RealClearPolitics: Why The HealthCare Bill Could Be Repealed

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  1. Trinity

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    For those who doubt any chance of repeal...they should read this article:

    Why the Health Care Bill Could Be Repealed
    By Sean Trende
    RealClearPolitics

     
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    Surprise, surprise! The gender bending bigoted forum troll has chosen to use another right wing source. Trinsanity seek help! You were amusing for awhile but now you are just pathetic!
     
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    The author of that article is DREAMING as are you Trin.
    290 votes in the house
    67 in the Senate
     
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    And the Republicans could have it by 2012. One Dem already switched to a Republican...Blue Dog Democrats have voted against the bill...so those numbers are plausible by the 2012 election - way before major changes in 2014.
     
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    THIS.
     
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    If you think 2/3 majorities are possible for the GOP in 2012, then I have a bridge in Alaska to sell you sweetheart. Repealing the healthcare bill, including such provisions as requiring insurers to disregard pre existing conditions would be political suicide. Sorry, but conservatives have been outfoxed.
     
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    Will the Republicans gain seats in 2010. Yes, as out of power parties usually do during midterm elections. But the teabagger party is going to be their undoing. You heard it here first.
     
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    lolz! Priceless! I was just seeing the numerous headlines pop up today, talking about the Republican push to 'repeal' the HCR Act is already losing steam within their own ranks.


    Yet here's our resident deluded troll, trying to convince everyone that up is down, war is peace, and most importantly, that ignorance is strength.



    Turns out that just a week after passage, already Republican Governors are backtracking on their rhetoric from last week. Turns out that nobody wants to have to explain to their constituents why they spent millions of taxpayer dollars on a frivolous lawsuit that would prevent those same constituents from receiving better access to medical care. Especially when every state that filed a lawsuit has a budget deeply in the red. (One example;Click here for article)


    Furthermore, polling continues to show opposition slowly but surely eroding, and support rising for the new law... A new CNN poll asked respondents if they want to see the current bill repealed, and then replaced by a different reform package, and a majority of voters said NO, they like the current law as-is! (frankly, this surprised even me a bit, given the inviting wording of the poll)... The poll also showed that the number of people who think this law didn't go far enough (27%), outnumber the people who want the law fully repealed (25%)... Lastly, the same poll also shows that Obama's approval rating has risen 5% in the past week. (from 46% to 51%)
    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/29/rel6a.pdf
     
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    That's a serious re-writing of history. The GOP fought bitterly against both social security and medicare. They ran on that opposition in '34 and '66, respectively, and won a bunch of seats in both those years. So to say that either of those programs were bipartisan is a totally false claim.

    Doesn't matter what happens now, that's a matter of conjecture and prediction ... but the article is dead wrong because it's making up history as it goes along.

    My dad was a little kid in '36, by the way, and remembers his GOP parents hating Roosevelt and being convinced he was going to bankrupt the country with his Socialist ways. Sound familiar to anyone?
     
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    krispdx, if I'm not mistaken, The Dems made huge gains in '34...and '36 too. It wasn't until Roosevelt and Congress ramped down spending that they lost big in '38
     
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    you may be right ... it was definitely what the GOP ran on, however, with themes close to what they're saying today about the current health care legislation. thanks for the correction!
     
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    You are absolutely correct. It could be argued that the GOP didn't stop running on a repeal the New Deal platform until Eisenhower's first campaign. He was the first one to accept the basic tenets of Roosevelt liberalism- that the central government CAN and SHOULD act as a safety net for those who fall through the cracks.
     
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    You left out the part where the Republicans were CRUSHED in 1936, because they ran against the newly passed Social Security Act. After the dust settled from that election, the Dems held the 2nd largest Congressional majority in the nation's history.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_1936


    And if your folks told you all about the Gee-Oh-Pee, then how could you possibly not know the part where 1936 GOP Presidential nominee Alf Landon literally destroyed his political career by running on a platform that opposed the Social Security Act? (he retired from politics after that race, even though he was only 49yrs old at the time)
     
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    Democrat Joins Calls for Health Care Repeal

    CBS News
     
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    The Republican Party actually gained majorities in the House and Senate (I think both of them) in 1946 (with an unpopular President Truman), and tried to repeal much of the New Deal, but were thwarted by public opinion and Harry Truman, whereby Democrats promptly regained their majorities in 1948. So, the GOP may win the battle in 2010, but they've allowed themselves to be painted into a corner by the Democrats.
     
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    Trinity, the bottom line is this: there is no way in hell this is going to be repealed. Get over it. Your side lost.
     
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    Oh my.......a Dem from the 7th congressional district of North Carolina that went 53% McCain 47% Obama in the election and who voted AGAINST healthcare reform is against the new healthcare law...yawn.
     
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