2016
Venezuela's state oil company says its revenues have fallen by forty-one percent in the past year. It follows a steep drop in global oil prices that has contributed to an economic crisis in the South American nation. The country's recession and triple-digit inflation has caused concern it may not be able to honour its large debts.

 

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- the Australian election is close because the traditional major parties did equally poorly
but
carrying on with life as per the Kiwi/Aussie way,persevere ..
he said it
GOOGLE


Australia elections: New politicians headed for Canberra

Published on Jul 4, 2016
Australian voters are still waiting to find out the overall result of their national election after voting on Saturday.
But what’s clear is that a record number of independent candidates and representatives from very small parties have been elected.
Andrew Thomas takes a look at the eclectic group of politicians Australians are sending to Canberra.

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and2
he/they said it,i am yet to read so much haha
but
looks fine DEMOCRACY,what all LOVE
but only when it suits some ..

Selected Articles: Independence Day Hypocrisy, Not Democracy

http://www.globalresearch.ca/selected-articles-independence-day-hypocrisy-not-democracy/5534203

 

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still nknown ha
i hope TURNBALLS gets kicked OUT ha!!!
creep not speaking like an Aussie PM

i prefer ALPs SHORTEN myself ha

Election 2016 live: PM takes 'full responsibility' for campaign as Labor claims he's plotting a fresh snap election

Election 2016: Vote counting resumes as Labor and Coalition face leadership scrutiny

Senior frontbencher Anthony Albanese said Labor leader Bill Shorten was best suited to negotiations with crossbench MPs.

"I think Bill Shorten is a very strong negotiator, that's one of his great strengths," Mr Albanese told 7:30.

"There's no-one better in a small room than Bill Shorten."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-...g-resumes-amid-leadership-speculation/7568562

yahooooo..

5, 2016

NYTimes.com »
Breaking News Alert
July 05, 2016

BREAKING NEWS
The NASA spacecraft Juno has reached Jupiter. It will orbit for 20 months searching for clues to the solar system's origins.
Tuesday, July 5, 2016 12:12 AM EDT
Ducking through intense belts of violent radiation as it skimmed over the clouds of Jupiter at 130,000 miles per hour, NASA’s Juno spacecraft on Monday finally clinched its spot in the orbit of the solar system’s largest planet.
It took five years for Juno to travel this far on its $1.1 billion mission, and the moment was one that NASA scientists and space enthusiasts had eagerly — and anxiously — anticipated.
At 11:53 p.m. Eastern time, a signal from the spacecraft announced the end of a 35-minute engine burn that left it in the grip of its desired orbit around Jupiter. Cheers erupted at the mission operations center at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, in Pasadena, Calif., which is managing Juno.
Read more »

 

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AUSTRALIAN ELECTION DAY 2016

still no clear govt running the show at the moment
alho it looks increasingly likely the existing Conervative govt and Turnballs will prevail ..

Live: PM takes responsibility for campaign as Labor claims he's plotting a fresh election

Bill Shorten claims the Prime Minister is considering calling a fresh election as he stares down the barrel of a hung Parliament. Follow live.

UK media: Going back on Brexit bias? - The Listening Post (Lead)

Published on Jul 5, 2016
It It has been more than a week since the UK voted to leave the EU and the story continues to dominate the headlines.

But did the British media do their job before the vote? Were the facts sufficiently covered and were broadcasters as impartial as they are required to be? And has the tone shifted now that Brexit is a reality?

Some media outlets, such as Rupert Murdoch's The Sun, were clear advocates of the 'leave' campaign, continuing to vocally support the decision post-referendum. Other outlets, however, are rethinking their headline choices. Whilst most 'leave' supporting newspapers were quick to condemn the EU not two weeks ago, many appear to have changed their tone.

Headlines warning of turbulent times and great change are now commonplace in British newsstands. So what does this mean for the vote? Was it indeed swayed by a fickle media mouthpiece?

Talking us through the story are: Justin Lewis, a professor of Communications, Cardiff University; Natalie Fenton, vice chairwoman of Hacked Off and professor of Communications, Goldsmiths University; Toby Young, a journalist for Spectator; and Craig Murray, author and blogger.

