Reality about penis sizes - a look

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This has probably been done before, but it is a problem that continues to exist, on and off the internet. Moreso on the internet, thanks to the anonymity, I suppose. The nature of this discussion of course means that there are always exceptions – but I am just talking about the general tendencies. I am also going to limit this thread to length, though the same ideas apply for girth. Basically, this thread deals in a overview manner about the fantasy land and the reality over cock sizes.

Today, not just LPSG, but several websites on the internet, there are claims of 8”, 10”, or even more, are rampant. Of course, these numbers are meaningless for a variety of reasons:

1) People lie, simple as that. Don’t ask me to explain why, because I can’t, but men and women alike love to exaggerate penis sizes.
2) Mismeasurements. Well, there is no real standard way of measuring. Despite constant attempts at standardizing – i.e. those of using rulers, non bone pressed, standing up, on top of the shaft, etc. etc. people continue to measure in their own way. Sure, it is possible to measure a 6” cock as 9”. After all, you did measure it, and you are not really lying, right?
3) Misperceptions. A lot of people simple like to deduce penis size by looking at them. And more often than not, especially for women, they get it wrong. I have noticed responses to my pictures in the “Guess my size” thread. Though this is a men-only thread, I realized most people would guess 8” based on my semi and flaccid pictures. Well, the semis in my pictures are under 7”. There was another humourous porn video I came across in the Amateur Girls & Big Cocks thread. It was a candid amateur video involving a man who looked to have a genuinely large cock – we’re talking pornstar quality. So, the girl whipped out a ruler and guess what – it came out to be 7”, and she didn’t even measure it right. The girl’s reaction was “7?!?!?! How can that be 7?!?! That monster a 7??” or something to the tune.

All I am saying is, people have very little clue on perceiving size in inches.
So, in a real world, what exactly is the distribution like? What is average?
First of all, self surveys are utterly useless – for the reasons mentioned above. Even in complete anonymity, men still like to lie. Let us approach this scientifically. Surveys which are measured by a third party properly.

The biggest problem is – these surveys take very few men – maybe a few hundreds, causing totally out of proportion sample bias. Even so, here are some figures from respective surveys – 5.08”; 5.35”; 5.9”. And the largest survey, of 3300 men, revealed 5”. Here are all the figures: Human penis size - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, you would think, those are slightly lower than the 8” average we see around the internet, right? (Let’s not get into LPSG).
Consider the study with the largest average – LifeStyles. Now, this is a bunch of horny American college students who are eager to have their penises measured – hardly a representative sample. I mean, judging by how men seem to think of penis sizes, surely the ones with larger cocks are more likely to enroll for such a survey, right? Moreover, this survey actually utilizes measurements from the side, again overestimating.
No doubt then, that Lifestyles is definitely more likely to be biased to the higher side. Here are some figures on the distribution (from this graph: File:penis percentile.svg): - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

>6.5”: 1 in 8
>7”: 1 in 20
>7.5": 1 in 40-50
>8”: 1 in 100

And this is actually very high figures considering the bias of the Lifestyles survey – in the real world, you may be looking at 1 in a few hundred being 8”. Or even 7". For 10”, you may be looking at 1 in many million.

Have you ever seen a cock with a clear measurement picture at 10”? I sure haven’t. I have seen some massive, massive cocks. Many from these forums. And the largest proper measurement pic I have seen tops out at 9.5” or so. I am not going to mention who it is – but it is probably the largest I have ever seen. So, that is the reality. Are there penises larger than 10” out there? Sure, but they must be extremely, extremely rare. I don’t think I have seen one. As for pornstars, don’t forget their actual sizes and their “billed sizes” are different. It is just like in wrestling, where they play around weights and heights. It’s show business. It has nothing to do with reality. I was looking at the 8” measurement pic thread. There are hundreds of replies. But really, how many true measurements are there in that thread? Very, very few. I went through 10 pages, and I only found 3, I am not kidding. And this is 8”, what is supposed to be average around here, lol.

In the real world, this is how it works. Average size is probably closer to 5” than you may think. (that is what the largest survey shows – and that is by no means definite). I would guess 5.25” as an optimistic average. Anything above 6” is a good size. Stop lying about it, it’s ridiculous. One guy lies, five do, and suddenly it is alright. Stop obsessing over cock sizes, concentrate on fucking, folks!

And as for the 'sizequeens' who say “minimum 10 inches”, good luck. Though, they might not realize it – to their perception 7” is 10 after all.
 

