Redefining Bisexual

[hud01]

Ive said it once and ill say it again. Bisexuals are and will always be confused about what they desire and want, its obvious in some of your postings, saying im BI but i cant have feelings for a guy only women, or i can only fuck women but only let guys blow me...WTF!!!! Bi's are selfish, they either want enjoyment without commitment with either sex, or they want commitment with only one sex and enjoyment and pleasure from both. In my experiances a true and REAL bisexual is perfectly able to have realtionship and fall in love with either sex, male/female. Most of the guys nowadays that call them self "BI" are nothing more that male whores, that cannot get sexual satisfaction from either sex, nor can they have any kind of emotional connection to both..
IMO, "BI's" are shelfish, confused men that want their cake and eat it too...

You are an angry little man. You don't get it, but you should. Being gay means you may have to fight against bigotry every week, but instead of being supporting and empathetic, you are worse than the "100%" straight who seem to be more understanding. I am the same as many others, I am not confused, I love everything about women, I want a relationship with them, I want to hold them, kiss them, and do everything with them. With men I want mutual bjs, nothing more. It is not selfish as the pleasure is achieved by both. I get the feeling you may have been burned by a so called bi-guy in the past.

 

[rjp1346]

Is it really so important that we have to label ourselves, straight, bi, or gay. What's important is how we feel in ourselves. Sex is to be enjoyed, and there is no label on that. I personally find that no matter what I find in a pair of jeans is wonderful if both parties agree that playtime has started. Male and females all have interesting bits and pieces, so enjoy play time with whomevery, wherever, and whenever you choose. It's your choice, enjoy life, have fun and play when and where you can.

 

[D_GlennFeckless]

I've always felt that labels are a succinct way of communicating something about ourselves to others. It is much more convenient to use a single syllable rough approximation of one's preferences, than to post a lengthy diatribe below your profile name about the various nuances of your sexual identity.

We are complex beings, much more so than a few simple words can nail down. As long as we're not deceiving others, those labels are generally adequate in most forums but should not be meant to convey "that's all folks!"

 

[Smaccoms]

On the Romans and Greeks, I'm just repeating what I heard. I don't have a degree on that particular matter. In the commentary of the Rome TV Show, it is said that they were very open and perceived this in a different way: the idea was less what gender you had sex with and more were you dominant or submissive.
Dominant was respectable when with men or women alike, while submissive was not.

This is more along the lines of what they thought (honestly, I don't have a degree in it either). My point is, they still had stereotypes, just different ones. One of the things they stereotyped against was how you had sex, rather than who you had it with. Honestly, the ancient Greeks and Romans didn't much appreciate females (esp in Greece, less sure of this in Rome). The males were the important ones.

Back to the subject, bi-curious might be a more common used term for the straight guys who love cock.
The premise here is that you can have sex without any emotional aspect.
After that, the basis is to know if the category defines who you can have sex with or who you could share a strong emotional link with (i.e. fall in love).

People always want to completely separate love nd sex, and then keep the traditional system with love (i.e. one gender only) while allowing more open views to sex. This idea seems bizarre to me from first glance. I plan on exploring it more once I have a chance to explore my attraction to women more directly. Until then, I feel I cannot give you a proper response.

I define myself as straight because I think it's the latter, and I could not fall in love with a guy.

...my response was too short and I had to lengthen it.

 

[Smaccoms]

I've always felt that labels are a succinct way of communicating something about ourselves to others. It is much more convenient to use a single syllable rough approximation of one's preferences, than to post a lengthy diatribe below your profile name about the various nuances of your sexual identity.

We are complex beings, much more so than a few simple words can nail down. As long as we're not deceiving others, those labels are generally adequate in most forums but should not be meant to convey "that's all folks!"

See, this is part of the issue. Having only three terms to use in order to approximately describe one's sexuality quickly isn't good enough anymore. WHen our society was too uptight to legitimately recognize homosexuals, the three tier system works. However, it doesn't match human sexuality enough to work in a gradually more open society. I think this is the problem people are having...

 

[OCMuscleJock]

Thanks Cobra

Have people here been bisexual for a part of their lives, where there was some attraction to both sexes, and possible sex with both sexes as well, and then once you've fallen in love, decided that you were no longer bisexual? Is sexual attraction just a switch you can turn on and off and "decide" to change? I don't think changing sexuality is very easy, if possible at all.

OCMuscleJock, I admire your ability to state what you feel as well as what you think. Most people cannot do both on this topic.

I enjoyed having sex with both men and women in my early 20's, and I did label myself as bisexual. But once I fell in love with a man, I recognized that my true disposition was to be sexual with men. I still have not lost my ability to find a woman sexually attractive however. I don't think I need to change that.

Have any of you read any part of Alfred Kinsey's famous studies about human sexuality?

 

[D_John Fitzwilly Kennedy]

Sex doesn't totally define who we are anymore than what party we support or what kind of music we like. And you could go on an on with that line of thinking.
I never would dare ask a straight man if he fucks his wife in the ass, but a straight man wouldn't have a problem in many cases suggesting that someone gay or bisexual is getting fucked in the ass.
And then that individual is totally defined by what that person believes they are doing in the bedroom or wherever.
There is a double standard but double standards have existed in society forever about anything.
What gets on my nerves is when you read an ad that says straight mwm wife is out, want to suck some cock.
Or straight guy wants to meet other staright guys to jo with.
Or straight man wants blow job may reciprocate.