 

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What i'm about to say might be a tad bit controversial but ISIS has been insanely effective.

I can't think of any other groups or any other movement that has been able to effect this many people in this many different places for this long a time and still largely not be blamed for it. They've pushed democracies into dangerzones, forced a country to commit financial suicide, scared a nation into arming themselves with the least effective weapons imaginable, changed entire political landscapes, modified the importance of issues such that most people are intellectually running in circles, put talks on infrastructure on the back burner, caused other more developed nations to further adopt their feelings towards women and gay people and in general effected the emotional (and then intellectual) stability of just about everyone.

All of this and they weren't even responsible for 9/11. They just piggybacked on the fear that was created during that time and modified it towards their needs. They were so effective that most people would rather target words then target them. Words. The intended consequence of that is of course they get to blow up and behead as many muslims as they want to because people are too damn afraid to attack them even on an intellectual level.

For a horrible, vomit inducing group of people...that is amazing. They have other groups of people, people who pride themselves on being tough....literally shaking in their boots with mere mention of anything having to do with them. So much so that people.....countries away will rush and buy guns to protect themselves from them even when...once again...they are so far away they would have to have super powers to get to them.

No one wants to be that person in the hypothetical scary movie who trips a man, woman or child so the monster can get them instead but ISIS has done just that. People are literally throwing other people in the way of the baddy bad only for the hope that it won't catch up to them. And that is simply amazing. Once again, ISIS or the threat of or the reaction to the reaction of ISIS has ripped apart democracy, alienationed a whole group of people (while making them massively vulnerable to both recruitment and murder in the process), thrown a monkey wrench into financial plans across the globe, allowed women/gays to become even more of a target globally and categorically taken humanity's eyes off the prize of advancement period.

People now have zero trust in their governments (and military) because of ISIS but somehow trust businessmen (with little to no experience i might add). It's all utterly amazing. One group of people. One. Effected the entire world. Meanwhile that very same world generally has no clue just how afraid they are. Generally has no clue just how much of their emotions are invested in freaking out and allowing businessmen to do and say some of the dumbest shit ever recorded or seen.

That's how powerful fear is. And they weren't able to just do this. No. They were able to because that fear was already there. Fear of losing control. Fear of losing rights when that fear was unjustified. The fear of losing money. The fear of losing respect. The fear of losing a country when it isn't even possible. I know i'm just ranting here but damn..ISIS has made the world collectively shit it's pants then somehow disappear behind a vale of their victims own stupidity. And the best part. The more people advance on that fear the worse they make the situation overall. The only logical outcome on that line being all countries end up beheading people and humanity in general turns back it's own historical clocks. Suddenly being stuck in the dark ages again.

So yeah i would love nothing better than for ISIS to completely disappear from off the face of the planet but at the same time i cannot deny just how grandiosely effective they've been in making just about every human being on this planet believe in a boogie man of one sort or another. Even when the devil is only in the details.

 

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follow up on what you were talking about ..

we dislike them but

they must be doing something incorrectly/nastily and really on the cheap huh, compared to the billions the West spend to try and contain them
keeping the Military powers in money and business??

Inside Story - Is ISIL embracing a new approach?

ISIL is yet to take responsibilty for three, seemingly coordinated suicide attacks in Saudi Arabia. The strikes on Monday at the heart of Islam rounds off a deadly holy month of Ramadan. ISIL fighters have claimed other attacks in Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Bangladesh and Iraq. So, what's the message behind the strikes?

Presenter: Richelle Carey

Guests:
Rashad Ali, Resident Senior Fellow at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue
Riad Kahwaji, Founder and General Manager of the Institute for Near East & Gulf Military Analysis
Matthew Henman, Head of the IHS Jane’s Terrorism and Insurgency Centre

 

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GREECE 9th year of recession

most unfortunate for Greece
but
i dont think the UK will suffer from this
maybe the winning BREXIT campaign will avoid such, a reliance on the Eu/IMF/WTO
not that it looked like the UK was heading that way??
or was it ..