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Sure, it is possible to measure a 6” cock as 9”. After all, you did measure it, and you are not really lying, right?

Though, they might not realize it – to their perception 7” is 10 after all.

Most of your perceptions were spot on, except for these. In the former, no, it's not possible and I should know. And in the latter, 11 is the new 7. :wink:
 

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I would add an example.

There are pictures that show "8 quarter club" penises. Kind of implying 8 inches. Put 8 quarters in a line and measure it and it is just over 7.5"

In these pictures the first quarter can often be seen to lie half past "hinge" and the last quarter can be dipping past the tip. You're actually seeing a 6.75 to 7" dick.

That said they are thick, long impressive dicks.

There are any number of 'measuring' techniques on pictures that are self-evidently fraudulent and so the poster should know they aren't fooling everybody. :)
 

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do we really need a post telling us that guys lie about their penis size? and will pick whatever measurement gives them the highest #?

but in any case we all know that, we also know that alot of women who have been with mostly average sized men will have assumed that they were 6 inches, and anything over that is just purely great. I'm currently with a girl that likes to joke that my penis is a foot long. I tell her different, and she just shakes of my response and continues exaggerating. And the funny posts i've seen on websites where a girl will ask for 9" minimum are just extremely amusing. I'm sure there are some women who are into that size for real, but i'm also sure many of them are going off the word of mouth size of 9" which is probably closer to 7-8" tops

Women like to think of the penis that they encounter andconsider large is "crazy" big too.

And as someone who has taken deep looks into studies, i agree with you about the skewed sample sizes, and other studies that don't even measure the penis, and go by "word of mouth" very unreliable indeed. I think however at one point while doing internet research for a couple of girls, and other friends, i found a study that measured penis's and seemed to not be so skewed.... and they found the average to be close to 5.5 inches... unfortunately that was long ago, and i don't remember where or how i got to the study.

And i'm done ranting.
 

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Couple of thoughts, first I think you are pretty accurate sort of..

1) medical measurements use bone pressed. Lining up quarters makes this impossible so while 8 quarters lined up might only be 7 1/2 real inches, I am sure most of those ppl have a medical measurement of 8 to 8 1/4. Those are the measurements you have to compare against your 5 1/4" average guy.

Also it is freaking hard to maintain 100% and try to pull this off. I suggest trying it even if you dont post the pic just to have an understanding of how much loss there is before people take that picture, and then consider curvature and having to deal with angle.

2) Truly gigantic dicks do exist. I saw one in San Fran at the power exchange (only went once... and that is a different story) when it was still open, 1 in Croatia at a nude beach, and at a gym shower once. No I did not take a tape measure to them but they were clearly 9+.. and this is not some gay fantasy. I am straight as one can be.

3) Porn stars lie, but there are some giants among them... Mandingo for one is clearly gigantic.
 

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That is why 7 to 8 bone pressed is the average on this board.I think RFJ dedicated his membership ban to the entire subject of bad measurement practices but i wont bring up his name again.
 

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Most of your perceptions were spot on, except for these. In the former, no, it's not possible and I should know. And in the latter, 11 is the new 7. :wink:

Really? Try this - take a measuring tape, start from the side from 2", hide the start with your thumb or something, bend and twist it a bit, and hey presto! You have 9"! Or, measure it holding your penis to the side. And I am not even getting into measuring from balls down and the like! They would do anything! :tongue: That reminds me, a famous pornstar, I don't remember who exactly, I think it was Lex Steele. He measured at 9.5" measuring holding his penis to side i.e. to his thighs. So, in reality, he's probably around 8". The pornstar with supposedly one of the largest cocks.

I would add an example.

There are pictures that show "8 quarter club" penises. Kind of implying 8 inches. Put 8 quarters in a line and measure it and it is just over 7.5"

In these pictures the first quarter can often be seen to lie half past "hinge" and the last quarter can be dipping past the tip. You're actually seeing a 6.75 to 7" dick.

That said they are thick, long impressive dicks.

There are any number of 'measuring' techniques on pictures that are self-evidently fraudulent and so the poster should know they aren't fooling everybody. :)

Indeed, I thought about the 8 quarter club thread immediately after posting, but I thought there was enough evidence. Sure, there are very few people who actually post a convincing pic. Although, in this case, it may be because they live abroad, and it might not be the most convenient thing compared to picking up a ruler.

I guess most people already know what I am talking about, but it still carries on!
 

