This has probably been done before, but it is a problem that continues to exist, on and off the internet. Moreso on the internet, thanks to the anonymity, I suppose. The nature of this discussion of course means that there are always exceptions but I am just talking about the general tendencies. I am also going to limit this thread to length, though the same ideas apply for girth. Basically, this thread deals in a overview manner about the fantasy land and the reality over cock sizes. Today, not just LPSG, but several websites on the internet, there are claims of 8, 10, or even more, are rampant. Of course, these numbers are meaningless for a variety of reasons: 1) People lie, simple as that. Dont ask me to explain why, because I cant, but men and women alike love to exaggerate penis sizes. 2) Mismeasurements. Well, there is no real standard way of measuring. Despite constant attempts at standardizing i.e. those of using rulers, non bone pressed, standing up, on top of the shaft, etc. etc. people continue to measure in their own way. Sure, it is possible to measure a 6 cock as 9. After all, you did measure it, and you are not really lying, right? 3) Misperceptions. A lot of people simple like to deduce penis size by looking at them. And more often than not, especially for women, they get it wrong. I have noticed responses to my pictures in the Guess my size thread. Though this is a men-only thread, I realized most people would guess 8 based on my semi and flaccid pictures. Well, the semis in my pictures are under 7. There was another humourous porn video I came across in the Amateur Girls & Big Cocks thread. It was a candid amateur video involving a man who looked to have a genuinely large cock were talking pornstar quality. So, the girl whipped out a ruler and guess what it came out to be 7, and she didnt even measure it right. The girls reaction was 7?!?!?! How can that be 7?!?! That monster a 7?? or something to the tune. All I am saying is, people have very little clue on perceiving size in inches. So, in a real world, what exactly is the distribution like? What is average? First of all, self surveys are utterly useless for the reasons mentioned above. Even in complete anonymity, men still like to lie. Let us approach this scientifically. Surveys which are measured by a third party properly. The biggest problem is these surveys take very few men maybe a few hundreds, causing totally out of proportion sample bias. Even so, here are some figures from respective surveys 5.08; 5.35; 5.9. And the largest survey, of 3300 men, revealed 5. Here are all the figures: Human penis size - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia So, you would think, those are slightly lower than the 8 average we see around the internet, right? (Lets not get into LPSG). Consider the study with the largest average LifeStyles. Now, this is a bunch of horny American college students who are eager to have their penises measured hardly a representative sample. I mean, judging by how men seem to think of penis sizes, surely the ones with larger cocks are more likely to enroll for such a survey, right? Moreover, this survey actually utilizes measurements from the side, again overestimating. No doubt then, that Lifestyles is definitely more likely to be biased to the higher side. Here are some figures on the distribution (from this graph: Fileenis percentile.svg): - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia >6.5: 1 in 8 >7: 1 in 20 >7.5": 1 in 40-50 >8: 1 in 100 And this is actually very high figures considering the bias of the Lifestyles survey in the real world, you may be looking at 1 in a few hundred being 8. Or even 7". For 10, you may be looking at 1 in many million. Have you ever seen a cock with a clear measurement picture at 10? I sure havent. I have seen some massive, massive cocks. Many from these forums. And the largest proper measurement pic I have seen tops out at 9.5 or so. I am not going to mention who it is but it is probably the largest I have ever seen. So, that is the reality. Are there penises larger than 10 out there? Sure, but they must be extremely, extremely rare. I dont think I have seen one. As for pornstars, dont forget their actual sizes and their billed sizes are different. It is just like in wrestling, where they play around weights and heights. Its show business. It has nothing to do with reality. I was looking at the 8 measurement pic thread. There are hundreds of replies. But really, how many true measurements are there in that thread? Very, very few. I went through 10 pages, and I only found 3, I am not kidding. And this is 8, what is supposed to be average around here, lol. In the real world, this is how it works. Average size is probably closer to 5 than you may think. (that is what the largest survey shows and that is by no means definite). I would guess 5.25 as an optimistic average. Anything above 6 is a good size. Stop lying about it, its ridiculous. One guy lies, five do, and suddenly it is alright. Stop obsessing over cock sizes, concentrate on fucking, folks! And as for the 'sizequeens' who say minimum 10 inches, good luck. Though, they might not realize it to their perception 7 is 10 after all.