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[dreamer20]

Picture a dence dark empty forest, deep within the centre of the forest an over laiden brach creeks SNAPS and CRASHES to the ground. during this even(?) is there any sound to be heard ???

Yes. Other than the laughter regarding Pecker's "empty forest" comment, a shriek was emitted from the proof reader who forgot to spell check your post.
I believe he was called Brach. :biggrin1:

 

[eddyabs]

I've tried to read, and ponder.....but I can't possibly answer...let alone discuss...no offense intended to the OP....:redface:

mama it'a makey no sense!

 

[midlifebear]

OK, so far I've gleaned that to answer the original question I will require the following:

1. Some LSD (Pecker is LDS, close, but no cigar.)

2. Long division to discover the geo-positional place and time that Smartalk and Pecker will meet over an empty forest (probably some stretch of clear-cutting in Iceland sometime in the afternoon . . . on a Friday, maybe).

3. A handful of aspirin for Midlifebear's anticipated migraine. (I hate long division.)

4. A means of detecting SINE waves from above the empty forest.

Optional equipment: loom wool and one of my coveted Jefferson Aeroplane album vinyl originals.

Gimme a second.

 

[vince]

If no one (not noone damnit!!) is there to observe the tree falling, there is no sound. When the branch falls, it sets up a shock wave in the in the air. This wave or vibration is absolutely silent. For sound to exist, the waves must impact a reciever. In this case a human ear. The ear has an eardrum which vibrates and the inner ear converts the vibrations into electrical impulses, which are transmitted to the brain, where they are are translated and conceptualized into what we call "sounds".

Everywhere "out there" is silent. Sound only exists in our heads!

The same holds true for light. Photons are absolutely dark. It's only when they reflect off an object and are received by the eye and translated by the biocomputer in my head that I can conceive them as light. The universe is completely dark.

The voices inside Nick's head are every bit as much sound as the branch falling. They just have a different source.

Any other questions Grasshopper?

:tongue:

 

[Smartalk]

Oh Vince glasschopper, you are indeed a wise and noble being, the way your mind works and percives things is far greater than any percieved under the influence of LSD or any other mind bending substance.

As for Pecker he is to fucking wise for his own good.............give you top marks thought have to admit I did PMSL. Anymore wise cracks like that Pecker I will have to report you to yourself. got that.

Anyone else care to make a sensible contribution.

This is what I like about this site we can be serious but also laugh at ourselves as well as each other.

 

[MASSIVEPKGO_CHUCK]

Here's the main problem; Empty screams ambiguity. You can't possibly mean no other trees besides that one, because then it wouldn't be a forest. Now, if you meant empty as in devoid of animals, who knows.


Getting to your answer, Like Jason els has pointed out, sound is always present regardless of witnesses.

Also, bear in mind that a forest full of trees will muffle out some sound to a degree so that a person outside of the forest will hear some of it.

Likewise, consider the landscape as well. If the forest is surrounded by a hollow or mountain, the noise will bounce off and be heard very distinctively and clearly.

 

[2322]

If no one (not noone damnit!!) is there to observe the tree falling, there is no sound. When the branch falls, it sets up a shock wave in the in the air. This wave or vibration is absolutely silent. For sound to exist, the waves must impact a reciever. In this case a human ear. The ear has an eardrum which vibrates and the inner ear converts the vibrations into electrical impulses, which are transmitted to the brain, where they are are translated and conceptualized into what we call "sounds".

Everywhere "out there" is silent. Sound only exists in our heads!

The same holds true for light. Photons are absolutely dark. It's only when they reflect off an object and are received by the eye and translated by the biocomputer in my head that I can conceive them as light. The universe is completely dark.

The voices inside Nick's head are every bit as much sound as the branch falling. They just have a different source.

Any other questions Grasshopper?

:tongue:

I like your answer best.

 

[JustAsking]

In space, no one can hear you scream.

 

[2322]

In space, no one can hear you scream.

Here I see JustAsking reply to this thread and get very excited expecting some profound bit of overlooked wisdom and instead I get a movie slogan:grumble:.

 

[JustAsking]

Here I see JustAsking reply to this thread and get very excited expecting some profound bit of overlooked wisdom and instead I get a movie slogan:grumble:.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

 

[Deno]

shhhh, I'm trying to hear

 

[JustAsking]

Much silence makes a powerful noise
- African Proverb

 

[Smartalk]

OK OK OK you wise and wonderful people, when I said empty forest I meant no living person present within the forest. Gee you try add some intellect to the site and you get shot to pieces. Will I bother to post another wonderful awe inspiring intellectually stimulating, mind enhancing scientific challenge....................you got it. ........YES.

It was well worth the laugh it caused. I challenge anyone to come up with a better one I through down the gauntlet.


PS I ran the spell check this time

PPS No I have not taken any form of mind bending drug, never have, nor ever will

 

[Phil Ayesho]

Nothing exists outside of perception.

You will all find out when you are dead and the universe and all being ceases
for you.

 

[midlifebear]

Now the question has been settled, can I just take the LSD anyway and enjoy the experience in peace?!

 

[Smartalk]

Phil Ayesho, You are absolutely right in everything you say. Nothing exists from its own side You obviously know the true meaning of emptiness.

 

[dong20]

You will all find out when you are dead and the universe and all being ceases for you.

Except, you won't 'find out', because by that very definition, you can't.

 

[B_Hickboy]

If a man makes a mistake and there's no woman there to criticize him, did it really happen?

 

[Phil Ayesho]

Except, you won't 'find out', because by that very definition, you can't.

Exactly....

Ironic ain't it?

 

[Phil Ayesho]

If a man makes a mistake and there's no woman there to criticize him, did it really happen?

I think that's supposed to go...
"if a man says something in the forest and there's no woman there to hear him, is he still wrong?