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Actually 8 inches was never even implied in that thread as being equivalent to $2 in quarters. It was pretty clear that 8 quarters equal 7.# and that 9 quarters would be over 8 inches (which is why there are soooo few 9 quarter pics :biggrin1:).

There are pictures that show "8 quarter club" penises. Kind of implying 8 inches. Put 8 quarters in a line and measure it and it is just over 7.5"
 

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Actually 8 inches was never even implied in that thread as being equivalent to $2 in quarters. It was pretty clear that 8 quarters equal 7.# and that 9 quarters would be over 8 inches (which is why there are soooo few 9 quarter pics :biggrin1:).

The 8 quarters in a line are 7.64" long, which does in fact imply that the cock is very close to 8 inches.

You can't honestly tell me someone can really tell the difference between .36 of an inch without measuring it right in front of their face (probably couldn't tell even if you were measuring it AND it was right in front of your face). :rolleyes:

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9 quarters in a line is 8.6" long and most of the 9 quarter photos have a lot of overlapping in them (a lot of the 8 quarter photos do have overlapping as well).

Doesn't take much overlapping before you've easily lost .5 to a whole 1" off the total length of the line of quarters.
 
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It is true, people do get it wrong, and women often exhaggerate size. I've noticed the girls I know will see a penis and think it's the biggest thing ever: but remember, their stuff goes INTERNAL, of course external genetalia is going to seem big to them! And it's true, people are bad at guessing by looking, and people often lie about their own sizes as well.

Some other things it's good to keep in mind: for straight guys, the most sensitive area of the vagina is actually only about two inches in, so having an epicly large cock doesn't necessarily make sex better for women. The size battle is actually quite irrelevant. Also, a lot of people don't want a monster cock: I find a lot of people prefer to be with someone around 6 or 7, as opposed to 9s or 10s.
 

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Your first post said "kind of implying 8 inches"... your exact words. Then below you changed it to "very close to 8 inches". Big difference... and I was just pointing out that in the thread, 8 inches was never implied. If you took an easily measurable line of quarters to mean an implied 8 inches, that's on you man... but honestly, nobody in the thread was implying that their dicks were 8 inches because they could line up 8 quarters on them.



The 8 quarters in a line are 7.64" long, which does in fact imply that the cock is very close to 8 inches.

You can't honestly tell me someone can really tell the difference between .36 of an inch without measuring it right in front of their face (probably couldn't tell even if you were measuring it AND it was right in front of your face). :rolleyes:

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9 quarters in a line is 8.6" long and most of the 9 quarter photos have a lot of overlapping in them (a lot of the 8 quarter photos do have overlapping as well).

Doesn't take much overlapping before you've easily lost .5 to a whole 1" off the total length of the line of quarters.
 

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Your first post said "kind of implying 8 inches"... your exact words. Then below you changed it to "very close to 8 inches". Big difference... and I was just pointing out that in the thread, 8 inches was never implied. If you took an easily measurable line of quarters to mean an implied 8 inches, that's on you man... but honestly, nobody in the thread was implying that their dicks were 8 inches because they could line up 8 quarters on them.

Uh, I never had a first post? My response to your post was my first post. :confused:

All I'm saying is that 7.64" is so close to 8" it is indiscernible. And that's true whether we're measuring penis size or anything else in this world.

And do the math, each quarter is .955" in diameter (obviously very near one whole inch) - if you didn't have a calculator and needed to know how long "8" of them would be side by side, any idiot's answer would be "Oh about 8 inches long". So it doesn't mean 100% without a doubt that the guy is 8" or longer, but there is an underlying implication there that the guy is very close to 8" long.

Is it a concrete way to measure size? No, not by any means.

Can a person fit 8 whole quarters in a perfect line on their dick and be shorter than 8" long? Yes, of course.
 
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Oh, sorry, I assumed you were the person I had quoted, responding back to me... and I didn't even look to check... my bad.

..but let's look at your logic by using an analogy, track & field to dick size. Usain Bolt set a world record for the 100 meter dash with a time of 9.58 seconds. By using your logic, someone posting a time of 9.98 seconds would be implying a world record because that number is so close to 9.58 numerically, right? Well, of course in track & field, fractions of a secondd are huge... and 9.98 is in a different time zone than 9.58. See where I'm going with this? I think it's generally understood on this site that fractions of an inch actually mean a lot. ...and dude... needing a calculator? I just used a ruler and measured the quarters.

The whole spirit of the $2 club thread was to kind of show how most size claims were off base, because so few people on the site have posted legit 8 quarter pics. So when I replied to the thread (not by you as I know now) I was bringing up the point that saying people in that thread were implying 8 inches was wayyyyyyyy off.

