Rapist of 11 yr old girl gets street justice. Awesome

[D_Kissimmee Coldsore]

I think some of the innocent people in this thread should get a beating by a mob who are "convinced" they are guilty of a crime. By committing that act the whole mob are undeniably guilty of serious assault, while that guy could be innocent. I hope some of the mob are imprisoned.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

I think some of the innocent people in this thread should get a beating by a mob who are "convinced" they are guilty of a crime.

And while they're at it, perhaps they can all get waterboarded as well? :biggrin1:

By committing that act the whole mob are undeniably guilty of serious assault, while that guy could be innocent.

Exactly! Of course, none of the innocent people you're referring to seem to understand that there are some negatives to consider for taking the law into your own hands. And even if the guy does turn out to be guilty, the mob would STILL be guilty of assault.

 

[SEXXXX]

Nick, it is not *my* solution.

My point is simply that this is how it is in that community. They carry out their own justice.

Another example along the same lines...I grew up in a small rural community...if a guy found out that his wife was screwing another man (Joe), he would simply go over to Joe's house, knock on his door, and beat the F*ck out of him.

Then it was over. No cops, no lawyers, etc.

Is there anything wrong with this? Maybe, maybe not. But its just how it was in that town and had been for generations.

Would Abe Lincoln approve of this? Probably not.

But that is how things are in that community. Of course we can talk about ideals and reasoning and laws, but that is just a learned mode of reaction in that community. No matter how much you talk about peace and forgiveness and justice, Joe is going to get decked when he's poking someone's wife.

Was Joe FOUND guilty or he was decked based on suspicion?

need more details

 

[B_VinylBoy]

Was Joe FOUND guilty or he was decked based on suspicion?

need more details

The investigation is still under way so he hasn't been convicted of anything yet. But a group of "starinvestors" assuming that he's guilty, played vigilante and gave him what they feel is a "beating of justice". Hence the OP.

Oh, this isn't about the actual topic... this is about the new example that "Mr. Justice" put forth to defend himself.

 

[ZOS23xy]

I used the same terminology in describing my community.


I'm not sue I understand the implicit meaning of 'racist.'

If it means that I believe that most inner-city ghettos are predominantly black or hispanic, then yes, I am a racist.

If it means you look down on someone because they are a different ethnicity than your own, then no, I am not a racist.

You are ambiguous here. Can't you commit to a thought?

With either one of the assumptions above, you are a racist. There is, as was in the 50's, a silent form of racism. If you were black, you had your place on the back of the bus, or a different water fountain to drink out of. This was the quiet silent racism that was accepted by millions of white Americans. If you stepped beyond the barrier by looking at a white woman examining her with your eyes, white people would kill you. And get away with it.

Case in point. Emmit Till.

You describe your community with lazy thinking?

And what of the other ghettos you know nothing about. Judia, mid East, Hindu, Pakistanise, Chinese, Japanese, Inuit, etc. Those people. That area.
Your thinking is muddled with assumptions, a lazy form of thinking.

 

[hud01]

Well what if he didn't do anything? Like that girl in CT who told her father that some dude raped her. He climbed thourgh the window and stabbed him, and he died. Turned out the girl was lying.

It was the mother who made it up, an adult, not a child

Vigilante justice: So, is it murder? - MSNBC TV- msnbc.com

Lawyer Convicted of Stabbing Neighbor to Death - Blogger News Network

Christina Edington refused to cooperate in the investigation of the killing. It was later determined that she suffered from postpartum depression and made up her suspicions. The two held hands as they walked into the courtroom for her husband’s sentencing. The James family is also filing a wrongful death lawsuit against both Jonathon and Christina Edington for provoking her husband to kill James.The determination that the Edington’s daughter was not molested came from an investigation. Physicians were called in to interview family members as well as observe the girl while she played to determine if she was dwelling on the molestation or developed a sudden fear of changing clothes or taking a bath. The investigation showed no evidence that the girl had been abused. Edington had been free on bond until his sentencing. The judge originally issued a 20-year sentence but dropped it to 12 years plus five years probation.

 

[B_starinvestor]

Was Joe FOUND guilty or he was decked based on suspicion?

need more details

guilty.

 

[B_starinvestor]

The pleas and wailing for the rights of the guilty are beyond ridiculous.

The law and justice system provides society with a framework for organization and civil living conditions.

It doesn't supercede nature and human life.

Life will continue to exist with or without the law. We need it to protect and serve.

However, it is an innate function of human behavior to react to stimuli. Many times, if someone sees a person being attacked, they will intercede and save the victim; despite what some here will have you think.

