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he's also the only candidate to mention, and vote along the lines of, the constitution. and the only US Representative that the lobbiests won't waste their time trying to influence.

Sorry, I was mistaken. Ron Paul is a US Representative, not a senator
 

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I dont vote replubican because they always stand for hate, your reponse to my post is a typical backwoods hillbilly response.

I think that political dialogue in an open forum is extremely beneficial. Yet when someone generalizes an entire population and says they are based on "hate" Im floored. It is no secret that the dems for years have touted themselves as the "accepting", "kind","non judgemental" party. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact if you dare not think exactly as they do on all topics well the result will be school yard like name calling such as this.
Ive never done anything in my entire life based on "hate" and I resent being told that.
A solution is to disagree with peoples political views, dont dislike people because of their political views.
 

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I think that political dialogue in an open forum is extremely beneficial. Yet when someone generalizes an entire population and says they are based on "hate" Im floored. It is no secret that the dems for years have touted themselves as the "accepting", "kind","non judgemental" party. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact if you dare not think exactly as they do on all topics well the result will be school yard like name calling such as this.
Ive never done anything in my entire life based on "hate" and I resent being told that.
A solution is to disagree with peoples political views, dont dislike people because of their political views.


Im just going by what i know, I know that all republicans arent GWs but when the republican politicians represent themselves as anti-gay, anti-womens rights and war, then I feel justified in my comments. Your right, democrates aren't much better but, Ill take the lesser of two evils
 

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Name one republican thats for gay right?

Guiliani:

What is your position on the proposed constitutional amendment that defines marriage as between a man and a woman?

I don't think we need a constitutional amendment at this point. If states begin to establish gay marriage through judicial activism then we should have a constitutional amendment.

What is your position on civil unions between same sex partners?


I clearly believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman, although I did support domestic partnerships and still do, [as] a contractual relationship.

McCain:

What is your position on the proposed constitutional amendment that defines marriage as between a man and a woman?

I believe the institution of marriage should be protected and defined as a union between one man and one woman. This definition recognizes the fundamental role of the traditional family in shaping, stabilizing and strengthening our communities and our nation. I agree with the Founding Fathers that, as with most issues critical to the preservation and health of our civil society, the basic responsibility for preserving and strengthening the traditional family should reside at the level of government closest to the people. Where State and local governments act to preserve the traditional family the Courts should not overstep their authority and thwart the Constitutional right of the people to protect the traditional family. If the Supreme Court should ever exceed its Constitutional authority and strike down state or local laws designed to protect the traditional family, I would support a Constitutional amendment to define the family as a union between one man and one woman.

What is your position on civil unions between same sex partners?

While, as a federalist, I recognize the right of the states to regulate the institution of marriage and to pass civil union laws, I strongly believe in the current law that declares that no other state should be legally bound to recognize same sex marriages or unions that might be legal in other places. But while the citizens of each state should decide this question, I personally oppose civil unions that for all intents and purposes confer the same status as traditional marriage. I am not against people entering into contracts or exchanging powers of attorney, a right that most states already afford to all citizens, regardless of sexual orientation. While, as a federalist, I recognize the right of the states to regulate the institution of marriage and to pass civil union laws, I strongly believe in the current law that declares that no other state should be legally bound to recognize same sex marriages or unions that might be legal in other places. But while the citizens of each state should decide this question, I personally oppose civil unions that for all intents and purposes confer the same status as traditional marriage. I am not against people entering into contracts or exchanging powers of attorney, a right that most states already afford to all citizens, regardless of sexual orientation.


And a link to the Democrats view:

Don't ask, they'll tell - National Journal - MSNBC.com


Im just going by what i know, I know that all republicans arent GWs but when the republican politicians represent themselves as anti-gay, anti-womens rights and war, then I feel justified in my comments. Your right, democrates aren't much better but, Ill take the lesser of two evils

Read each candidate's views in both parties. There are a lot of issues.

And there are gay Republicans trying to make a change:

Log Cabin Republicans
 

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McCain was former Navy, not AF. He was a POW during Vietnam.

As of right now he has my vote as he is the only candidate with any substance. Also, the way he firmly said "No torture" during the Republican debates earlier this year when all the others were trying to one up each other on just how tough they wanted to be on suspected terrorists. Doesn't really matter how you feel about the torture issue, McCain is the only candidate i've seen who has had teh balls to stand up for what he believes in.

Clinton - Machine Democrat
Obama - what has he done?
Edwards - his dad, Al Gore, called. He wants his hair back.
Romney - Machine Republican
Giuliani - dude, go back to New York
Huckabee - i fear electing him may mean I see more of those useless Christian inspired movies at Blockbuster. Its hard enough as is trying to find a good film to rent
Ron Paul - will stop being a candidate as soon as using his name as a buzzword stops being cool
 

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Guiliani:

What is your position on the proposed constitutional amendment that defines marriage as between a man and a woman?

I don't think we need a constitutional amendment at this point. If states begin to establish gay marriage through judicial activism then we should have a constitutional amendment.

What is your position on civil unions between same sex partners?

I clearly believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman, although I did support domestic partnerships and still do, [as] a contractual relationship.

McCain:

What is your position on the proposed constitutional amendment that defines marriage as between a man and a woman?

I believe the institution of marriage should be protected and defined as a union between one man and one woman. This definition recognizes the fundamental role of the traditional family in shaping, stabilizing and strengthening our communities and our nation. I agree with the Founding Fathers that, as with most issues critical to the preservation and health of our civil society, the basic responsibility for preserving and strengthening the traditional family should reside at the level of government closest to the people. Where State and local governments act to preserve the traditional family the Courts should not overstep their authority and thwart the Constitutional right of the people to protect the traditional family. If the Supreme Court should ever exceed its Constitutional authority and strike down state or local laws designed to protect the traditional family, I would support a Constitutional amendment to define the family as a union between one man and one woman.

What is your position on civil unions between same sex partners?

While, as a federalist, I recognize the right of the states to regulate the institution of marriage and to pass civil union laws, I strongly believe in the current law that declares that no other state should be legally bound to recognize same sex marriages or unions that might be legal in other places. But while the citizens of each state should decide this question, I personally oppose civil unions that for all intents and purposes confer the same status as traditional marriage. I am not against people entering into contracts or exchanging powers of attorney, a right that most states already afford to all citizens, regardless of sexual orientation. While, as a federalist, I recognize the right of the states to regulate the institution of marriage and to pass civil union laws, I strongly believe in the current law that declares that no other state should be legally bound to recognize same sex marriages or unions that might be legal in other places. But while the citizens of each state should decide this question, I personally oppose civil unions that for all intents and purposes confer the same status as traditional marriage. I am not against people entering into contracts or exchanging powers of attorney, a right that most states already afford to all citizens, regardless of sexual orientation.


And a link to the Democrats view:

Don't ask, they'll tell - National Journal - MSNBC.com




Read each candidate's views in both parties. There are a lot of issues.


Hes still a little wishy-washy about it, he says no amendment unless states,like Mass, take it upon themselves to support gay marriage, then he would support an amendment, Am I reading this right? I don't think there is a Politician, Rep or Dem, that supports full gay marriage rights, I could be wrong. As far as Im concerned the Dems are a better choice and thats the way ill be voting. Always have, always will. Thanks for the info Italian978
 

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Any one who is Anti Gay, Anti Womens rights should be run out of goverment on a rail. You make a good point in Anti Womens rights and the world witnessed real agression on women two weeks ago when Bhutto was shot to death in Pakistan. Ive always found it amazing that the women of that entire region are the ones who have taken the brunt of radical fundementalism. Afterall when theres famine in Sudan or Somalia its mainly the women and children who starve. The men are all riding around in the backs of toyota pick up's with machine guns.
If an Afgan women exposed her face or legs under the talaban she was wiped. Homesexual men where hanged.
Many of these things are not happening today yet those who voted to place troops in the region are critized beyond belief. I dont think we have many "anti" anyones in the goverment today from either party.

I have no idea who I will vote for as Im not impressed with any of them. I think they are all liars and will say anything to get elected.
 

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I think that political dialogue in an open forum is extremely beneficial. Yet when someone generalizes an entire population and says they are based on "hate" Im floored. It is no secret that the dems for years have touted themselves as the "accepting", "kind","non judgemental" party. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact if you dare not think exactly as they do on all topics well the result will be school yard like name calling such as this.
You could substitute "liberals" for "Dems" and still have a correct commentary.
Ive never done anything in my entire life based on "hate" and I resent being told that.
A solution is to disagree with peoples political views, dont dislike people because of their political views.
Thanks for saying something liberals/democrats should be saying.

Bad news: you may as well be talking to a brick wall.
 

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You make a good point in Anti Womens rights and the world witnessed real agression on women two weeks ago when Bhutto was shot to death in Pakistan

That had nothing to do with women's rights....If you find any respectable publication that says so, please send a link.
 

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True.. .but my boss called during that part so my word selection went south. Liberals is a better word.
 

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I don't think there is a Politician, Rep or Dem, that supports full gay marriage rights, I could be wrong. As far as Im concerned the Dems are a better choice and thats the way ill be voting. Always have, always will. Thanks for the info Italian978

I could be wrong, but I don't think any of the Democrats running for president endorse marriage rights for gays, only civil unions.
 

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You make a good point in Anti Womens rights and the world witnessed real agression on women two weeks ago when Bhutto was shot to death in Pakistan

That had nothing to do with women's rights....If you find any respectable publication that says so, please send a link.

The first one I would reference would be Vanity Fair. This is a region of the world where women cant drive cars moreless run for office. I really liked her and her ideas and believe had she not been female she would still be here.
 

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Democrats= party that hates white men and white men who sympathize with the white men hate.

As a white guy who has never voted Republican in his life, this is perhaps deserving of a lifetime award for most absurd generalization on LPSG (an there was stiff competition).
 

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Anything but Mitt Romney, he is almost like a Hollywood sleazy politician.

Mitt "Naughty Kamasutra Mormon" Romney is hot. :wink: He does have a bit of sleazy sex appeal though.

Since I am a Democrat and Romney is Republican, I am not voting for Mitt Romney.

I will vote for the best Democratic candidate for the job.
 

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I could be wrong, but I don't think any of the Democrats running for president endorse marriage rights for gays, only civil unions.

Kucinich and Gravel, they are not actually expecting to get elected, though.

Gravel committed to me to co sponsoring a bill adding sexual orientating to the civil rights act of 1964 in 1980. (I was volunteering on his campaign)

I would prefer that they be allowed to participate in the debates.

Lesbian Life, Work, School & Home - Profiles

http://www.gravel/2008.us/node/396
 

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Then why are you a republican? You clearly are outnumbered in this party.

Because Im more of a fiscal conservative and social libral. I dont really care what you do in your personal life as long as I dont have to pay for it. My belief is that our elected leaders have no right to incur debt in the name of the taxpayer. Most never truely share their beliefs only what big program they want to implement. ie heath care for kids. except not one mentioned they consider kids up to age 35. 9 trillion in debt I believe will cost you and I our current standard of living.