Greeks disillusioned with austerity measures

Published on Jul 5, 2016
It’s a year since Greek voters overwhelmingly rejected austerity, and limits were put on how much people could take out of the bank. But in that time austerity measures have increased, and controls on banking remain.

Greeks say they're not just exhausted by their economic crisis, they’re disillusioned, as John Psaropoulos reports.

 

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impressed with Tony Blairs rebuttal of the

Chilcot Report into Iraq War: Letters show Blair made early invasion commitment to Bush

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe...-Blair-made-early-invasion-commitment-to-Bush

Inside Story - Could war in Iraq have been averted?
A British inquiry concludes the 2003 invasion went badly wrong, and Iraqis are still living with the consequences.
Presenter: Martine Dennis

Guests:

Nafeez Ahmed, Middle East Eye columnist.

Piers Robinson, Senior Lecturer in International Politics at the University of Manchester.

Frank Ledwidge, Senior Fellow at the Royal Air Force College at the University of Portsmouth

never really took much notice prior
was pretty much inclined to dislike him like Bush
but
his speech/taking questions galore this am, may well have given many more of what he was about huh ..
found his explanation intriguing/fascinating watchin, was rivited throut

very correct in suggesting we who dont have all the information making comment, as to those who need to make a/the decision,at that time, instant almost
decisions going by the information received

'FLAWED INTELLIGENCE'

fair judgment fair sentence me thinks
Judge Masipa worked through it all,best thing they did waslet her re-sentece him,hope the SA Judiciary accept it this time

South African Olympic runner Oscar Pistorius has been sentenced to six years in prison for murdering his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp on Valentines Day three years ago.

again
under the guise of 'discussion' political or otherwise
the dissecting of every paragraph,sentence,words meaning even
ridiculous
esp regards not moving on with any topic ha

 

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as
the US Honcho heads to that summitt,this comes out
figuring there will be backroom deals with mammoth US support promised,that we wont hear full details of huh ..

Major Cracks in NATO’s Ranks

U.S. finds Europeans not so keen to start a war with Russia in Baltics, Arctic.

By Richard Walker —

While the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) continues to taunt, bait and encircle Russia by placing missiles near Russia’s borders, major cracks have begun to appear within NATO among its member states.

http://americanfreepress.net/major-cracks-in-natos-ranks/

 

[Crimsonlurker]

And three more people dead for no reason. Once again....massively sad but thats america for you.

 

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is there really an ignorant expectation from the USA and the American piblic that we in the outside world are continually going to feel and express deep sympathy compassion remorse for your cotinued stupidity re killiongs of your citizens

who honestly gives a F,if theyre black or white,what there employment is

no attempts being made to curbn it,so youve lost thge right for any sympathy i am not afraid to say
and forget about trying to accuse such talkl of being cold blooded
you are the devils of humanity who are ignorantly cold blooded ..


good for them MODI INDIA/UK soon yes .. ha

Indian PM Modi on four-nation African tour

Should Tony Blair be punished for the Iraq War? - UpFront

Published on Jul 8, 2016
More than a decade after the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the country continues to become increasingly unstable. On Sunday, nearly 300 people were killed in the worst bombing since the invasion began.

Led by the United States with the support of the British, the war paved the way for a violent insurgency and a sectarian conflict that continues today. Various estimates put the civilian death toll between 150,000 to more than 300,000.

The criticism surrounding the government's decision to get involved in the Iraq war led to a seven year inquiry by former civil servant John Chilcot, which was released earlier this week.

The long-awaited Chilcot Report found that the British decision was based on "flawed intelligence" and the invasion went "badly wrong". While the report stopped short of calling former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair a liar, Chilcot said that claims about Weapons of Mass Destruction were "presented with a certainty that was not justified".

So is Blair to blame for the Iraq war and its fallout? And should he and former US President George W Bush, the war's other primary architect, be punished for their involvement?

In this special episode of UpFront, we debate the Iraq Inquiry with two former members of Blair's inner circle, Clare Short and John McTernan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XS2zIUDlGI&feature=em-uploademail

 

[Crimsonlurker]

It would seem that someone's getting the picture...