Regardless of the fact the VB would instead call the police and watch the assailant pummel and beat the victim from his living room while the police are on their way; there are some members of society that will indulge the human instinct of assisting the victim with or without the police.

Also, if Joe is poking Sam's wife, it does not make Sam a bad person to beat the piss out of Joe. That is what he deserves. And in a court of his peers, I doubt Sam would be looking at much punishment.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

The pleas and wailing for the rights of the guilty are beyond ridiculous.

Show us a link where the man in the OP has indeed been found guilty, otherwise you have nothing to go by.

The law and justice system provides society with a framework for organization and civil living conditions.

It doesn't supercede nature and human life.

Life will continue to exist with or without the law. We need it to protect and serve.

That was moralistically pointless...

However, it is an innate function of human behavior to react to stimuli. Many times, if someone sees a person being attacked, they will intercede and save the victim; despite what some here will have you think.

Absolute bullshit. Not everyone would jump into an altercation and play the role of hero when it's a conflict that doesn't concern them. Because that's how many people get killed.

Regardless of the fact the VB would instead call the police and watch the assailant pummel and beat the victim from his living room while the police are on their way;

Nice... assuming that I'm just another person from the lawless ghetto. Thoughts of calling you a daddy whorin' redneck enter my mind, however, I'll refrain. Nevertheless, watching you try to paint a picture of me being a coward and you being some kind of vigilant Mighty Mouse coming to the rescue of every Pearl Pureheart you see on the street is not only laughable, it's completely without merit.

there are some members of society that will indulge the human instinct of assisting the victim with or without the police.

That's fine and dandy, but the majority do NOT. At least in the city. They would in fact call the police, which is what authority would tell patrons to do in the FIRST PLACE. Of course, if you feel the need to play Walker, Texas Ranger go right on ahead. I know not to jump into a gang beating in progress in fear of my OWN safety, nevermind the person who is getting the beating for an issue that has nothing to do with me or something I know nothing about.

Also, if Joe is poking Sam's wife, it does not make Sam a bad person to beat the piss out of Joe. That is what he deserves. And in a court of his peers, I doubt Sam would be looking at much punishment.

Instead of trying to come up with excuses for your archaic beliefs, why don't you just accept the fact that you've exposed yourself as a person who would rather see people be brought to justice through vigilanteism instead of the actual court of law?

 

[B_starinvestor]

You are ambiguous here. Can't you commit to a thought?

With either one of the assumptions above, you are a racist. There is, as was in the 50's, a silent form of racism. If you were black, you had your place on the back of the bus, or a different water fountain to drink out of. This was the quiet silent racism that was accepted by millions of white Americans. If you stepped beyond the barrier by looking at a white woman examining her with your eyes, white people would kill you. And get away with it.

Case in point. Emmit Till.

You describe your community with lazy thinking?

And what of the other ghettos you know nothing about. Judia, mid East, Hindu, Pakistanise, Chinese, Japanese, Inuit, etc. Those people. That area.
Your thinking is muddled with assumptions, a lazy form of thinking.

I have made the comment a few times...I am referring to the black ghetto.

Not the Chinese ghetto.

Not the Hindu ghetto.


The black ghetto.

In my experience, blacks are generally more racist than whites. However, they are given a pass because as Jesse Jackson puts it, "they are not powerful enough to be racist."

What garbage.

But that is neither here nor there.

Why do you continue to attempt to take the thread into ridiculous tangents such as child abuse, racism and Hindu ghettos?

Because you know I am correct about the form of justice in the black ghetto; and you are dying to take me off course.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

I have made the comment a few times...I am referring to the black ghetto.

Not the Chinese ghetto.

Not the Hindu ghetto.


The black ghetto.

In my experience, blacks are generally more racist than whites. However, they are given a pass because as Jesse Jackson puts it, "they are not powerful enough to be racist."

What garbage.

But that is neither here nor there.

Why do you continue to attempt to take the thread into ridiculous tangents such as child abuse, racism and Hindu ghettos?

Because you know I am correct about the form of justice in the black ghetto; and you are dying to take me off course.

You've never lived in one, so take advice from someone who has. You're talking a bunch of bullshit. The only one who is looking at this issue in a racial matter is YOU.

 

[B_starinvestor]

You've never lived in one, so take advice from someone who has. You're talking a bunch of bullshit. The only one who is looking at this issue in a racial matter is YOU.

I've watched every episode of every season of The First 48.

If you really lived there, you are misrepresenting the ghetto to push your political agenda.

