Really??

[L_Lynn]

I wasn't sure which category to file this under so I put it here. Sorry if that offends anyone.

This is in response to , "Which pussy is better?" http://www.lpsg.org/171489-which-pussy-is-better.html. I didn't want to get all heavy on ohyea339's enjoyment so I decided to take it to a new thread.

I opened the first picture offered in the above and to be honest, what I saw looked just like my own 7 year old daughter getting out of the bath.

I have read posts before that accuse those of us who recognize the childlike quality of hairlessness as being perverse somehow, but I beg to differ. The longer I thought about it last night, the more I concluded that it's not those of us who do make that association that are alarming, it's those of us who don't. I have to wonder about a guy that sees a hairless vagina with small, underdeveloped labia and hoots with joy that she's completely shaved and remarks with lust that she seems so untouched and DOESN'T descry the child-like quality therein.

I am not the gambling type, but I would be willing to bet money that if a picture of a 10 year old girl's vagina was put up here with the disclaimer that she was 18, a significant number of guys would comment on how they would like to smash it, lick it, fuck it, etc. and would then defend themselves that the disclaimer said she was 18. What would be significant to me is that a man would allow his own eyes to fail and without discernment or hesitation, only view it as something to fuck.

That is not only a frightening thought on it's own, for obvious reasons, but is also disheartening. In my own sphere of influence, I am trying to help women become more sexually confident, more confident in themselves in everything. I aim to raise my daughter to be a strong, self-assured woman without the hang-ups of a media induced idea of perfection or a repressed libido due to society's skewed morality. So seeing so many men show a preference for a hairless, underdeveloped vagina makes me wonder:

Are guys still seeing that nubile, young virgin as the epitome of desirability?

And furthermore, would a man in reality choose to to bed a young inexperienced girl with a great body and not a lot between her ears over a more experienced, mature woman with a good body and a mind of her own?

Have we not evolved further than that?

 

[MickeyLee]

you do realized you just insulted every woman who chooses to have a bare vag (for her own personal reasons and not a man's taste) and every woman with a smaller labia minor/clit?

real fucking nice. :irked:

of course knowing my cunt is childlike and immature explains why she's IDd every time she tries to buy booze.

eta: you talk about empowering your daughter and other women, while ripping apart a whole group of women.. not for any of their actions, but based on the preference of men, on a porn site?

my cunt is not immature. i am NOT pedophilia-lite. i don't groom to fit a porn standard. i am empowered and own my self/sexuality like a mother fucker, thank you very much.

 

[Incocknito]

To be honest the first one does look a little risque; prepubescent / pubescent. But I thought it was possible for mature females to have that sort of equipment?

I prefer a hairy, compact vagina with small labia. Basically any of those in that thread. Then again I can't say I would ever turn a pussy down for being shaved. I even shaved a pussy once myself.

You call the first picture's subject "small and underdeveloped."

But is a man "small and underdeveloped" if he is 5'5" tall?
Is a man's penis "small and underdeveloped" if it is less than 5"?
Is a woman's chest "small and underdeveloped" if it is a AA?

Maybe in your perception small and underdeveloped exists and obviously to you small and underdeveloped is bad.

But the short man, the man with the below average penis and the woman with the AA chest would probably not appreciate your perception of their ADULT body parts.

You say that you are trying to protect your daughter from corruption by the media and to give her a solid foundation of morals and values but at the same time you are directly or indirectly transferring your negativity / "body issues" / "image issues" to your daughter.

It sounds like you want your daughter to have a 'fat' pussy with meaty overhanging labia. Would it make a difference if she had a vagina like the first picture in that thread?

Would you be upset if your daughter grew up to have "small and underdeveloped" AA cup breasts?

Your "concern" over the age of the subject in the first picture is valid but it is just as valid for someone to say that the subject is 18 or 28 or 38. The fact is we just don't know.

Also, in the thread it is stated that the subject is 18 years old. Therefore in the perception of everyone reading that thread, the thoughts are of an 18 year old. There is nothing paedophilic or sinister about that.

Seems like you are colouring a legitimate, adult thread with your own slightly paranoid sexual morality.

And the last paragraph of your post just makes it sound like you aren't getting any and you're upset that younger women are getting more action than you.

Basically you are jumping to unsubstantiated and unwarranted conclusions.

 

[L_Lynn]

I apologize, MickeyLee, if I inadvertently insulted you and any other woman. That was not my intention at all. I am not commenting on women who choose to shave or who happen to have a smaller labia or clit. When you are standing there, naked in a room with a guy and he is all over it, more power to you! But in that situation, he knows who you are.

What got me thinking here was:
A. my own recognition from the picture posted,
B. the number of men who expressed a strong preference for that picture and their comments on it being hairless and looking untouched, and
C. previous threads where shaving has been the topic and others have commented that people who are reminded of pre-pubescent children are chastised as being perverts.

All of that got my train of thought running down the track to come up with the questions that I posted.

So, for the record, I am not dissing anyone who chooses to shave or who necessarily prefers a bare vag.

And if your cunt is getting ID'd every time she tries to buy booze, then she is apparently lucky to maintain her youthful appearance.

 

[Phil Ayesho]

Look, I like shaved snatch...

