Reporting Of Madonna 'small Dick' Ridicule

[Llbaker]

@Llbaker Right and what exactly will you do about it? Lets say women all across the world were to only start dating men with large dicks. While talking shit about men with little dicks? What will you personally do? Protest? Create movements against it? Start a civil rights movement? Try to tell people that body shaming is wrong? Tell them that treating others badly because of the way they were born is wrong?

Nope. My guess is all you'll do and all you'll ever do is make one or two threads about it. Ignore those trying to help you. Attack famous women here and there over nothing. And sit with it.

So basically nothing. You guys will never do anything of note specifically because you know who you're REALLY up against and avoid those men like the plague.

All the while those men will be actively making fun of you. I could be wrong but what's the plan there? Cause as far as i can tell.

Men create penis size shaming, push penis size shaming and actively attack any and all who are against. While you and others : Dangit those pesky womanz. lol

No. I've always pointed out that the phallocracy is a male thing. A few women pick it up as a shaming method.

I'm at the stage of analysis and exploring how people react to pointing out this issue. The problem is that you would have to "out yourself" as small to trying create a movement. Maybe nothing practical will ever happen.

 

[Llbaker]

This thread is about a woman: Madonna. That doesn't mean women are the main problem in this issue. Far from it!

 

[spaj8987]

@Llbaker And? I've outted myself as a black man when talking about racism. Are you afraid the same things that have happened to me on this site will happen to you? I've also spoken out against racism as a black man in the real world. You afraid the same things that have happened to black men who've done that will happen to you if you come out?

What exactly are you afraid will happen? That you'll be treated like those who are against racism? That you'll be treated the same as those who are against sexism? That you'll be treated the same as those who are against homophobia and transphobia?

If so....boy do i fucking get it.

I completely and utterly get it. If that is what you're afraid of. We've almost fucking mind melded. I don't want to be ridiculed. I don't want people bending the breaking rules to take me out. I don't want people lying about me. I don't want people banding together and coming up with plans to take me out. I don't want every time i go to say something on a forum for there to be people who will attack me over me trying to defend others.

I get it. And it's more than understandable. It's like david and goliath. Problem is, you're david's cod piece. lol Up against problems that are seemingly so massive, so accepted and so untalked about that it seems daunting.

So yes. I can more than understand why you only relegate your focus and attention in certain places at certain times. Saving your energies for issues that effect you the most in ways you think may help you out the most.

Here's where the biggest issue comes in.

You don't hold others to the same standard by which you hold yourself. You allow yourself not to speak on others issues. And yet....expect others to speak about yours.

And now. I get that too.

 

[Llbaker]

Please! In real life Black people cannot hide they are Black. Also, Black people are as guilty of penis shaming just as much as any other group in society. Small penis shaming is far more accepted than racism in today's society.

Nothing of the sort matters on anonymous forums.

 

[Llbaker]

@Llbaker And? I've outted myself as a black man when talking about racism. Are you afraid the same things that have happened to me on this site will happen to you? s at certain times. Saving your energies for issues that effect you the most in ways you think may help you out the most.

Apparently, you haven't read much of my participation in "Wally's" threads. I have been demonized extensively on this site and put on ignore by the "activists" against my message.

 

[spaj8987]

@Llbaker I was just saying i get why you do what you do. Across the board.

 

[Llbaker]

@Llbaker You don't hold others to the same standard by which you hold yourself. You allow yourself not to speak on others issues. And yet....expect others to speak about yours.

And now. I get that too.

But that is not true.

I even speak on the issues of others you mention in person, in public as well as here.

Plenty of push back here on those issues, so it just isn't my focus.

 

[DeclanBrent]

As I posted earlier, I have no problem with what Madonna and other women say. What interests me is the phenomenon. I have no special knowledge, and I'm not old enough to know how it was "back then", but my impression is that it's only been in the last few years that public discussion of cock size has become fairly common. Did Howard Stern have something to do with that?

And even more recent has been female's publicly stating their preference for large cocks. And that's not just Madonna and a few female celebrities. I've heard women talk openly about it at parties.

I may be wrong but I sense a bit of "bragging" in this. They seem to be proclaiming their superior rank in the pecking order by being able to choose only guys with the biggest cocks, not like other lowly women who have to make do with smaller.

In other words, big cocks are status symbols for many women.

Just like a busty young woman would've been for a guy in times gone by, although it still occurs widely. I agree with you on this, and hadn't thought of that before, but it has stirred up my memory of my girlfriend saying that when she'd duscussed her hung ex's size with her girlfriends, there'd been plenty of humorous interest from her friends. It wasn't that they hadn't slept with a bigger guy - most had, although big is widely defined - it was the fact that she was considered lucky to be fucking one at that point in her life. My girlfriend said that amused her endlessly because she's not sizeist, despite finding bigger cocks more aesthetically and physically pleasurable, and she looks back now and says: 'been there, done that, and it was great while it lasted, but I'm very pleased it did happen because now I know what the fuss is about'.

