"Real Male 2 Male Sex"

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  1. EternalCaverns

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    I find frottage iimages and videos very arousing to look at, especially if they lead to double climax. I say this as a woman.

    On that note, I just finished reading the thread on here entitled, Dick To Dick. I thought it was cool to see so many men into cock rubbing, plus I wanted to see some videos and pictures linked in the thread for viewing pleasure.

    Later in this thread someone linked a very interesting site and I took a look around it to browse more of its content.

    I found this section of the site intriguing in particular: LINK

    The message is that anal sex was never really a "gay male sex activity" but that many gay men over many decades have grown up feeling as if they HAVE to engage in anal sex in order to fully experience and express their sexuality physically as gay males.

    What do you think of this site's message and are there any gay or bi men here who prefer frottage (dick to dick rubbing) and oral sex over anal sex?

    Have you ever felt pressured to engage in anal sex just because of your attraction to men growing up?

    Do you feel it is necessary to experience anal sex as a gay or bi male?
     
  2. midlifebear

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    I agree there's a lot more to gay sex than anal intercourse. But the person responsible for that web site has his own "fetish" agenda to promote. The "anal sex equals death" routine gets a bit old. I've not fucked every male I've met and bedded down, only those who were interested in initiating it when they threw their legs in the air. And even then I didn't always "go for it."

    It depends how one is sexually "wired" more than the idea that there is a conspiracy out there to dominate other men by forcing them to be sexually submissive. And there are whole subcultures of fetishes dedicated to dominating and being dominated in both gay and straight worlds. Personally, I'll never understand why scat is so common in German porn.

    But the first time I ever had anal sex was me penetrating my scout master who was WAY into sticking things up his bum. The first time I was fucked by another male I was under no pressure to be dominated. I was actually rather curious about it. I didn't find it terribly satisfying, but many men do. And I'm certainly in no position to tell them what should and should not turn them on.

    Personally, considering the things I've done sexually with women at their behest, I'd say the author of that web site is somewhat anal retentive and only is able to see sex between two men according to his particular wiring. It's amusing to hear people regard the word frottage as a new concept, especially when it was a major component of safe sex literature in the early 1980's.
     
  3. EternalCaverns

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    Interesting that you mentioned the term frottage being presented as a new term.

    Growing up I got very different definitions of what the terms frottage, voyeurism and even exhibitionism meant. They were all negatively associated terms.

    -When I thought of frottage growing up, I thought of the creepy man on the bus who boarded and stood next to an unsuspecting woman quietly reading her magazine while leaning against the pole for support. This man would begin rubbing himself on her through his pants and would eventually bring himself to orgasm through the sensation and the thrill. The woman would soon realize what he was doing and feel trapped and embarrassed but would fear doing or saying anything out loud. Before she could really get the courage, the bus would come to a stop and he'd be on his way off, escaping with wicked satisfaction and possibly on to his next victim. This person might eventually be arrested.

    -When I thought of voyeurism, it was often linked to "peeping tom" types, men who'd climb into a bush before a woman's bathroom window or look through an undiscovered hole in the wall at a womens gym locker room and jack off wildly to the vision of naked female bodies getting undressed or cleansing themsellves while they remained ignorant of being watched.

    -When I thought of exhbitiion, it was always presented as the idea of the strange and eccentric flasher, the one wearing the very long dark or deep brown trench coat with nothing on underneath but a pair of plaid socks and rainboots. He'd look for anyone (be it child, man, woman...whole family even) sitting quietly at a conversative but semi-populated location and eventually flash them his goods with a savage smile and surging erection completely inspired by the taboo of event. He'd quickly run away for fear of being caught but turned on by the idea of being arrested while totally running the image of the shock of the victims' faces over and over in his mind.

    Baically this was how frottage, voyeurism, exhibitionism and the like were presented to me when very young...as criminal offenses that "freaks" often engaged in...weird, dangerou and taboo stuff.

    Today these terms have been embraced in a new manner, as more sensual and inclusive. Whole businesses are built off of the fetish community, especially voyeurism (Girls Gone Wild, webcam shows and so forth). "We" don't necessarily associate criminal activities and "malevolently-perverted" and "weird" people with these sexual pastimes and interests anymore. Some so-called very ultra conservatives types always will however. These sexual acts are now seen as sexual categories and desires in their own right. I think in this sense, some people who are now exploring these things in today's time might see the terms as "new".

    I just personally think they've been "redefined" and expanded.
     
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    I am hedonistically bisexual and definitely prefer both frot and oral to any sort of anal activity. I have never bottomed and have only topped occasionally, when the chemistry just seemed right. But frot and oral (giving and receiving) are both a total turnon for me. In addition to dick to dick rubbing I also enjoy having my partner grind his cock against just about any part of my body, and I to his.

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    Mmm, Silvertip, that's man sex.

    I'm homosexual and I resent being forced into pseudo-hetero sex roles. I am currently fucking a bloke, but he's bi, not gay. He's big, strong and masculine.

    Lol, he brought round two old dvd movies last night. Basic Instinct with Sharon Stone and The Graduate with Anne Bancroft. "Are you trying to turn me?", I said. And then fucked him again anyway. And no, I wasn't imagining him as the "woman".
     
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    Thank you, MLB, for saying pretty much what I would have.

    I have a long-standing distaste for the site linked, for many reasons. He attempts to re-write history by stating that anal sex wasn't routine in ancient times: it obviously was (read Seutonious, for starters). And his equation of butt-fucking and vaginal sex is wrong-headed and demeaning to bottoms, who are not necessarily "feminine" at all. It's odd that no one feels that way about blowjobs, most of which are delivered by women every day around the world.

    But mostly I object to any discussion about sex between consenting adults that limits rather than expands possibilities. I have nothing against frot: it was my first sexual activity aside from masturbation. Like every other sexual act, it has its place, depending on the partners involved. But to me an encounter involving nothing but frot and masturbation is like making a meal of the cheese platter appetizer but only eating the crackers.

    As MLB said, the website owner's motives are more to scorn and prohibit acts he finds personally distasteful than to encourage open, positive attitudes about sexuality. For men with a deeply rooted ambivelence about sex in general and gay sex in particular, I'm sure he sings a song that's not heard too often and strikes deeply sympathetic chords. But to me, he comes off as prohibitionary, shrill, preachy and oddly judgmental of the sex habits of others. There's a missionary zeal about the whole thing that I find kinda sad.
     
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