But what I prefer is just the lower section shaved... the upper area on the pubic bone to be shaved neatly into a pleasing shape, and the hair cut back to a very short length.


The reasons have to do with not only a neat and less mangy appearance... but with more pleasure in terms of oral contact, and the smooth sensation against my dick. Long kinky hairs in my teeth are not a turn on... they are, at best, a distraction.

Plenty of women prefer men WITHOUT the thick carpeting of back hair... many men do some level of manscaping to please a woman who might find excessive body hair a turnoff...
Most women prefer a man clean shaven... without the Saddam Hussien in the spiderhole tangle that mature men would otherwise naturally sport.

Does anyone accuse these women of preferring boys?

Seriously... this is indicative of a puritanical hysteria over sexuality that is just plain fucked up.

People look great with a nice head of hair, eyebrows that are not to bushy or run across the bridge of the nose, and other than that... GENERALLY, people find hairlessness, or at least neatly trimmed hair, more attractive than our natural spottily furred apeish fuzz.

Its a fashion. Women shave their legs cause form of the smooth leg is lovely to look at. Their skin a sensual delight to touch.

Men shave their faces because women like to see the contours of their faces... and like the feel of the cheek against their own.

SO lighten up.

And BTW- I have never met a virgin with a shaved snatch... its a feature that bespeaks a woman with some sexual experience, who either likes the sensation herself, or likes the response it elicits from a partner.

 

[D_Fiona_Farvel]

I advocate body confidence, that's it. Hairless does not mean a woman is attempting to emulate a prepubescent form. Nor does a preference for hairlessness indicate the man or woman that prefers it is morally broken or a pedophile.

Personally, my vag is naturally on the hairless side with small labia, as anyone with access to the "winter bush" pic in my album can see, and I have experienced the opposite, where a few men have requested that I grow hair that I am physically incapable of doing. This does not mean my pussy is child-like, indeed, the absolute opposite is true.

Whether someone likes it or not is, to me, irrelevant because I have confidence in my state of being. But, preferences can't be so easily categorized or explained, sometimes there's a reason, which is likely innocuous (like the sliding feels better), other times they just are and require no explanation, imo.

 

[L_Lynn]

Ho boy! I wasn't trying to stir up a lot of shit with this. I am just trying to understand the male psyche. Innocuous or not, I am curious.

For the record: my own sexual morality is just fine. As far as getting any, I get plenty. I tell my daughter she has a beautiful body and will continue to do so however she develops. I do some hair removal myself on my brows, legs, underarms and vag. (I do understand not wanting to get hair in one's teeth and the smooth feeling of hairless flesh.)

When I come across a man who is completely shaved, I am reminded for a moment of a young boy, especially if the whole package is smaller. A 7" hard-on and dropped balls are an indication of his being more mature than that. But if I were to see a photo of only a hairless, small penis and testicles on the net, even if it was claimed to belong to an 18 year old, I would question it. Just being honest.

If this is, "indicative of a puritanical hysteria over sexuality," or that I am, "colouring a legitimate, adult thread with (my) own slightly paranoid sexual morality," then what of the accusations of perversion against people who do perceive a child-like quality in such photos? Why is it perverted to recognize the fact and hesitate rather than just ignore the thought and pursue it? Incocknito is right in that we just don't know.

My questioning is based on wondering how many men do actually question it before making comment and is the preference based primarily on fashion and an aversion to pubic-hair-flossing or on a deeper intuitive desire to procreate with a youthful woman who is more likely to produce more children even if on a conscious level the men do not want any children?

Perhaps saying "underdeveloped" was a poor choice of words and I apologize for that. I thought I had made myself clearer by using "nubile" in my question. Nubile is actually an antonym to undeveloped yet still refers to youth.

So to clarify, does the attraction to a recently developed but reproductively mature virginal young woman still epitomize man's idea of desirability? And in reality, would he still be more likely to choose youth over experience?

 

[D_kvyhju]

Hi Lynn! pesonally I like a natural hairy bush, I think they look very erotic and dictate maturity, just a side note though, the hairier the better! ;-)
Hairy8

 

[D_Letha Weapons]

#1 by far. you can tell it hasn't been beatin up as much lol!

yea she has only had sex 4 times idk if mayb thats the reason but girl #2 has done it mayb 15 times with me soo if that has any thing to do with it

#1 Need some milages on it, #2 Been around the block

The above are all direct quotes from people commenting on the post in question. I'm tired and not feeling very eloquent so I'll let you draw your own conclusions based on the above.

 

[Wish-4-8]

I have not seen the thread with the pics, but I have read every post here.
Here is my take. Men like what they like, and what they like is as vaired as anything.
You will get the borderline pedos. You will get the bush country lovers. I like clean shaven with a patch on top.

In Japan, I understand that the men, in fantasy, like small, younger women, because it makes them feel bigger and they have something they can control easier. I guess in real life, they have to "put up with a woman's opinion". (from the show, Wired for Sex)

I never understood the whole "popping her cherry" mentality in men. The whole thrill of being a girl's first does nothing for me. Personally, I am not a big fan of virgens. Never been with one, and do not think I would want to.

I am getting older, and the women I choose are older. If they are still a virgen by then, that is just a red flag to me. Something is not right. Call me shallow, but it is not a turn on.

BTW, I am impressd with some of the posts here. Lots of intelligent responses.