I should add to the above that I was never really badly affected by her saying him being bigger made him more pleasurable for penetrative sex and give bigger and better orgasms - what affected me most was her statement that his size flaccid had turned her on, made her wet, which is not the case with the average guys she was with after him. For some reason, that was quite wounding but as I've said before, I asked for it, being intensely curious about sex and the female exoerience. Nothing she ever told me was randomly or to hurt me - in fact, whenever she told me anything, she suffixed it with the statement, sincerely said, that she loved me more than any man she'd been with, and from that POV size was almost completely irrelevant.

 

[DeclanBrent]

But that is not true.

I even speak on the issues of others you mention in person, in public as well as here.

Plenty of push back here on those issues, so it just isn't my focus.

This problem - the problem of size shamers being permitted to get away with size shaming - will never be addressed until something big happens. A celebrity talks about a younger brother who committed suicide because of being size shamed by a girlfriend or his friends. And even that won't bring down the walls. It'll take several such cases, or variations of cases, to spike the public consciousness and get people talking about it. Like MeToo suddenly broke the sexual harassment wall. I doubt it will happen in this generation, especially because porn has exacerbated the issue rather than created a platform for rational discussion.
And there is no gender that's blameless here. It's not just men who belittle their fellow men, it's women too. Size shamers come in all colours, genders, orientations - even small guys can be cruel to their fellow smalls.

 

[Llbaker]

Nothing she ever told me was randomly or to hurt me - in fact, whenever she told me anything, she suffixed it with the statement, sincerely said, that she loved me more than any man she'd been with, and from that POV size was almost completely irrelevant.

You are lucky the way things worked-out. In your case, you were lucky she was experience and your personal relationship powerful enough to withstand the shock.

 

[Llbaker]

My girlfriend said that amused her endlessly because she's not sizeist, despite finding bigger cocks more aesthetically and physically pleasurable, and she looks back now and says: 'been there, done that, and it was great while it lasted, but I'm very pleased it did happen because now I know what the fuss is about'.

After developmental abuse, most of us smaller aren't strong enough not to have problem with the above.

 

[ripsrips]

I'm not going to read every response but I would never be with anybody that has a small penis.
Call me shallow or whatever you want but after we both got naked I might play around out of guilt but wouldn't be back with that person anymore, i say that with experience!

I have a gal fuck buddy, hanging out with her and her friends this conversation has taken place many times and every one of them said that they've turned down a second date and ended a relationship because of not physically meeting the needs they have.
When it comes down to it everybody has to decide on their own what they like and what they don't like, regardless if it hurts anybody else's feelings. it's my or your life, I'm not going to fake it to make somebody else feel good if it includes my pleasure.

 

[Llbaker]

I'm not going to read every response but I would never be with anybody that has a small penis.

Call me shallow or whatever you want but after we both got naked I might play around out of guilt but wouldn't be back with that person anymore, i say that with experience!

I have a gal fuck buddy, hanging out with her and her friends this conversation has taken place many times and every one of them said that they've turned down a second date and ended a relationship because of not physically meeting the needs they have.

When it comes down to it everybody has to decide on their own what they like and what they don't like, regardless if it hurts anybody else's feelings. it's my or your life, I'm not going to fake it to make somebody else feel good if it includes my pleasure.

Ok, we're talking about shaming here, especially public shaming, not selecting large if that is what you want.

 

[DeclanBrent]

@ripsrips At least you're honest. That's better than being a hypocrite. Of course, what you say about your gal friend and her friends is exactly what me and fellow smalls instinctively know and fear, despite the endless chorus of people here and elsewhere who insist until their eyes pop out that size really doesn't matter to hardly anybody.

The question I'd have for you is after you'd played around with the small, and decided to never see them again, did you trash talk them to your friends? Did you mention they were small to anybody who might meet them afterwards? Do you approve of people being able to say, regardless of their audience, that small just doesn't cut it? And, for my own selfish validation, where are you drawing the limit at small? How small would a guy have to be for you to never want to see him again?

 

[ripsrips]

Ok, we're talking about shaming here, especially public shaming, not selecting large if that is what you want.

I'll go back to when

@ripsrips At least you're honest. That's better than being a hypocrite. Of course, what you say about your gal friend and her friends is exactly what me and fellow smalls instinctively know and fear, despite the endless chorus of people here and elsewhere who insist until their eyes pop out that size really doesn't matter to hardly anybody.