Read: Newt Gingrich's on-point statement about police violence and racism

"It took me a long time, and a number of people talking to me through the years, to get a sense of this: If you are a normal, white American, the truth is you don't understand being black in America and you instinctively under-estimate the level of discrimination and the level of additional risk," he said during a CNN interview Friday.

"It is more dangerous to be black in America," Gingrich said. "It is more dangerous in that they are substantially more likely to end up in a situation where the police don't respect you and you could easily get killed. And sometimes for whites it’s difficult to appreciate how real that is and how it's an everyday danger."

Now that is indeed powerful. I think someone is finally starting to understand things. Oh don't get me wrong. I don't believe him for a second. What i do believe is that he thinks if he lies about his feelings that black people may see the republican party differently. It's a good move. I mean the guy still thinks donald trump "is only candidate who has what it takes to kick over the table in Washington & get things done" but at least he's putting in enough effort to at least lie to try to get black people into the republican party. And thats powerful. It shows just how weak the republican/conservative party is without black, latino and etc votes. It shows just how desperate the party is for votes.

Seriously, if he didn't also back trump i might have believed it. Of course though, this is politics.

 

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NATO
Afghan leaders say
we require 5 billion dollars please,so we can continue our killing spree
funding ok till 2020,but a decision needs to be made thereafter .

NATO leaders consider future in Afghanistan

Published on Jul 9, 2016
NATO members are considering their future in Afghanistan at the ongoing summit in Warsaw, Poland.

Afghan leaders are pushing for more money, equipment and training to help build self-reliant armed forces to give them a fighting chance against the Taliban.

NATO troops have been in Afghanistan since 2002. It remains their largest operation with nearly 13,000 troops from 39 countries.

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NATO to deploy more troops near Russia

Published on Jul 9, 2016
NATO has announced it will deploy forces to the Baltics and Poland to deter any Russian aggression in the region.

The western defence pact says Moscow will be briefed on its decisions next week.
s Andrew Simmons reports from the NATO summit in Warsaw
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ps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI1Yl7SK6CM&feature=em-uploademail

 

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somehow i dont mind INDIA doing its thing travelling around visiting countries re trtade
hope they target the UK at some stage
CHINA INDIA and if the UK can humble itself and eventually trade with RUSSIA much to the disgust of the honcho westerners USA well .. what better ha
the UK may well find itself as strong as,the Eu,now wouldent that be fun/a turnaround,slap in the Eu face . ha.

India, South Africa boost ties with Modi visit

Published on Jul 9, 2016
India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi is on a four-nation trip to Africa to boost trade and investment.
Modi is also looking for allies to help achieve India's diplomatic ambitions.

incredible the heat,destroying these peoples living/livelihood
and i bitch and moan re my minimal hot/cold normal country temperatures mmmmm
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The war in Yemen: Yemenis struggle with fierce heat

In Yemen, a shortage of fuel for electricity and high summer temperatures are endangering lives and providing perfect conditions for the spread of disease. And with no sign of an end to the country's 15-month long conflict, ordinary Yemenis are finding it difficult to escape the heat.

this exclusive report

The Iraq war: Did Tony Blair deceive us? - UpFront (Reality Check)
Published on Jul 9, 2016
While the long-awaited Chilcot Report, released earlier this week, issued a damning verdict on Tony Blair's involvement in the British decision to invade Iraq in 2003, did we really need to wait seven years to realise this?
In this week's Reality Check, Mehdi Hasan argues that, even without the Iraq inquiry, there were clear examples of Blair's deception.

 

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AUSTRALIAN ELECTION DAY 2016 /partial dodgy result
a weakand a half big ben pie,later
a nother stab in the back/shirtfront imminent,thats a given ..!!!

CLAING VICTORY a little/big difference to an outright win
so possibly anoterAustralian 'stab inthe back' scene next year ha
5th or 6th PM in 4 years or such

never mind weve secured billions of dollars of FTRENCHNuclear submarines to protefct NZha,that deal will probablyget cancelled,give t to CHINA r theUK ha ..

Australia election: PM Malcolm Turnbull claims victory
Australia's incumbent Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has claimed victory in one of the closest and longest elections in the country's history.

Votes from last week's election are still being counted but the opposition has conceded defeat.