Reporting Of Madonna 'small Dick' Ridicule

[fournineteenfiftynine]

Does this constitute "small dick ridicule"?

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Here's what it might have said if he were well endowed:

Hi Steven,
I know all about her, you dirty, sneaky, immoral, unfailthful, hot and sexy well endowed man. I forgive you. I get it. But you and your dick are mine. Please come back.
Emily

 

[spaj8987]

>> continued...
to belittle men with small penises. Who is listening to this? Impressionable young women who from them on get it lodged in their minds that size matters. Impressionable young men who are given the message loud and clear that if they're small, they're in trouble. Many survive this because they have healthy self-esteem, but others - and there are several examples in this very site - internalize it and allow it to mess with their minds. To those saying this over-rated diva is 'doing nothing wrong' , you're simply wrong, I'm afraid. You have no idea of the damage she (and to a lesser extent the woman reporting the story) may be doing to others.
And again, I ask: would a man get away with this ON A WORLD STAGE (not in the privacy of his conversations with his Neanderthal friends).

It's not that people are saying she's not doing anything wrong. It is wrong. It's just that on the wrong meter it currently doesn't make that much of a dent.

Again, body shaming is wrong. Making jokes about men with small or smaller is wrong. There's no doubt about that. Problem is in america (and in the world) wrong is currently seen as right.

And when it comes to your comparisons of body shaming with men vs women there are far far far more men body shaming women then there are women body shaming men. Not only is that the case but we have literally had people threatening women who stand against body shaming with rape and murder.

The current climate in america (and again i would imagine the world) is that either you're an sjw or you're a normal human being. Except when it comes to people making dick jokes. If you say women shouldn't feel bad about being over weight. You'll be called an sjw. If you say men shouldn't feel bad about their weight. You'll be called an sjw. If you say men shouldn't judge women on their breast, vagina, labia, hips, and so on. You'll be called an sjw. And to a lot of people in america a politically correct, virtue signaling, sjw is the worst thing a person can be.

That's the climate. Now if people DIDN'T think that way. And understood how logical it was to stand against all body shaming then you'd have different reactions to madonna. As it is though there are more people attacking others in the wrong category of body shaming than men with small or smaller.

So people CAN'T really get into why it's wrong (and it is) because they first have to find a way to get people to understand that being politically correct isn't being worse than isis. That saying people shouldn't body shame others isn't virtue signaling. And that being a social justice warrior isn't like being a nazi.

As for this...

(And again, I ask: would a man get away with this ON A WORLD STAGE (not in the privacy of his conversations with his Neanderthal friends).)

..yes. A man would and already has gotten away with even worse.

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Nugent continued: "So come to that realization. There are rabid coyotes running around. You don't wait till you see one to go get your gun. Keep your gun handy, and every time you see one, you shoot one." ]

This was a guy literally talking about killing people. Something as far as i know. Women haven't and couldn't do without receiving much more backlash. Here's another.

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This is what people who are against body shaming are up against. These are the types of guys who immediately label a person caring about body shaming sjws. It's not that people don't care or don't think penis shaming is an issue. It's that these kinds of guys are in positions of influence. And are dictating how some people think about body shaming AND as a consequence penis shaming. And they're doing it with enough support to say the above and still have people support them.

Pretty sure that's the much more pertinent issue here.

 

[DeclanBrent]

So I'm to to take it from the above responses that Justin Bieber is going to be ok saying at a concert to thousands of cheering young girls and guys that loose vaginas are just not his thing, and that tighter is better,,,
Okay, if you guys say so, happy to let it go. If that's the agreed statement of equality, I'm not gonna fight it. Love to all x

 

[spaj8987]

No. Public shaming on stage for the world is different than commercial exploitation of desire to be thin. The marketer is not "creating" the shaming in most cases, but reacting to an existing widespread mind set. Not admirable as it helps continue the obsession, but not the same.

BTW: Same thing happens in the various bogus "penis enlargement" marketing schemes.