Look, its bad enough that straight men often do put gay men and lesbians in a purely sexual category without a guy that likes sucking cock to add to the sickness.
A straight man would no more suck cocks or j/o with other hung men than a gay man would be eating pussy.
So if the word gay is so bad that other names have to be substituted just to make it palatable, why not say, cocksucker whose wife is out of town wants cock down his throat.
Cocksucker wants cock sucked and may suck in return.
Guy that likes to look at other guys cocks while he is jo would like to meet the same.

Be real is all. Nobody has a right to put you in a category, but on the other hand we could be a little more real ourselves.

 

[Bbucko]

I'm not being disingenuous here: I just really don't understand what's so terrible about using the terms bisexual and bisexuality to describe the extent of one's sexual experience. To the extent that I've familiarized myself with the Pansexual scene, it's as rigidly hierarchical and built upon roles as any other form of sexuality.

I've known dozens of well-adjusted bisexuals: hell, let's start with my own sister! Whether we like it or not, we are what we eat, what we think and what we do. I'm ordering pizza and going to bed early, but will probably wank to porn with women in it.

 

[B_Hung Jon]

Have people here been bisexual for a part of their lives, where there was some attraction to both sexes, and possible sex with both sexes as well, and then once you've fallen in love, decided that you were no longer bisexual? Is sexual attraction just a switch you can turn on and off and "decide" to change? I don't think changing sexuality is very easy, if possible at all.

OCMuscleJock, I admire your ability to state what you feel as well as what you think. Most people cannot do both on this topic.

I enjoyed having sex with both men and women in my early 20's, and I did label myself as bisexual. But once I fell in love with a man, I recognized that my true disposition was to be sexual with men. I still have not lost my ability to find a woman sexually attractive however. I don't think I need to change that.

Have any of you read any part of Alfred Kinsey's famous studies about human sexuality?

We've chatted quite a bit on lpsg over the years about exactly what is bisexuality. For me it's expressed itself in two ways in my life. First just being attracted to certain guys and having sex with them because it was exciting and new (plus they had big dicks!). Later in college I experienced falling in love with two different guys where the emotions were mutual. Actually having a relationship with another man is very different than just playing around with each others' dicks...obviously. I learned a lot about myself and what I was attracted to in people, whether girls or guys. I never considered my bisexual leanings to be "exploring" in the sense that I would eventually move on to something else, like being straight or gay. I feel the same way now. I am still attracted to some guys and to some women. It's just the way I'm constructed.

 

[dong-in-khakis]

You'll get about a million definitions of what bisexual means. Some seem to think that bi means part str8 and part something else, but not part gay.

One guy I know says he has absolutely no attraction to men whatsoever but has sucked cock, snowballed cum with a buddy, seems to spend all of his free time on the internet looking for a guy to fuck his ass, yet is as he puts it is "90% pussy with no attraction to men". WTF..?

Putting it in simple terms, bisexual means you are part str8 and part gay, you have some kind of sexual interest in both sexes.

"I'm totally str8 but suck cock" is not true. If someone is totally str8 he won't be sucking cock.

 

[B_deltaboy767]

You are an angry little man. You don't get it, but you should. Being gay means you may have to fight against bigotry every week, but instead of being supporting and empathetic, you are worse than the "100%" straight who seem to be more understanding. I am the same as many others, I am not confused, I love everything about women, I want a relationship with them, I want to hold them, kiss them, and do everything with them. With men I want mutual bjs, nothing more. It is not selfish as the pleasure is achieved by both. I get the feeling you may have been burned by a so called bi-guy in the past.

Oh hunny, I totally get, It yall that dont get it, by repeting that one can have emotional connection to women only, and objectize men, basically what i call DICKMATIZED!!! IF one is truely bisexual, they can have an emotional connection to both men and woman, Its not just a gay thing to have feelings or an emotional connection to guys..

 

[Smaccoms]

You'll get about a million definitions of what bisexual means. Some seem to think that bi means part str8 and part something else, but not part gay.

One guy I know says he has absolutely no attraction to men whatsoever but has sucked cock, snowballed cum with a buddy, seems to spend all of his free time on the internet looking for a guy to fuck his ass, yet is as he puts it is "90% pussy with no attraction to men". WTF..?

Putting it in simple terms, bisexual means you are part str8 and part gay, you have some kind of sexual interest in both sexes.

"I'm totally str8 but suck cock" is not true. If someone is totally str8 he won't be sucking cock.

Your description seems to support the percentages idea. Do you?

 

[B_bi_mmf]

This site adopts what I regard as a rather weird definition of bi.

In the photo section, your photos are filed under bi if you self-describe as anything other than 100% gay or 100% straight. Thus, people who say they are 99% gay or 99% straight are labeled as bi.

