Republican Hopefuls Give a Glimpse - GOP Foreign Policy

[b.c.]

This article from Slate.com on Saturday's Republican presidential debate reveals the GOP plan for "the new world order" no doubt. Said author Kaplan,

"God help us if any of these jokers make it into the White House."

Funny, sounds almost exactly like what I said in this forum six weeks ago (though I think I used the word "fucks").

Does Michele Bachmann want the U.S. to be more like China? - Slate Magazine

Anyway, some "gems" from the article:

"If you look at China, they don't have food stamps.They don't have the modern welfare state, and China's growing," [Bachmann] exclaimed, adding: "And so what I would do is look at the programs that LBJ gave us with the Great Society and they'd be gone."

Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, and Santorum all said that, if sanctions and covert ops failed, they would stop the Iranian nuclear program through military action.

Bachmann leapt in to say she’s fine with waterboarding, too, and complained that, under President Obama, "the ACLU is running the CIA."

Cain was remarkably honest about how little he knows, about anything.

Finally, the dumbest remark of the night … well, the second-dumbest, after Bachmann’s head-turner on China’s admirable free-market economy: Gingrich, saying that every candidate up on the stage would be “superior to the current administration.”

 

[houtx48]

LOL............ I saw that clip earlier today......Makes one wonder how batshit crazy one can be and still win elections.

 

[b.c.]

^About as batshit crazy as one's constituency, I'd imagine.

 

[SilverTrain]

^About as batshit crazy as one's constituency, I'd imagine.

George Wallace.........David Duke...........Scott Walker..........

 

[Mensch1351]

LOL............ I saw that clip earlier today......Makes one wonder how batshit crazy one can be and still win elections.

...........well --- it NOW depends upon how many people think they can "paint" you as a winner for the express purpose of manipulating you once you're in power. And of course there's the money........it doesn't make any difference if a candidate can put 2 rational thoughts together.....MONEY talks! And once the Republicans get through fiddling with our right to vote all in the "name' of voter fraud, in some States --- Quasimodo could probably get elected Governor with the right people behind him!

Ooops -- I did also forget the wedge issues. All it takes in some States is a perceived Savior delivering them from whatever current fear they're trying to supress!

 

[AmiralMauth]

I wonder why people on the left are so quick to call Bachmann "insane" for this lone comment when Thomas Friedman has said on multiple occasions that the US should be China for a day because then we wouldn't have political disagreements.

 

[b.c.]

I wonder why people on the left are so quick to call Bachmann "insane" for this lone comment when Thomas Friedman has said on multiple occasions that the US should be China for a day because then we wouldn't have political disagreements.

Well, for one, Friedman isn't running for President of the United States...not yet at least.

 

[hot-rod]

LOL............ I saw that clip earlier today......Makes one wonder how batshit crazy one can be and still win elections.

Hey, I can't even look at the TV screen while any of these people are speaking, I am soo ashamed and I'm not even associated with these characters. They think that they are going to silence all these protesters???? You just stand back and watch. Just wait until next year before the election. The 60's all over again...........lol

 

[dude_007]

I wonder why people on the left are so quick to call Bachmann "insane" for this lone comment when Thomas Friedman has said on multiple occasions that the US should be China for a day because then we wouldn't have political disagreements.

I doubt any liberal is calling Bachmann insane for just one reason.

 

[Bbucko]

I doubt any liberal is calling Bachmann insane for just one reason.

I have a number of conservative friends who think she's batshit crazy, too.

 

[Zeuhl34]

I doubt any liberal is calling Bachmann insane for just one reason.

While I live in a very left-leaning city, I know people on all ends of the political spectrum, and not one of them think Bachmann is anything close to sane.

 

[Perados]

earthquakes... Hurricanes... who many more signs does god have to send to america till it notic that something is going wrong :biggrin1:

 

[b.c.]

It's the end of the world as we know it.

 

[ColonialBoy]

I doubt any liberal is calling Bachmann insane for just one reason.

Nobody that batshit crazy would come near to being nominated to run Australia. Just install Cain/Palin to go full retard.
What on earth has happened to the USA, were are the good democrat/republican candidates of the past, why do people take the stooge candidates seriously.

 

[Bbucko]

They don't really

 

[AmiralMauth]

Does anyone really, seriously think that Michele Bachmann's China statement was insane, or indicative of insanity? I'm really failing to see how such views might be justified.

In an attempt to attack welfare statism (objectively, not really an insane thing to do), she pointed out that China has growth but not a certain form of welfare statism that those in the US "enjoy". This is not insane.

If you wish to justify the belief that Michele Bachmann is "insane" on the basis of other statements she's made, then by all means, attempt to do so. Seriously, though? Correctly pointing out that China has no food stamps but economic growth makes one insane? Come on.

 

[b.c.]

Does anyone really, seriously think that Michele Bachmann's China statement was insane, or indicative of insanity? I'm really failing to see how such views might be justified.