Stop minimizing the effects of society's unrelenting assault on men with small penises. Since there is currently no push back, there is no room for minimizing. Emphasizing the issue is what is desperately needed.

I'm not minimizing anything. Those who call other sjws for being against body shaming are. That was my point. When someone says ads targeting over weight people and making them public enemy number one in the eyes of others when other health related illnesses are much more of a problem are making things worse. THEY are minimizing penis shaming.

Why and how?

Before you can get people to understand that penis size shaming isn't something people should do you first have to explain to them how damaging it can be. And how would you better express that then using the effects of body shaming?

Or maybe perhaps you think you can show people that penis size shaming is bad but somehow still keep body shaming?

Anyway, the second people are allowed to body shame women but somehow aren't able to body shame men. You got yourself the same problem you started out with. With being up against the exact same groups of people you started out being against.

Penis enlargement scams aren't the same as weight loss scams. In that the variety of both aren't equal. The amount of both aren't equal.

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We're talkiing an industry that has been around for thousands of years vs one that only came about in like the last decade. No. They do not compare. In any way shape or form.

Penis size shaming while bad. Doesn't come close to body shaming. Even in the realm of so called comedy. Body shaming is something lean on way way way way more than penis size shaming. And both get defended against by the exact same...oh they're snowflakes groups.

 

[wallyj84]

Good points, but I think by 'been with' I think she meant 'stuck with' - well, at least for longer than a few shags.

It's funny because if a rapper or another artist came out singing about bitches and whores and tits and sluts, I'd find it extremely uncomfortable and instinctively flinch from it, out of respect for the many women in my life I love and respect. The fact that some guys on this thread are defending the right of someone to bodyshame in public in 2020, in a way that would not be permitted to the opposite sex, is staggering but also very revealing.

But she didn't say that Smalls are bad, just that she doesn't want to be with them. Can't you see the difference?

 

[wallyj84]

A long time ago—probably close to 25-30 years ago, I read a story of how Madonna went with two guys to a NYC six club called the “9 Inch Club,” or something like that, and shortly afterward one of the guys came back out, alone. The writer made a comment about how the guy probably hadn’t measured up.

Weird that I remember that story and now see the comments made by Madonna now. Maybe it’s true that she prefers big penises.

Going by the $10000 for 10 inches thread there must not have been too many people in that club.

 

[Doggyfluff]

Late to this party but have a few things to throw in (apologies if they were already said)...

- I'd argue its not shaming unless you identify someone. I'm not sure if she did or not - but if not, its just a preference.
- Madonna has been spouting this kind of stuff for years - its consistently part of her brand (particularly Erotica era 30 years ago)
- Men have been judging women's bodies - publicly, and on stage - for centuries and still do. We're in no position to complain about this.
- Define a small dick? Define a big one? Hugely subjective and down to personal view. Madonna's idea of 'big' might be smaller than we think.

 

[bwhip1011]

Oh, please. It's been over 35 years and no one takes anything that she says seriously. Have you ever seen her in a one-on-one interview? I mean I love her music and showmanship, but what a box of rocks upstairs.

 

[HorseHung40's]

Madonna is a vulgar shrew, who will say anything for attention. I was wearing tennis shorts. She reached up one of the legs and squeezed my balls. I purple-nurpled her. She screamed and let go of me.

I have never been a fan of hers.

 

[j-197]

I used to like her as well but she’s a person that has been as vain as she was 30 years ago. She hasn’t grown spiritually at all. She’s desperately trying to appeal to her daughter’s generation which has got to be embarrassing to all. And whatever vocal prowess she had which wasn’t much has gone now.

Her whole spiritual enlightenment phase lasted for one album, so essentially a year or maybe 18 months. "Music" was a step backwards and that came out 2 years later. She never really matured since, she just became bitter and annoying. She was annoying before Ray of Light and annoying after it. The title track was a cover anyway, she failed to mention all of the lyrics are from a song in the 70s, and that song was easily the most well-written on the album. I can't believe the state of her songwriting these days, especially at her age. You'd think she would gain some wisdom but she never did, she just read three or four books in 1997-1998 and acted mature for a minute.

 

[BigBen]

A shocking example of the continued prejudice and bias by not only celebrities (in this case Madonna) but by the media: her recent concert in London, in which said she'd never been with a man with a small penis because 'size matters' was sympathetically reported by the Metro Friday 31 January), the UK's most widely distributed newspaper, whose female reporter said the comments 'made the tickets worth the price'.
There needs to be some sort of commission now for hate speech and body shaming. If this was said by a male star about women's breasts and vaginas and a male reporter said that the comments made the ticket price worth it, there would be an uproar the likes we have t seen for years.

Madonna Louise Ciccone is today, has always been, and will likely always be many things....top of the list is vulgar with no class. She has made a life by being publicly crude to sell herself and get people to pay attention to her. She has always been a "one hit wonder"...not her music which has sold because of a relatively small fraction of the public actually buys her product...but her one "hit" is herself acting vulgar and bitchy. That is her performance "art". She said what she said only to "shock" the audience...and again sell tickets for her next shows. All hype for herself. People watch because she is the proverbial "train wreck"...or..."freak show"....and those folks see "entertainment" in her being the vulgar person she is. The bottom line is that she has never once...to my knowledge....actually done anything to help anyone but herself...she is not known as a nice or good person....and like all "celebrities" of her ilk...I would suppose she has many mental and behavioral issues that require licensed pharmaceutical help. She is not alone though...there are others who in some degree are like her...Brittany Spears....Jennifer Lopez....the list goes on and on and on...

 

[LilJock]

As I posted earlier, I have no problem with what Madonna and other women say. What interests me is the phenomenon. I have no special knowledge, and I'm not old enough to know how it was "back then", but my impression is that it's only been in the last few years that public discussion of cock size has become fairly common. Did Howard Stern have something to do with that?

And even more recent has been female's publicly stating their preference for large cocks. And that's not just Madonna and a few female celebrities. I've heard women talk openly about it at parties.

I may be wrong but I sense a bit of "bragging" in this. They seem to be proclaiming their superior rank in the pecking order by being able to choose only guys with the biggest cocks, not like other lowly women who have to make do with smaller.

In other words, big cocks are status symbols for many women.

 

[DeclanBrent]

As I posted earlier, I have no problem with what Madonna and other women say. What interests me is the phenomenon. I have no special knowledge, and I'm not old enough to know how it was "back then", but my impression is that it's only been in the last few years that public discussion of cock size has become fairly common. Did Howard Stern have something to do with that?

And even more recent has been female's publicly stating their preference for large cocks. And that's not just Madonna and a few female celebrities. I've heard women talk openly about it at parties.

I may be wrong but I sense a bit of "bragging" in this. They seem to be proclaiming their superior rank in the pecking order by being able to choose only guys with the biggest cocks, not like other lowly women who have to make do with smaller.

In other words, big cocks are status symbols for many women.

Just like a busty young woman would've been for a guy in times gone by, although it still occurs widely. I agree with you on this, and hadn't thought of that before, but it has stirred up my memory of my girlfriend saying that when she'd duscussed her hung ex's size with her girlfriends, there'd been plenty of humorous interest from her friends. It wasn't that they hadn't slept with a bigger guy - most had, although big is widely defined - it was the fact that she was considered lucky to be fucking one at that point in her life. My girlfriend said that amused her endlessly because she's not sizeist, despite finding bigger cocks more aesthetically and physically pleasurable, and she looks back now and says: 'been there, done that, and it was great while it lasted, but I'm very pleased it did happen because now I know what the fuss is about'.

I should add to the above that I was never really badly affected by her saying him being bigger made him more pleasurable for penetrative sex and give bigger and better orgasms - what affected me most was her statement that his size flaccid had turned her on, made her wet, which is not the case with the average guys she was with after him. For some reason, that was quite wounding but as I've said before, I asked for it, being intensely curious about sex and the female exoerience. Nothing she ever told me was randomly or to hurt me - in fact, whenever she told me anything, she suffixed it with the statement, sincerely said, that she loved me more than any man she'd been with, and from that POV size was almost completely irrelevant.

 

[ripsrips]

I'm not going to read every response but I would never be with anybody that has a small penis.
Call me shallow or whatever you want but after we both got naked I might play around out of guilt but wouldn't be back with that person anymore, i say that with experience!

I have a gal fuck buddy, hanging out with her and her friends this conversation has taken place many times and every one of them said that they've turned down a second date and ended a relationship because of not physically meeting the needs they have.
When it comes down to it everybody has to decide on their own what they like and what they don't like, regardless if it hurts anybody else's feelings. it's my or your life, I'm not going to fake it to make somebody else feel good if it includes my pleasure.

 

[4544511]

All I think is that if a male artist made a similar remark about women's breasts women would be ripping him apart, but for a woman to say something like this it's "empowering". There are strange double standards in society, men are frowned upon for going to strip clubs but I can't travel through London without seeing men sexualized in Magic Mike stage show ads. Men have to be coy about owning porn magazines, while women can have erotica in public libraries. In the recent Star Wars films Rey was never shown in her underwear, but we get a random shot of topless Kylo Ren. How often was Black Widow sexualized? 0 Thor? Often. In fact, so many male superheroes are sexualized in the movies. Double standards. But it's acceptable because of how women have been treated as sex objects in the past.

The difference today is that women are sexualizing themselves; Instagram, Onlyfans, cam sites, women can't point their fingers only at men anymore at how society treats women in regards to sexualization.

 

[LilJock]

Just like a busty young woman would've been for a guy in times gone by, although it still occurs widely. I agree with you on this, and hadn't thought of that before, but it has stirred up my memory of my girlfriend saying that when she'd duscussed her hung ex's size with her girlfriends, there'd been plenty of humorous interest from her friends. It wasn't that they hadn't slept with a bigger guy - most had, although big is widely defined - it was the fact that she was considered lucky to be fucking one at that point in her life. My girlfriend said that amused her endlessly because she's not sizeist, despite finding bigger cocks more aesthetically and physically pleasurable, and she looks back now and says: 'been there, done that, and it was great while it lasted, but I'm very pleased it did happen because now I know what the fuss is about'.

I should add to the above that I was never really badly affected by her saying him being bigger made him more pleasurable for penetrative sex and give bigger and better orgasms - what affected me most was her statement that his size flaccid had turned her on, made her wet, which is not the case with the average guys she was with after him. For some reason, that was quite wounding but as I've said before, I asked for it, being intensely curious about sex and the female exoerience. Nothing she ever told me was randomly or to hurt me - in fact, whenever she told me anything, she suffixed it with the statement, sincerely said, that she loved me more than any man she'd been with, and from that POV size was almost completely irrelevant.

I really appreciated your post. It was one of the best explanations along these lines I've read. Much of it I could have written myself.

I've had many women say things along these lines:

". . . finding bigger cocks more aesthetically and physically pleasurable, and she looks back now and says: 'been there, done that, and it was great while it lasted, but I'm very pleased it did happen because now I know what the fuss is about'."

". . . saying him being bigger made him more pleasurable for penetrative sex and give bigger and better orgasms. . . that his size flaccid had turned her on, made her wet, which is not the case with the average guys she was with after him."

". . . that she loved me more than any man she'd been with, and from that POV size was almost completely irrelevant."

In other words, that bigger cocks were visually much more of a turn on and more physically pleasurable, giving bigger and better orgasms, but most still found me more attractive and better sex overall. As one, an admitted size queen, put it to a girlfriend, "Who cares, he's a hunk." For instance, my wife, who could have had any man, chose me over guys who were much better equipped.