The question I'd have for you is after you'd played around with the small, and decided to never see them again, did you trash talk them to your friends?
No, I didn't trash talk, I did mention that that man was small, but not not to discourage anyone from meeting them.
My comment was, "that guy I hooked up with was pretty small" I left it at that. I never put any thought about them again. I moved on.
Did you mention they were small to anybody who might meet them afterwards? Nope, as there is someone out there that might find him irresistible. Do you approve of people being able to say, regardless of their audience, that small just doesn't cut it? If it's with your group of friends say what you want about cock size, just don't go out of your way to point the man out.
And, for my own selfish validation, where are you drawing the limit at small? 4 inches would be tough to make a commitment to. How small would a guy have to be for you to never want to see him again?

 

[DeclanBrent]

Interesting story about Katy Perry pulling down the pants of model Josh Kloss at a party so everyone could see his penis. He'd worked with her on one of her videos. He subsequently spoke of his humiliation at her act, and the fact that 'men with too much power acting badly' theme can be just as disgusting and harmful when it's a wonan who has power and acts badly.

This was taken from an article about the incident:
Penis shaming can really have a detrimental effect, and when you understand that, you understand why Perry’s action was so out of order. “Look at his dick, everyone.” It’s a man’s worst nightmare – to have your most vulnerable thing laid out for everyone to giggle at, is primal degradation. It will no doubt have haunted Kloss all this time, and you believe him when he says he’s not speaking out for monetary gain, just so that people will know how abuses of power can be meted out by all genders, and understand how much this can affect a person.

 

[ripsrips]

@ripsrips At least you're honest. That's better than being a hypocrite. Of course, what you say about your gal friend and her friends is exactly what me and fellow smalls instinctively know and fear, despite the endless chorus of people here and elsewhere who insist until their eyes pop out that size really doesn't matter to hardly anybody.

The question I'd have for you is after you'd played around with the small, and decided to never see them again, did you trash talk them to your friends? Did you mention they were small to anybody who might meet them afterwards? Do you approve of people being able to say, regardless of their audience, that small just doesn't cut it? And, for my own selfish validation, where are you drawing the limit at small? How small would a guy have to be for you to never want to see him again?

BTW
I filled my answers in my reply above you should have to click and expand.
I put them in bold following each of your questions

 

[4544511]

All I think is that if a male artist made a similar remark about women's breasts women would be ripping him apart, but for a woman to say something like this it's "empowering". There are strange double standards in society, men are frowned upon for going to strip clubs but I can't travel through London without seeing men sexualized in Magic Mike stage show ads. Men have to be coy about owning porn magazines, while women can have erotica in public libraries. In the recent Star Wars films Rey was never shown in her underwear, but we get a random shot of topless Kylo Ren. How often was Black Widow sexualized? 0 Thor? Often. In fact, so many male superheroes are sexualized in the movies. Double standards. But it's acceptable because of how women have been treated as sex objects in the past.

The difference today is that women are sexualizing themselves; Instagram, Onlyfans, cam sites, women can't point their fingers only at men anymore at how society treats women in regards to sexualization.

 

[DeclanBrent]

BTW
I filled my answers in my reply above you should have to click and expand.
I put them in bold following each of your questions

@ripsrips Ah I see now, thanks again for the honesty. Your answers are pretty much what I'd expect from most gay/bi guys and women who prefer larger but don't want to hurt the smaller guy. My frustration mostly is with people here and elsewhere who swear to the death that people like you and your friends don't exist. Yes, preferences do exist. But the correct way to deal with them is through acknowledging that without belittling or judging, and that would help bring about the fairer world that people like myself and @Llbaker are seeking.
Thanks again.

 

[DeclanBrent]

@TS_BlackBird Thanks for your contribution. I suspect the tension between the sexes in this regard lies in the fact that men are traditionally more powerful and aggressive when it comes to sex and therefore are more historically threatening in society (rape, violence etc) When men exercise their sexuality - at least in the past - it has been in an abusive way that society would not expect of women. Following that logic, sexually aggressive women are deemed 'safer' to be around, less threatening to men and other women, and therefore far more acceptable in society than the characteristic sexually driven male. Throw the escalating tendency to balance gender power into the mix, and it's clear that the 'sexing' up (or empowering) of women while 'de-aggressing' men is seen as one way of equalising society. In reality all I think it's doing is fucking with nature's natural laws. That's not to say I think men can behave badly - just the opposite as men have an appalling record of sexual violence and clearly that needed to be addressed as we became more civilised. But as is typical with the human race, everything is done to extremes. Society says it wants equality but in fact it wants what it's always wanted - gender warfare, because despite what we're led to believe - that it's all about achieving harmony - we're never happier than when we're at war with each other.