In an attempt to attack welfare statism (objectively, not really an insane thing to do), she pointed out that China has growth but not a certain form of welfare statism that those in the US "enjoy". This is not insane.

If you wish to justify the belief that Michele Bachmann is "insane" on the basis of other statements she's made, then by all means, attempt to do so. Seriously, though? Correctly pointing out that China has no food stamps but economic growth makes one insane? Come on.

Bachmann's comments only serve to underscore her total lack of knowledge of certain realities, primarily that China has over the decades undergone changes and has at various times instituted state mandated policies with regard to the "welfare" of its citizens. See:

Social welfare in the People's Republic of China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_health_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China

Though no doubt Bachmann would have us more like China: limits on personal freedoms, a state run economy, internet censorship, and high mortality from the massively unregulated industries there that pollute their air and water and kill thousands of their own people.

But here's the rub: this is a person who aspires to be the next leader of the "free world" speaking in admiration of one of the last communist regimes in the world. What?? From the party who's always calling someone else a "socialist"???

Can you frekin' imagine the shit storm that would've resulted had Obama made such remarks?

 

[AmiralMauth]

Your conclusion that Michele Bachmann has a "total lack of knowledge" on China and its lack of static policies over the decades is baseless.

I strongly suspect that persons on this site say Michele Bachmann want us to be more like China in the nasty ways simply because she is a conservative Republican. It is by no means clear that her political ideologies would necessitate the conversion of the US into a tyrannical state. If one wishes to attack Michele Bachmann's politics, one can certainly do so without numbing people to the "She's taking us to communism/fascism/socialism" noise.

It's sort of ironic that you baselessly claimed Michele Bachmann is ignorant w/ respect to China before going on to say that she admires China overall despite that it's a communist country. China today is not exactly a communist country.

I have been unable to find instances of Michele Bachmann calling Obama a socialist, but perhaps my Googling skills are poor. Maybe you can help me out here.

I don't really feel a reason to speculate as to what might have happened if Obama praised a single aspect of China. The point I have been trying to make is that it is really indefensible to say that Michele Bachmann is stupid because she pointed out that China has economic growth but no food stamps.

 

[itsthepopei]

Your conclusion that Michele Bachmann has a "total lack of knowledge" on China and its lack of static policies over the decades is baseless.

I strongly suspect that persons on this site say Michele Bachmann want us to be more like China in the nasty ways simply because she is a conservative Republican. It is by no means clear that her political ideologies would necessitate the conversion of the US into a tyrannical state. If one wishes to attack Michele Bachmann's politics, one can certainly do so without numbing people to the "She's taking us to communism/fascism/socialism" noise.

It's sort of ironic that you baselessly claimed Michele Bachmann is ignorant w/ respect to China before going on to say that she admires China overall despite that it's a communist country. China today is not exactly a communist country.

I have been unable to find instances of Michele Bachmann calling Obama a socialist, but perhaps my Googling skills are poor. Maybe you can help me out here.

I don't really feel a reason to speculate as to what might have happened if Obama praised a single aspect of China. The point I have been trying to make is that it is really indefensible to say that Michele Bachmann is stupid because she pointed out that China has economic growth but no food stamps.

wow i googled it and got 20,800,000 results your google skills are shit

Google

 

[b.c.]

Your conclusion that Michele Bachmann has a "total lack of knowledge" on China and its lack of static policies over the decades is baseless.

Well, if the gist of Bachmann's comments is to suggest China is somehow better than the U.S. because China doesn't provide for the welfare of its citizens, then not only is the statement inaccurate, but it indicates, imo, a certain lack of moral character and social responsibility. China did at various times in its history provide for its citizen's healthcare and provided other forms of assistance as well. Since undoing those programs the divide between those who have and have not has since dramatically increased.

No problem for Bachmann, no doubt. What did she say? The programs established under the umbrella of Johnson's Great Society "will be gone" under her administration. Really!

Lets look at those programs created under and related to (directly or indirectly) that mandate:

Civil Rights Act of 64
Voting Rights Act of 65
Immigration and Nationality Service Act of 65
Civil Rights Act of 68
Economic Opportunity Act and Office of Economic Opportunity
War on Poverty (Job Corps, Peace Corps)
Food Stamp Act of 64
Project Head Start
Increased benefits to Social Security in 65
BESE and Higher Education Acts (65)
Medicare and Medicaid (Social Security Act 65)
National Endowments for Arts, Humanities, and Public Broadcasting Acts (you know - all that liberal media stuff the GOP has been fighting to sabotage for the last decade or more)
and numerous environmental and consumer protection initiatives that seem to really get the GOP's "goat".

I strongly suspect that persons on this site say Michele Bachmann want us to be more like China in the nasty ways simply because she is a conservative Republican. It is by no means clear that her political ideologies would necessitate the conversion of the US into a tyrannical state.

The point I have been trying to make is that it is really indefensible to say that Michele Bachmann is stupid because she pointed out that China has economic growth but no food stamps.

Did I say she was "stupid"? No. Batshit crazy? Yes. The good news: she's got plenty of company.