After developmental abuse, most of us smaller aren't strong enough not to have problem with the above.

I do find it embarrassing sometimes to see size put-downs in the movies, especially when I'm with a woman. These jokes are almost never necessary and something else would have worked just as well.

However, I've never experienced anything close to "abuse" concerning my size. The few "put-downs" I've experienced I was able to shrug off. I've never considered "suicide", as someone suggested, due to having a small cock. In fact, I consider myself one of the happiest guys alive. You must learn to take the bad with the good.

As a book once said, don't sweat the small things.

 

[DeclanBrent]

@LilJock I'm glad my experience struck a note with you. I'm sure there are many millions of women who feel the same about their male partners as our female partners feel/felt about us. Realistically, I know that my size insecurities are (a) symptomatic of wider personal insecurities and (b) not completely rooted in reality - ie the majority of women (I hope) would not reject me or you based on size alone.

I agree with you on unnecessary size put-downs, which are now taboo when it's a man shaming a woman in any respect but particilarly in a physical respect and most especially in relation to genitalia.

That said, I should point out that abuse comes in many forms, including repeated, sustained put downs that chip away at a person's self esteem with damaging ramifications. I've previously related the story of my closest friend many years ago who saw me soft at the urinal. That's all it took to start a torrent of put downs that started just between the two of us and then seeped into our wider friendship circle until I eventually couldn't have an interaction with him without a sly dig being made. It got into my head so completely that I even began to see digs when they weren't there, and I started questioning myself 'is it really that terrible,such a crime, to have a small dick?'

After months of angst about dumping the best friend I've ever had, like a brother to me, I finally flipped when his girlfriend, with him sneering nearby, made a blatant dig to me about how unappealing 'acorn head' penises but, she said sweetly, 'don't worry, we all know you don't have one'. The joke was on me. That could be classified as merely a put down but at that point I saw it as abuse, pure and simple, and cut he ties.

I felt good at finally having made a stand but even to this day mourn the loss of that great friendship - all because of a couple of seconds at a fucking urinal.

 

[masonjames]

This thread reminds of this scene on the Jerry Seinfeld show. You can never tell what a man really has unless you see him hard. Many things can effect flaccid size.
I know a friend and I were looking at some picture of naked men and I said that this ine guy was good looking but had a little dick. Well it turns out my friend knew him, personally, and told me that I was wrong that he actually had a nice big dick. We all judge each other when flaccid, which is about the only condition you're gonna see another man. We are all guilty.

 

[heinz.friedrich]

There's a big difference between body (or cock) shaming and stating one's preference. It's not "flavor shaming" to state a preference for chocolate over vanilla, or red licorice over black.

Even the aside "You know size matters, don’t pretend that it doesn’t!" is simply her statement that size matters to her -- and maybe others -- not that there is something inherently bad about small cocks.

I agree with you. We dont know how other people mean it.

She has already got her karma back for that comment about penises. If she didnt mean it in an insulting manner, she cannot complain that other people think her new look is ugly for them. Because they only state their preference.

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[DeclanBrent]

Apologies, I should perhaps clarified that I was using an extreme case of tongue in cheek to make my point. I didn't make this clear in my original post. Obviously I wasn't saying people should be hauled off to jail for mocking people with small dicks. If that was the case, there wouldn't be many free people left in the west, least of all the small dicked themselves.
The point I WAS trying to make was that this is pure, unadulterated hypocrisy and worthy of some sort of censure. Unfortunately when average or large penis guys respond to these threads, it's a bit like a person with a great physique shrugging his shoulders at cruelty towards the overweight - with the great big whopping exception that in most cases weight can be changed - unlike penis size.
My main point of criticism is towards a cultural icon using her elevated status (on stage, not in life - I'm not one of those who think having a mediocre pop voice and a filthy mouth makes you greater than any poor peasant anywhere in the world)