 

[tripod]

The pleas and wailing for the rights of the guilty are beyond ridiculous.

Star, this guy wasn't even a goddamn suspect for crying out loud... nobody has even been charged, let alone been found guilty.

The law and justice system provides society with a framework for organization and civil living conditions.

I'm with you Star...

It doesn't supercede nature and human life.

I have no idea what that even means in regards to this thread.

Life will continue to exist with or without the law. We need it to protect and serve.

Actually "to protect and serve" is merely enforcing the law... without the LAW, the system of law enforcement is chaotic.

However, it is an innate function of human behavior to react to stimuli. Many times, if someone sees a person being attacked, they will intercede and save the victim; despite what some here will have you think. There are some members of society that will indulge the human instinct of assisting the victim with or without the police.

Star you are talking about a hypothetical situation which has no real bearing on the events that this thread is about. Nobody saw her being raped... and nobody came to her aid.

What really happened is that the local news station ran the guys picture and said that the police were looking for him and he was a PERSON OF INTEREST.

Of course, the police department obviously doesn't know the difference between a suspect, target, subject and "person of interest".

A "person of interest" has no definition by the U.S. Department of Justice... and most cases involving "persons of interest" result in mistrials and usually end up with the "person of interest" receiving a large settlement from the government agency involved in the investigation.

Any lawyer can get this guy off now... but the cops have been interrogating him while he is in his hospital bed trying to see if they can tie him to a bunch of unsolved rapes in the area.

Fucking lazy cops... always trying to tie a bunch of unrelated cases together and pin them on one guy so they can look like they actually solve crime.

Also, if Joe is poking Sam's wife, it does not make Sam a bad person to beat the piss out of Joe. That is what he deserves. And in a court of his peers, I doubt Sam would be looking at much punishment.

Well, Sam will be paying ALL of Joe's medical bills and better not have any prior charges for assault on his record. There is no law that protects men from prosecution for beating up their spouse's lovers... not one in any single state.

And there will never be one, because violence in wrong... two wrongs doth not maketh a right.

 

[B_starinvestor]

Star, this guy wasn't even a goddamn suspect for crying out loud... nobody has even been charged, let alone been found guilty.

The little girl that was savagely raped provided the description which EXACTLY described Carrasquillo.

If he was innocent, why didn't he come in for questioning? Instead he evaded police.

He skipped court on another issue.

He is a putrid scumbag.

I have no idea what that even means in regards to this thread.

Making a point. Several are insisting that you never intercede in anything; just call the police.

If that is the case, you should have never escorted an unruly patron out of a bar; you should have just called the police.

Well, Sam will be paying ALL of Joe's medical bills and better not have any prior charges for assault on his record. There is no law that protects men from prosecution for beating up their spouse's lovers... not one in any single state.

Joe's usually to0 embarrassed to get the police involved. And Joe knew he had it coming.:wink:

 

[B_VinylBoy]

I've watched every episode of every season of The First 48.

If you really lived there, you are misrepresenting the ghetto to push your political agenda.

So watching a TV show filmed on location in the city makes you an authority on what happens in "the ghetto"? Does this mean if I watch The Beverly Hillbillies I can call myself an authority of your hometown?

And seriously, if I had a nickel for every time you said the word liberal in pertains to things you disagreed with, I could buy back your ancestor's plantation and turn it into a waffle house.

Your ignorance is staggering. Please STFU.

 

[SpeedoGuy]

Beware, ye apologists for mob justice, lest the mob arrive to vist ye someday.

 

[B_starinvestor]

Beware, ye apologists for mob justice, lest the mob arrive to vist ye someday.

if ye doesn't rape children and commit inhumane atrocities, the mob will never visit ye.

 

[SpeedoGuy]

if ye doesn't rape children and commit inhumane atrocities, the mob will never visit ye.

I don't share your confidence about who enraged mobs might or might not vent their anger on.

I don't recall that Marie Antoinette ever personally participated in rape or atrocities.

 

[ZOS23xy]

Try to change the subject again. just loved your comment that watching a Television show could give you such commanding knowledge. Tell us about space aliens, since you probably watched MORK.

Sorry guy, you don't recognize your inner racism because you're DENSE.

 

[ZOS23xy]

if ye doesn't rape children and commit inhumane atrocities, the mob will never visit ye.

Ah, passing judgement with a faux Biblical manner.

You can recall the statement of the Christ, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

You've failed.

You threw your comments at us, a handful of us think you're a blithering idiot.

Besides, nowhere in the Bible does it say I have to be a retarded Republican.