Republicans Defeat Republican Measure on Debt Ceiling

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And we'd get the same old crap again. As long as you have stupid, ignorant, selfish voters you will get stupid, ignorant selfish politicians.

We need voting exams. You should have to pass a test to be able to vote. You have to pass one to drive and voting is far more important than driving.

It will never happen. The Supreme Court would rule it was discriminatory.
 
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It will never happen. The Supreme Court would rule it was discriminatory.

Amend the Constitution. The stupid need to be discriminated against. For the good of humanity and the planet, stupidity we can no longer afford. They are descrinminated against in every other realm of life.
 
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And the notion that it makes sense to raise a debt ceiling without making significant budget cuts. The possibility of raising the debt ceiling without curbing spending is bone-chilling. Where will it lead? An unlimited threshold for incurring debt with no effort to get the budget within our means, that's where. I've never tried that with my checkbook, but I can't picture it working out well.

The debt has already been raised. That happened when the budget was passed. The debt limit vote is just political theater added a few decades ago. There is absolutely positively ZERO chance that the debt won't be raised by the deadline, as the consequences would cost the people who support the parties way too much money.

They're just using this to push through cuts, and that's all they're talking about...look at you. Nobody's talking about raising revenues, even though we're at a historical low.

One thing that WAS taught in high school when I was there was that when you're indebted, the logical course of action is to pay as much off as quickly as possible while spending as little as possible in order to avoid adding to the principal. That was in accounting, economics, and home ec. I guess not many of our political leaders went to my high school.

Did you go to college? In macro economics you learn that government spending is nothing like personal or business spending. Paying down our debt during an economic downturn is quite silly and pointless.

As to the original question, are theatrics like this a waste of time? Yes. But even if it was only a staged bluff done only to prove a point that was self-evident anyway, at least something got done in the Senate. Can't say that every week.

What point was being proven?

And as long as we're making a list of buzzwords that have been corrupted and abused so much that everyone has forgotten what they mean and whether or not they're even true in context, don't forget "ignorant." These days you could have a Ph.D. on the topic at hand and still be declared Ignorant if your opinion didn't match the left's agenda.

Who's stretching the definition? If you think government finance is similar to balancing your checkbook, you're probably not qualified to be commenting.
 

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Gov't's should be spending like hell during economic downturns.

The problems is we spent like hell when it was good and now do not have the money to spend at the right time. WHo talked about stupid voters and politicians??? They were right.

And no uneducated moron's vote should be weighed the same someone who has spent time learning about our country, the world and how to survive in it. I'm all for limited democracy.

I think we are seeing the end of democracy as we have known it - thank goodness.
 

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Gov't's should be spending like hell during economic downturns.

The problems is we spent like hell when it was good and now do not have the money to spend at the right time. WHo talked about stupid voters and politicians??? They were right.

And no uneducated moron's vote should be weighed the same someone who has spent time learning about our country, the world and how to survive in it. I'm all for limited democracy.

I think we are seeing the end of democracy as we have known it - thank goodness.

You already have limited democracy. Your vote doesn't count nearly as much as those financing the politicians.

You want to limit it further? You really think that would make things better? You better hope you're really rich.
 

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people feel entitled to money from the government.
well who else does it belong to?

I think we are seeing the end of democracy as we have known it - thank goodness.
You mean the US is ripe for a revolution? I dont think the UK really acts as a democracy and nor does the US. The framework gives theoretical power to voters but unless they bother to use it, it is meaningless. Using that power does not mean picking one out of a choice of two where those two never ever change.Both countries are ruled by oligarchies. Like, Bush the first, Bush the second, Kennedy the first.....Kennedy the cant quite get their act together but dont lack for candidates....
 

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You already have limited democracy. Your vote doesn't count nearly as much as those financing the politicians.

You want to limit it further? You really think that would make things better? You better hope you're really rich.



True.


That damned Soros has more voting power in the US than I ever will...