 

[houtx48]

"Most of the guys nowadays that call them self "BI" are nothing more that male whores, that cannot get sexual satisfaction from either sex, nor can they have any kind of emotional connection to both."........................... LOL This is good rant.

 

[B_Hung Jon]

"Most of the guys nowadays that call them self "BI" are nothing more that male whores, that cannot get sexual satisfaction from either sex, nor can they have any kind of emotional connection to both."........................... LOL This is good rant.

To me it is also very insulting.

 

[D_Jess_Kilme]

I've had to clarify my sexual preferences several times and some people argue with me on what I am or feel. Which is silly, only I know what I like and don't like.

So, should we re-label what guys like me ...like? IE: I don't want to date guys - zero interest. I date, hold hands, kiss, fuck and fall in love with females. Period. With guys, I want to get naked, do some oral, massage, body contact, jack and basically just 'get off' to each other's 'maleness' (oh, and no anal). That's it.

In the past, I've said I'm 'bi', but that doesn't seem to actually fit who I am apparently. Any others out there like me? Or ideas on what the category would be?

Devon Texas, you speak for a very large percentage of the male population, including very many who self identify as "straight".

There is an alternative.

What you describe is g0y (spell it with a zero). Visit g0ysrus.com to find out more.

G0y is very different from gay, bi or straight.

It is unfortunate that your very valid position has elicited such venomous responses from some of our own people. Us men who have a sexual interest in other men should stand together against the prejudice of those out there rather than slagging each other off. Gay, bi, g0y, straight, whatever!

Allow people to self identify what they are and leave it at that.

I am 50 years old. For 30 of those 50 years I have had the clarity about my sexuality that you describe so well. And no, I am not confused! I know exactly who and what I am and I am happy to be a man with clarity about where my wife and my friends slot into my life. They complete the picture that is my life.





It is regrettable that this thread has elicited such venom

 

[hud01]

"Most of the guys nowadays that call them self "BI" are nothing more that male whores, that cannot get sexual satisfaction from either sex, nor can they have any kind of emotional connection to both."........................... LOL This is good rant.

Nah..I call you an asshole

 

[Smaccoms]

Devon Texas, you speak for a very large percentage of the male population, including very many who self identify as "straight".

There is an alternative.

What you describe is g0y (spell it with a zero). Visit g0ysrus.com to find out more.

G0y is very different from gay, bi or straight.

It is unfortunate that your very valid position has elicited such venomous responses from some of our own people. Us men who have a sexual interest in other men should stand together against the prejudice of those out there rather than slagging each other off. Gay, bi, g0y, straight, whatever!

Allow people to self identify what they are and leave it at that.

I am 50 years old. For 30 of those 50 years I have had the clarity about my sexuality that you describe so well. And no, I am not confused! I know exactly who and what I am and I am happy to be a man with clarity about where my wife and my friends slot into my life. They complete the picture that is my life.





It is regrettable that this thread has elicited such venom

This is the first time I've ever seen or heard of this movement. I shall have to look into it. Read up on goys.com, and mention it at my Pride Alliance Group. So far, it looks like the male version of the feminist movement (this is just a generalized statement). I do encourage the effect I'm GUESSING it has on the homophobic portion of society; it appears to be a step in the right direction.

I cannot say anything precisely on the matter, for I have not researched it yet. I look forward to doing so.

Smaccoms

 

[Frnkd213]

I've had to clarify my sexual preferences several times and some people argue with me on what I am or feel. Which is silly, only I know what I like and don't like.

So, should we re-label what guys like me ...like? IE: I don't want to date guys - zero interest. I date, hold hands, kiss, fuck and fall in love with females. Period. With guys, I want to get naked, do some oral, massage, body contact, jack and basically just 'get off' to each other's 'maleness' (oh, and no anal). That's it.

In the past, I've said I'm 'bi', but that doesn't seem to actually fit who I am apparently. Any others out there like me? Or ideas on what the category would be?

You kinda hit the nail on the head on describing my interest. Like to talk muscle, body building and fitness. On this site Ive discovered that I can and still get off. Through video chat this have become possible. I'm with you man. Wish opportunities were available when I was in my 20s. Well they say the 50s are the new 30s. hmmmm lol

 

[Frnkd213]

I've had to clarify my sexual preferences several times and some people argue with me on what I am or feel. Which is silly, only I know what I like and don't like.

So, should we re-label what guys like me ...like? IE: I don't want to date guys - zero interest. I date, hold hands, kiss, fuck and fall in love with females. Period. With guys, I want to get naked, do some oral, massage, body contact, jack and basically just 'get off' to each other's 'maleness' (oh, and no anal). That's it.

In the past, I've said I'm 'bi', but that doesn't seem to actually fit who I am apparently. Any others out there like me? Or ideas on what the category would be?

with regards to trying to find a category or label, these things give us organization and predictability. However relying on them only deludes our expectations of what people are capable of, their interests, short comings, gifts, strengths, sexuality, character and vaues etc.
you just defined your "bi-ness" I like it may use it one day to do the same. Is it more gay? more straight? who cares. Sometime the middle way is a lot more defining.

have a great day!:smile: