Republicans do the darndest things.....

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House Republicans Vote Against School Safety Legislation

"When 30 Senate Republicans voted to protect corporate-sponsored rape, it seemed that we had finally reached the nadir of the Party of No. But yesterday, House Republicans gave their senate cohorts a run for their scum-sucking money when they refused to support H.R. 4247, the Preventing Harmful Restraint and Seclusion in Schools Act.
The bill passed, but 153 House Republicans, so intent on saying no to any legislation introduced by a Democrat, couldn't bring themselves to agree that children in school shouldn't be tied up, drugged, or isolated in order to discipline them."


Daily Kos: House Republicans Support Restraint and Seclusion For Children


"You'd expect something like this to breeze through the House, but you'd be wrong. In the age of the Tea Party, even the most uncontroversial of legislative proposals are attacked by many Republicans in order to shore up their anti-statist bona fides. The majority of the Republican caucus voted against H.R. 4247 on the premise that issues of school safety is best left alone for the states to decide."


House Republicans Vote Against School Safety Legislation | Media Matters Action Network

 

[midlifebear]

I remember an era when Republicans and Democrats would have called out those voting "no" on this kind of issue, pressuring them for an apology to the citizens of the USA. It's quite obvious the GOP is a "do nothing" pack of scoundrels just as they were during the last four years of Bush the Younger's renewed interest in drinking.

 

[B_starinvestor]

House Republicans Vote Against School Safety Legislation

"When 30 Senate Republicans voted to protect corporate-sponsored rape, it seemed that we had finally reached the nadir of the Party of No. But yesterday, House Republicans gave their senate cohorts a run for their scum-sucking money when they refused to support H.R. 4247, the Preventing Harmful Restraint and Seclusion in Schools Act.
The bill passed, but 153 House Republicans, so intent on saying no to any legislation introduced by a Democrat, couldn't bring themselves to agree that children in school shouldn't be tied up, drugged, or isolated in order to discipline them."


Daily Kos: House Republicans Support Restraint and Seclusion For Children


"You'd expect something like this to breeze through the House, but you'd be wrong. In the age of the Tea Party, even the most uncontroversial of legislative proposals are attacked by many Republicans in order to shore up their anti-statist bona fides. The majority of the Republican caucus voted against H.R. 4247 on the premise that issues of school safety is best left alone for the states to decide."


House Republicans Vote Against School Safety Legislation | Media Matters Action Network

How do you explain to the parents of a child that has been attacked or killed by a child that goes wild?

"Sorry, we aren't allowed to restrain any children."

Say goodbye to more good teachers and administrators.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

^Dude, if you're scared, then call your mother or something... stop trolling the forum with this mindless paranoia.

The House approved a bill Wednesday to limit the physical restraint and seclusion of students in schools, a response to an investigation last year that found numerous reports of students abused or killed through such disciplinary measures.

The bill, approved 262 to 153 with support from Democrats and two dozen Republicans, would establish safety standards in schools and prohibit physical restraint and seclusion of students except to stop imminent danger of injury.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/03/AR2010030303286.html

Daily Kos: House Republicans Support Restraint and Seclusion For Children

You should use an unbiased source to report on events like Congressional votes. Partisan commentary such as this from DKos should follow, in the body of the thread.

 

[B_Nick4444]

why would we need a federal law for that?

 

[B_talltpaguy]

^Why wouldn't we?

Why would we as a society want some of our nation's children not to be abused at school, but would be ok if it happened to others?

 

[B_Nick4444]

as a matter of federal law!?!

why not as a society?

possibly because we are becoming less of society, and more of an unconnected assemblage with no shared values and standards?

 

[MusclePrinceXXX]

I remember an era when Republicans and Democrats would have called out those voting "no" on this kind of issue, pressuring them for an apology to the citizens of the USA. It's quite obvious the GOP is a "do nothing" pack of scoundrels just as they were during the last four years of Bush the Younger's renewed interest in drinking.

I agree. Republicans have proven over and over that they have no genuine interest in the American people whatsoever. Most of them don't give a shit about anything that is in the best interests of this country. The only things that the Republicans on Capitol Hill ever care about are protecting banks, large corporations, and the filthy rich trash.

I will never vote for a Republican as long as I live—and if I can't vote for a Democrat, I'll vote for a Socialist. While there are some Democrats who are corrupt, I will always side with the Democratic Party because it is this party who gives a shit about the American people.

 

[B_spiker067]

^Why wouldn't we?

Why would we as a society want some of our nation's children not to be abused at school, but would be ok if it happened to others?

Because it is a redundant law which brings the Federal govt. into an issue that ostensibly is already being dealt with at state and municipal levels. I see no case that there is some great national problem with this issue that would necessitate Federal intervention. It is an obtuse idea and possibly another unfunded mandate.

I wonder what the law actually said and what may have been bundled with it?

 

[B_starinvestor]

as a matter of federal law!?!

why not as a society?

possibly because we are becoming less of society, and more of an unconnected assemblage with no shared values and standards?

And I'm certain these kids that are being restrained....are fine young pupils.

But these discipline guidelines need to be set at the local level. A bunch of fat lawyers sitting around in D.C. can't regulate everything that happens everywhere, much as they may try.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

^Try educating yourself before judging... This is directed at disabled kids, not bullies... Again, your ignorance just shines right on through... It's really getting funny to watch you put your head up your ass by not knowing what you are talking about in thread after thread after thread.

possibly because we are becoming less of society, and more of an unconnected assemblage with no shared values and standards?[/B]

Dude, you might want to up the dose, the delusions are back.

 

[B_Nick4444]

Dude, you might want to up the dose, the delusions are back.

interesting insight into, and frank admission of the lib perspective

 

[B_talltpaguy]

^'Lib' perspective? Who said I'm a lib? The party ID on my voter registration card says NPA, and before that it said REP.

If having an aversion to ignorance and ideological certitude makes me a liberal, then so be it.

Because it is a redundant law which brings the Federal govt. into an issue that ostensibly is already being dealt with at state and municipal levels. I see no case that there is some great national problem with this issue that would necessitate Federal intervention. It is an obtuse idea and possibly another unfunded mandate.

I wonder what the law actually said and what may have been bundled with it?

If you're so curious, why not take a couple of minutes to read up on it? Why run your mouth, when you obviously don't know anything about the law, why it was written and what it is going to do?
http://edlabor.house.gov/blog/2009/12/preventing-harmful-restraint-a.shtml

 

[B_starinvestor]

^Try educating yourself before judging... This is directed at disabled kids, not bullies... Again, your ignorance just shines right on through... It's really getting funny to watch you put your head up your ass by not knowing what you are talking about in thread after thread after thread.

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Sections 1 and 2 of the bill:

National research shows students have been subjected to physical restraint and seclusion in schools as a means of discipline, to force compliance, or as a substitute for appropriate educational support.
(2) Behavioral interventions for children must promote the right of all children to be treated with dignity.


Anything else?

Fool.

 

[Ericsson1228d]

^Why wouldn't we?

Of course! The Dems want to regulate everything from the internet to the composition of compost!

If there isn't a bureaucracy to handle the issue, we will create one!

If there isn't a problem for the bureaucracy, we'll create one!

MOre government!!!

 

[B_talltpaguy]

Anything else?

Fool.

Keep reading jackass.
http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/legislation/HR4247Seclusion_Restraint.pdf

ps... I'm still waiting for for that arrival time and flight number.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

Of course! The Dems want to regulate everything from the internet to the composition of compost!

False. This law is co-sponsored by Republicans in both houses of Congress.

 

[B_starinvestor]

First this:

^Try educating yourself before judging... This is directed at disabled kids, not bullies... Again, your ignorance just shines right on through.

to which I cited sections 1 and 2 of the bill - indicating that the subject of the disciplinary measures were those students with behavioral issues.

You then linked the entire bill, and again, nowhere does it substantiate your false assertion that the bill is directed at kids with disabilities.

You lied, and in doing so, made a complete fool of yourself. Here is yet another definition from the very link you provided:


‘‘positive behavior supports’’ means a systematic approach to embed evidence-based practices and data driven decision-making to improve school climate and culture, including a range of systemic and individualized strategies to reinforce desired behaviors and diminish reoccurrence of problem behaviors, inorder to achieve improved academic and social outcomes and increase learning for all students, including those with the most complex and intensive behavioral needs.

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You just got owned.

Now, run along with your tail between your legs.

And stop trying to deflect from this reality by revisting your gracious offer to visit you in Tampa. While I would delight in such an endeavor - to which the only outcome would be an extended and painful stay in a medical facility for you, and likely countless hours in court for me.

No thanks.

If you want to pull yourself out of the poor house, it won't happen by virtue of suing me.

Go battle someone in your own league of mental inferiority, because you are boring the fuck out of me.

Little bitch.
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[deleted15807]

GOP Philosophy:

• How much can we steal?
  
• How fast can we steal it?
  
• Who can we blame it on?
  
• How long can we keep it up?
  
• Who can we trick into supporting us by whatever lies it takes?

 

[justasimpleguy]

That about sums it up. The Dems just get a little on the side generally. They need to lose what remains of their morals to run with the big dogs.