Referring to transgender people as "transgenders"

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I understand the use of the word "transgenders" is considered hate speech. Is it also hate speech to refer to black people as "blacks" or gay people as "gays" or white people as "whites"? Is it offensive to refer to American people as "Americans" or French people as "French"?
 

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If I'm not mistaken it's been explained to you why calling trans individuals "transgenders" is offensive.

I never said otherwise. I'm just trying to make sure that we're exercising inclusion and tolerance to all by referring to them in a loving and respectful manner. Are you opposed to this endeavor?
 

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Do you want to answer any of my questions in my OP? Or is my simply asking such questions sufficient justification for banishment?

Your question is nonsense and you knew it before you posted it.
 

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Labels Labels Labels! Why are labels so important?

The ONLY Labels I will identify with is: I'm human, male and a christian (of sorts). Who gives a flying F! IF I'm Asian/Caucasian. Gay Bi or Straight.

My opinion only but IF I knew anyone who is transgender. I would identify her as a woman as that is what he/she was working towards and achieving. Same goes for a T-Male. I would Identify him as a Male. But if I knew said person I would identify he or she by name and NOT by gender. What gender he or she was and is now is no ones business or of importance.

The only thing of importance is identifying that person for who they are! Not what they were or has become.
 

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Your question is nonsense and you knew it before you posted it.

So how is it "hate speech" to refer to transgender people as "transgenders" but it's NOT hate speech to refer to white people as "whites", for instance? Cue the spin, contortions and threats of banishment. How dare you ask that question! LOL.
 

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So how is it "hate speech" to refer to transgender people as "transgenders" but it's NOT hate speech to refer to white people as "whites", for instance? Cue the spin, contortions and threats of banishment. How dare you ask that question! LOL.

Again, this has been explained to you before one of your bans. I'm not repeating it for the sake of giving you what you want.
 

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The OP's post history relating to trans people gives me every reason to believe that this thread was not started with the intention of insuring that he informs everyone how to respectfully speak to or about trans people.

How so? I've voiced my SUPPORT for transgender people. I respect and support everyone's right to live their life the way they see fit and to be treated with respect and consideration. Your only purpose here is to smear me with your lie that I'm some sort of a bigot.
 

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How so? I've voiced my SUPPORT for transgender people. I respect and support everyone's right to live their life the way they see fit and to be treated with respect and consideration. Your only purpose here is to smear me with your lie that I'm some sort of a bigot.

People can search your post history and see exactly what I'm talking about.
 
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Again, this has been explained to you before one of your bans. I'm not repeating it for the sake of giving you what you want.

You lack the intellectual acumen to answer the question. Your only response is to attack me and to attack the legitimacy of the question. You're trolling this thread.
 

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People can search your post history and see exactly what I'm talking about.

And they will be delighted to find that I have expressed support for transgender people. After all, if I had indeed expressed any hatred against transgender people, you would have assuredly reported it and I would have been permanently banned, correct? You're not very good at lying.
 

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Labels Labels Labels! Why are labels so important?

The ONLY Labels I will identify with is: I'm human, male and a christian (of sorts). Who gives a flying F! IF I'm Asian/Caucasian. Gay Bi or Straight.

My opinion only but IF I knew anyone who is transgender. I would identify her as a woman as that is what he/she was working towards and achieving. Same goes for a T-Male. I would Identify him as a Male. But if I knew said person I would identify he or she by name and NOT by gender. What gender he or she was and is now is no ones business or of importance.

The only thing of importance is identifying that person for who they are! Not what they were or has become.

Your response makes perfect sense, but doesn't really answer my question.

When talking about groups of white people, for instance, one may refer to them as "whites". I believe some people refer to transgender people as "transgenders" when discussing issues that pertain to all transgender people. I didn't view it as "hate speech" until recently when someone here informed me that it's a form of "hate speech". Fair enough. But if that's hate speech, then why isn't it hate speech to refer to black people as "blacks" or American people as "Americans"?
 

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I understand the use of the word "transgenders" is considered hate speech. Is it also hate speech to refer to black people as "blacks" or gay people as "gays" or white people as "whites"? Is it offensive to refer to American people as "Americans" or French people as "French"?

The words "black", "gay", and "white" all exist as both adjectives and nouns.

The word "transgender" only exists as an adjective. Your personal desire to use it as a noun does not make it so.

This has been explained to you multiple times.
 

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I didn't view it as "hate speech" until recently when someone here informed me that it's a form of "hate speech". Fair enough.

No one informed you that it was hate speech. Unknowingly using the word incorrectly is simply misspeaking.

Insisting on using the word incorrectly even after the correct usage of the word has been provided to you is where you stray into hate speech.

This has been explained to you before as well.
 

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And just so you are aware, referring to black people as "the blacks", gay people as "the gays", white people as "the whites", etc, is an anachronism.

It is much softer to use these words as adjectives as well (white voters, black students, gay consumers, whatever the context, using them as adjectives is much more cordial.
 

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You lack the intellectual acumen to answer the question. Your only response is to attack me and to attack the legitimacy of the question. You're trolling this thread.

I'm not attacking you, I'm making an observation and calling you on it.

One could argue that the thread itself is trolling. Particularly because you're asking questions that have been answered specifically To You already.
 
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And they will be delighted to find that I have expressed support for transgender people. After all, if I had indeed expressed any hatred against transgender people, you would have assuredly reported it and I would have been permanently banned, correct? You're not very good at lying.

I have no fucking clue why you *weren't* banned permanently. In my opinion, that's what should have happened.