Republican spending plan signals a new culture war

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  1. B_talltpaguy

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    Give Republicans an ounce of power, and they're immediately back to their usual corrupt bullshit.




    Republican spending plan signals a new culture war


    Washingtonpost.com Opinions
    By Dana Milbank
    Friday, January 21, 2011; 8:00 PM



    Dana Milbank - Republican spending plan signals a new culture war
     
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    I am shocked and astounded by the blind hypocrisy of that man and the party he represents. To preach about the 'sanctity of human life' while at the same time working to prevent affordable health-care for maintaining, improving and preserving that very same human life. Head in my hands...
     
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    One word: Surprised!

    Another word: Not!
     
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    And why not? The populace is about as stupid as stupid gets. Medicare Part B...a huge expansion of government while at the same time preaching smaller government. Impossible? Not at all. 2+2=5.

    Corporate contributions have surged for new Republican leaders in House

    The new Republican leaders in the House have received millions of dollars in contributions from banks, health insurers and other major business interests, which are pressing for broad reversals of Democratic policies that affect corporations, according to disclosure records and interviews.
     
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    Another glaring hypocrisy is found in the targeting of their governance...

    While Republicans piss and moan whenever Dems are in power about the grandness of "personal responsibility" and "paying one's own way", and all of that BS... as soon as Reps have even a shred of control, they wield the power of their office against 'blue state' voters like a weapon, slashing federal expenditures and boosting fees in blue states that already pay more than they get back in taxes, while further boosting federal subsidies to the red 'donor' states that get back much more than they pay in. This is the same shit they pulled under Bush II, and it's the same crap they tried their hardest to pull under Clinton. This all hearkens back to Gingrich's criminally corrupt 'contract with America', which was nothing more than a cynical ploy to funnel pork to districts that voted Republican, while doing everything under the sun to put the screws to Democratic areas. The idea was that over time, purposefully fucking over certain areas, while perpetually subsidizing others would re-engineer these areas, with blue areas becoming poorer and red areas rapidly becoming wealthier.
     
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    * Highlighted in case anyone is still in doubt as to whom these people work for.

    I seriously don't know what the big fuckin deal is about balancing the budget. For starters, just do away with taxes on corporations and the wealthy entirely so they can "create more jobs". Then cut off all the welfare queens and use the savings to build more nukes to stop the commie threat. Repeal the Healthcare bill, privatize Social Security and do away with Medicare entirely. If old people, the sick, and the disabled are left without medical treatment they'll die quicker and stop being a drain on the budget, and if they're living on the street, they'll die even quicker and stop being a drain on the rest of us. Simples, and everybody benefits.

    In fact, we should just completely cut out the middle man and privatize everything, so instead of wasting money on government programs and bureaucracy, all that money can go directly into the Wall Street Casino where it's really needed to support the financial industry and feed all the parasites, who although they produce nothing of value and only feed off their "investments" in the magic money show, are the vital engine of economy. The other vital engine of the economy is the American consumer, so we need to make sure they have just enough magic money to buy all the worthless crap they're told they need in order to keep profits booming and corporations expanding. We need to make sure they continue to have plenty of confusing illusions of choice in the marketplace too, to keep them perpetually stimulated to buy more shit, like 87 kinds of identical laundry detergent in brightly contrasting packages and laced with an array of chemically created nature scents.

    Let's privatize the military too while we're at it, and just put the whole "government" under direct corporate oversight and control, something like the efficient and highly profitable oil industry, for example. Oh wait . . . .


    p.s. On the bright side, at least Dana's staying true to his pledge so far and not talking about Sister Sarah the Moosekiller.
     
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    Abortion? Really??
    Boehner really has no damn clue, does he?
     
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    This is Par for the course for the the GOP of today.
    Once the great party of LINCOLN with amazing thinkers has now been hijacked by the Gun toting Religious zealot terroristic extremists of today. The party became incredibly stupid in 2000 with the illegal election of the most moronic president in the history of our country AGAINST the will of the VOICE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!
    The stupidity within the party is now at a deafening level.
    WE CONSTANTLY IGNORE all the bullshit the right provokes and spews all in an attempt at civility.... CIVILITY IS AT AN END when our Democracy becomes at stake .

    In a cruelly ironic way this is good cause even though it may be tough times ahead for our nation it will be the complete decimation of the Repugnican party come 2012 !
    This just may be the harsh wake up call the American public needs to see the truth about the GOP of today, who gives a fuck about NOTHING AT ALL but GUNS...GOD....& GREED ! GOD being a farrrrrrrrrrrrrr distant 3rd of course !
    I knew there would be buyers remorse by the act of stupidity seen nationally by the midterm election results but had no idea it would be so quick !
    This is what happens when you elect such incompetent buffoons to Congress !


