Rasmussen: 55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

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  1. Trinity

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    The Democrats underestimated the public's dislike of their mess of bills, plans for healthcare that won't work, seedy deals and misrepresentations of accounting. The Dems overestimate the appeal of their government take over and deficit spending.

    Latest Poll:
    Rasmussen: 55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill
    55% Favor Repeal of Obamascare

    The Dems are out in November for being stupid. :rolleyes:
     
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    Trinsanity: One trick pony

    The GOP is out NOW for being bat shit crazy:cool:
     
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    Rasmussen doesn't count as their polls are "cooked" and they are a tool of the right wing.
     
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    Rasmussen is an independent pollster with high polling accuracy. You don't get to determine what counts.
     
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    trollolololololololol. Oh the polls. So misleading.
     
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    The American people are against the content and process of this bill. Poll after poll has borne this out. Thank you Trinity for having the courage to tell an unpopular truth on this extremely liberal board.
     
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    What is consistent about Rasmussen's coverage of the health care debate is their incessant desire to frame the debate in ways designed to denigrate both the Congress and President Obama. One of the most insipid examples of this was a survey earlier in the week in which Rasmussen reported that two-thirds of voters believed that they understood the health care reform proposal as well, or better, than President Obama.

    Of course, there is objective evidence to prove that this poll is false. Indeed, in the recent poll conducted for AARP, just thirty-seven percent of Americans could correctly identify what is meant by a "public option". Nearly one-half of voters either thought it was a total nationalized healthcare program, or admitted that they had no idea.

    They are not limited to right-wing cheerleading on the health care issue. Check out the wording on this question about taxes and government services, offered up this week on the front page of their website:
    Do you agree or disagree with the following statement... it’s always better to cut taxes than to increase government spending because taxpayers, not bureaucrats, are the best judges of how to spend their money?
    Why stop there, Rasmussen? Why not add a parenthetical phrase about how tax cuts regrow hair, whiten teeth, and ensure that your favorite team will win the Super Bowl this year?

    Once you've already loaded a question with biased wording (this question, when stripped down, is basically asking people whether they like themselves more, or bureaucrats), you might as well go big or go home.

    Amazingly, with their word construction, people favored tax cuts 62-20. Legitimate pollsters, however, word the question very differently. Earlier in the year, both Pew and CBS asked the question simply, and without bias. The wording between the two varied slightly, but the basic construction was: "What do you think would benefit the economy more at this time: cutting taxes on individuals and businesses, or increasing spending on items like infrastructure and other programs?"

    Not surprisingly, without the loaded wording, the question was considerably closer.
    How Rasmussen's right-wing bias has made it a laughing stock among major pollsters - LiveDaily Community
     
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    Asking that question denigrates no one. The people are identifying that Obama doesn't understand the legislation the way they they understand it. In other words - Dems just don't get it. Obama just does not get it. If that is demeaning to the Democrats - they are in wrong profession because they represent The People.

    The Dems have no idea about the public option. :rolleyes: There are dozens of articles about that.

    Rasmussen is a legitimate independent pollster with high accuracy. This loaded question" accusation is weak. It also doesn't invalidate Rasmussen accuracy in polling or the topic of this thread: 55% Favor Repeal of the Health Care Bill
     
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    This thread is so much more interesting without the troll's posts showing up.

    More of you should try it. It really makes the forum a nicer place!
     
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    Well, The He/She and Holy It seems to think we don't get to decide "what counts." But I'm certain we all get to decide who is and who is not a Troll. The He/She and Holy It can take that one to the bank. :smile:
     
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    I'm just saying, when you put Trinity on ignore, the forum is a better place. I've never put anyone on ignore in my life, but I'm really liking the way the forum looks and feels more sane and civilized.
     
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    :lmao:That question only serves to point out the tendency of Americans to demonize their enemies and those they dislike. There is such a thing as "giving the devil his due." They don't agree with Obama, and thus they feel they understand the bill better than him. When he was the President of Harvard Law Review and they are... not. Tell me, where exactly do they get their legal expertise before they answer that they understand this 1000 page bill they haven't even read better than a Harvard elite intimately connected to it?

    :eek: What! The Democrats have no idea what a public option is?!? Now that you mention it, haven't they been telling everyone it is nationalized healthcare? They've been calling it fascist, communist, and socialist too! An under the table abortion for every 14-year-old girl and free healthcare for anyone who doesn't want to work! Oh wait, that's the Republican Party. Never mind. :rolleyes:

    Actually, his reference to the AARP study, as well as your study, do just that. In both cases the people polled show ignorance of the facts and thus a general lack of understanding about the content of the bill, which means that their opinion is not based on logic, but something else. I suppose that I'd be the same way if I relied on Fox News for all of my information.

    There's also the matter of why our government is set up the way it is. We are not a direct democracy. We are a representative government. This is to keep people from buying every policy they wish through the public opinion. Allowing elected officials to make policy prevents us from being led by the easily swayed and the stupid.
     
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    Your little tantrum still does nothing to invalidate Rasmussen polling or this poll. :rolleyes:
     
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    Seriously, why do we let this troll keep on with this? *YAWN*
     
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    So since someone disagrees with you - you question why do you let him/her voice their opinion? really? that's pretty scary
     
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    You obviously haven't spent too much time on the politics forum.
     
  18. JTalbain

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    Okay, let's go slow so maybe you'll get it. Obama likely knows more about this bill and is more intimately connected with it than anyone else on the planet. This is his baby. On top of that, he is a Harvard alumnus and a veritable authority on law. Yet about two-thirds of the public claims that they understand it as good as or better than he does. This means the people being polled, which according to Ramussen are supposed to be representative of the American public, are idiots and/or entirely too full of themselves.

    Flash to the AARP study. Their survey, which is also supposed to be representative of the American public, notes that only 37% of Americans can even identify what a public option is. Since this is one of the core issues in the health care legislation debate, it means that over sixty percent of America is ill informed on this issue.

    So one study shows that most Americans have no idea what they're talking about, and your study shows that most of those polled think they do, even better than a former head of Harvard Law Review. The point then is this: Why should anyone care what those people think? An uninformed opinion is useless to anyone.

    Here's a better format for the poll: Ask people factual questions about the content of the bill, then ask them how well they think they understand it and how well they support it. Just for giggles throw in political affiliation. Compare all the statistics by categorization. Wouldn't that be enlightening. :wink:
     
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