...and calboner who started the thread (among others) explicitly said that it's not a perfect way to measure... just that it's pretty hard to cheat without being obvious while using quaters.


Uh, I never had a first post? My response to your post was my first post. :confused:

All I'm saying is that 7.64" is so close to 8" it is indiscernible. And that's true whether we're measuring penis size or anything else in this world.

And do the math, each quarter is .955" in diameter (obviously very near one whole inch) - if you didn't have a calculator and needed to know how long "8" of them would be side by side, any idiot's answer would be "Oh about 8 inches long". So it doesn't mean 100% without a doubt that the guy is 8" or longer, but there is an underlying implication there that the guy is very close to 8" long.

Is it a concrete way to measure size? No, not by any means.

Can a person fit 8 whole quarters in a perfect line on their dick and be shorter than 8" long? Yes, of course.
 
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Oh, sorry, I assumed you were the person I had quoted, responding back to me... and I didn't even look to check... my bad.

Yep, np :wink:

..but let's look at your logic by using an analogy, track & field to dick size. Usain Bolt set a world record for the 100 meter dash with a time of 9.58 seconds. By using your logic, someone posting a time of 9.98 seconds would be implying a world record because that number is so close to 9.58 numerically, right? Well, of course in track & field, fractions of a secondd are huge... and 9.98 is in a different time zone than 9.58. See where I'm going with this? I think it's generally understood on this site that fractions of an inch actually mean a lot. ...and dude... needing a calculator? I just used a ruler and measured the quarters.

I understand what you mean with the track and field example, but I don't really see how that parallels measuring a penis with a ruler or tape measure. You're just making an emperical analogy to show the importance of tenths and hundredths of a decimal place. In lots of things that is important, however penis size it is not. So you're telling me that I have to state my size to the second decimal place now?

And it's generally understood on this site that fractions of an inch mean a lot? I've been here for years and I've never seen that be a big deal anywhere.

In fact, I'd go as far to say that fractions of an inch are actually not important at all in real life situations. Reason being, what I've stated numerous times already: that people can't easily tell the difference between things are that are 1-2 inches different in size in the real world. Let alone .5 or less of an inch in the size of a penis in the real world or a photo!

I'm mean think about what your saying here and look at how long one inch really is visually on a ruler. Or say the difference visually between 7.64" and 8" on the ruler. Or heck even the difference between 7" and 8" on the ruler. Visually, you can't say the distance between those sets of numbers is huge. If you have two different sized objects side by side, yeah it's easier to see which one is bigger. However, only having one object there and no measuring device, it can be very difficult to tell the exact size.

The whole spirit of the $2 club thread was to kind of show how most size claims were off base, because so few people on the site have posted legit 8 quarter pics. So when I replied to the thread (not by you as I know now) I was bringing up the point that saying people in that thread were implying 8 inches was wayyyyyyyy off.

That may be true, I was making a strictly empirical analysis from my end as well... my argument doesn't stem from the $2 club thread per se.

...and calboner who started the thread (among others) explicitly said that it's not a perfect way to measure... just that it's pretty hard to cheat without being obvious while using quaters.

Yeah definitely not a perfect way to measure. Hard to cheat? Maybe, but lots of guys don't do it right still.

I just like the thread because it's a way to give people an estimation of the size. They can line up 8 quarters side by side and see how long that is, then they can see that your dick has the topside surface area of at least those 8 quarters. Mission accomplished! :smile:

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hmm, these data are very interesting, however i would like to have some more information to further my understanding, it seems that the data fits in to the normal model quite well, however for this type of question it would be necessary to have access to individual data values, or at the least; the mean and standard deviation of a wide unbiased, normalized survey.

for the purpose of this thread, lets use the cancun study; those statistics concluded an average(mean) of 5.9inches with a standard deviation of 0.8 inches. lets assume that this is a representative sample of the adult male population(it is not):

0.1% of men have 2.7-3.5 inches
2% of men have 3.5-4.1 inches
14% of men have 4.3-5.1 inches
33% of men have 5.1-5.9 inches
33% of men have 5.9-6.7 inches
14% of men have 6.7-7.5 inches
2% of men have 7.5-8.3 inches
0.1% of men have 8.3-9.1 inches

meaning in a crowd of 1000 men, on average only 20 men will have a penis longer than 7.5inches, and possibly ONE man will have a penis longer than 8.3 inches.