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    I hear ya... I grew up loving the party that freed the slaves, busted the trusts, and created the national park system... But I will never vote Republican again under any circumstance. Considering I used to actually help campaign for Republicans, I think that's saying something.


    ps... They only say they care about guns and God because they are paid to do so. All they care about is greed.
     
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    In case you didn't notice, Wall St no longer has any need for you to actually buy anything, for them to make money off of you. Now that they can securitize debt at will, traders can manipulate your net worth, even without your knowledge or participation in the process. Just like how Wall St profited by short selling our home mortgages without our knowledge. In trading, there can be no profits, without losses. Something tells me that nobody would have bothered paying their mortgage anymore if they understood what was happening behind the scenes.
     
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    Same here! Reagan cured me of that.
     
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    I was too young to be cured then... By 1998 I was basically a RINO (voted while ignoring party ID, didn't vote in 2000), and after 2002 I dropped my party affiliation... After 2004, I vowed to never vote for the Republicans ever again unless every single person who was a part of the party's leadership that year was gone and out of politics.
     
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    I always like to have the viable options, regardless of political affiliation. Even though my stances on most civil rights issue are to the left, I've voted Republican in the past and it wouldn't be impossible for me to do it again if the right candidate emerged. If another William Weld or Gerald Ford-like candidate came about and took the national stage I would be tempted to vote Republican.

    Alas, the GOP hasn't delivered a decent candidate in the last two decades so it makes my decision making pretty damn easy.
     
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    Definitely the high moral ground to stop poor often uneducated women from being able to have an abortion.

    Next story: high ranking republican's daughter in private abortion clinic.
     
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    Oh so true! It's always "pro life" for some of the blind ideologues... that is, until their daughters get pregnant by the one guy their parents can't stand. What's even crazier is that most of the people who campaign against abortion are men. Considering that they don't have to carry the fetus for 9 months and deal with all of the physical issues that come with it, I find that even more hypocritical than anything else.
     
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    Personally, I don't have a problem with "a ban on taxpayer funding of abortions across all federal programs." If that were the entire agenda.

    The problem is, you feel this is just a stepping stone to the real agenda, which is the complete legislative outlawing of all abortions, even in cases of rape, regardless of health of the mother, even outlawing abortions during the first trimester.

    In some ways, opposition to abortion and gay marriage (the cultural issues) is big money -- and so the activism never stops. We live in perpetual activism. Maggie Gallagher has an entire little "non-profit" moneymaking operation over at the National Organization for Marriage, so the activism will continue on and on (even after an eventual ruling by the SCOTUS).

    Once you concede a certain amount of ground to the pro-lifers, they'll take it and just move onto the next level of restriction. These cultural issues are eternal. Gay sex (in general) and reproductive rights have been argued and legislated for thousands of years. And they will be argued and legislated long after we're all dead & gone.
     
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    Umm....."now" ???!!!! the securitization debt has been going on for decades. No, make that centuries.... at least as far back as the 17th century. For one.... you ever hear of a bond?

    "Traders can manipulate your net worth".... and?! So? Last I checked those "traders"... and here's a clue, it's the portfolio managers, not the traders, the traders just execute the buys/sells, but whatever... those "traders" have made $1 invested in 1950 worth around $45-50 in today's money. That $1 under your mattress 60 yrs later...still a $1. That dollar w/ the Federal Government.... pending the program... perhaps $.10.

    In trading, there can be no profits, without losses. In trading, there can be no profits, without losses.

    Not even going to bother.... Going to get personal here, but not sure if you are more politically and economically naive, or just clueless and angry...on the seminal and tired anti-corporate anti-GOP rant...
     
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    It definitely smells like bullshit in this thread all of the sudden... Big time.

    Everyone, checks your shoes. I think someone may have tracked in a drunk teabagger.
     
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    Total BS. We all know outlawing abortion is not going to happen. There is no slippery slope here. It's bad enough cities like Berkeley want taxpayers to fund sex change operations... but abortions.... no way. It's not like a disease or genetic disposition to ______. You f'd up (literally and figuratively), you pay for it. And if need be for the gov't to pick up the tab, fucking garnish your wages. A gov't assisted program if/when you can't locate the perpetrator on rape cases is fine. Otherwise, tough fucking shit.
     
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    Sorry I made you look stupid, but your post was pretty pathetic and "newbie economics"...or lack thereof.
     
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