Republicans do the darndest things.....

[Qua]

GOP Philosophy:

• How much can we steal?
  
• How fast can we steal it?
  
• Who can we blame it on?
  
• How long can we keep it up?
  
• Who can we trick into supporting us by whatever lies it takes?

Ahh, that's the kind of non-sequitur partisan rabble sargon post i've been missing since the election of Obama. I haven't heard anything about the Ministry of Truth/Right wing noise machine in a coupla months now.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

^I'm sorry, you must have missed the embarrassing reality of the first post... Go try reading it again.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

to which I cited sections 1 and 2 of the bill - indicating that the subject of the disciplinary measures were those students with behavioral issues.

Ok dipshit, we'll go at this a different way, since you obviously don't understand that there are different types of kids who have vastly different kinds of 'behavioral issues' in school...

There are the kids who with normal intelligence and normal personality who get unruly... Typical bullies or kids who do dumb things like deal drugs at school... These are NOT the kids this bill is directed at. Those types of kids will still be dealing with the same end of the school disciplinary system that they deal with now (admins and the cops).

This law is directed at kids with development disabilities who get unruly because they intellectually or emotionally cannot handle the situation they are in, day in and day out, without having outbursts and episodes. They're inherently unstable, which is why we call them 'disabled' in the first place. I've done volunteer work with these kids (cuz my g/f and her mother both work with developmentally disabled kids), and I can promise you, unless you've been in one of those schools for a few days, you just have no idea what those students and teachers deal with on a daily basis. It's truly shocking. I've been bitten, scratched, kicked, and tackled... And that's by the kids who LOVE me when they are in a normal mood. (I bring my video games consoles in and let them try to play the easier games. They flock to me like I'm Moses. lol)...

This law is being passed to direct all schools to adopt policies that prevent those disabled kids from being too aggressively restrained or improperly disciplined. These kids are not very intelligent most times, and some of them have truly debilitating hormone problems that make it impossible for them to control themselves or think in any rational way... When they get into an episode, restraining them absolutely terrifies them, and they will literally flip out until they kill themselves, and isolating them can be emotionally traumatic for some of them.

There are already identical protections for disabled adults being cared for under Federally funded programs. This simply brings minors up to the same standards of protection as adults. There's nothing to debate here... Either you support protecting disabled kids from undue harm, or you don't.




ps... I'm STILL waiting for the flight number coward... You love to run your mouth and disrespect people (and threaten them) when you obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about. Why don't you come be a real man for once in your life and back it up? C'mon down to Tampa, and we'll get together and I'll give you a little lesson on what it means to be a grownup. It'll be like a little vacation to reality for you.

 

[slurper_la]

^ I think I'm in love :tongue:

 

[B_talltpaguy]

^The sad part is, nobody would have to argue about most of the political issues we face, if people just had enough intellectual curiosity and respect for themselves to actually learn about an issue before judging it.

 

[maxcok]

GOP Philosophy:

• How much can we steal?
  
• How fast can we steal it?
  
• Who can we blame it on?
  
• How long can we keep it up?
  
• Who can we trick into supporting us by whatever lies it takes?

More GOP philosophy . . . .

I'm all for equality, as long as it applies to 'real Americans', people who think act and look like me.

I'm all for government 'handouts' and tax shelters as long as they benefit my bottom line.

Why should my taxes pay for roads I don't drive on, or public education? My kids go to private school.

Why should my taxes pay to ensure the safety of food I don't eat or pharmaceuticals I don't take?

I got mine, fuck everybody else. Every man for himself, I say.

 

[deleted15807]

More GOP philosophy . . . .

I'm all for equality, as long as it applies to 'real Americans', people who think act and look like me.

I'm all for government 'handouts' and tax shelters as long as they benefit my bottom line.

Why should my taxes pay for roads I don't drive on, or public education? My kids go to private school.

Why should my taxes pay to ensure the safety of food I don't eat or pharmaceuticals I don't take?

I got mine, fuck everybody else. Every man for himself, I say.

Ahhh yes the 'Real Americans', the kind that can pass the Republican Purity Test.

Sometimes it's so fucking obvious it makes you nausaus? Who votes for these people? We have Senator Kyl of Arizona (Republican of course) basically saying he will block all further unemployment benefit bills unless we have some 'progress' on the estate tax. So yes the unemployed must eat cake until the rich get their tax break.

Sticking It to the Unemployed

 

[B_talltpaguy]

We have Senator Kyl of Arizona (Republican of course) basically saying he will block all further unemployment benefit bills unless we have some 'progress' on the estate tax. So yes the unemployed must eat cake until the rich get their tax break.

I agree with him... We need to reform the estate tax back to the way it used to be, when anything over a certain amount was taxed at like 90%... The nation can no longer afford to keep our spoiled rich kids living in the luxury they have grown accustomed. It's time for even the rich to get a job.

 

[deleted15807]

The reform he speaks of is even more relief to the rich not less :frown1:

Senator Kyl’s proposal, offered as an amendment to the Senate budget resolution, would increase the estate tax exemption to $10 million per couple and lower the top estate tax rate to 35 percent, with a lower rate applied to part of the value of an estate. ​

 

[B_talltpaguy]

I know. I was being snarky.

 

[SilverTrain]

I agree with him... We need to reform the estate tax back to the way it used to be, when anything over a certain amount was taxed at like 90%... The nation can no longer afford to keep our spoiled rich kids living in the luxury they have grown accustomed. It's time for even the rich to get a job.

In the interests of posting for all to see that not all "liberals"/Democrats/"progressives"/non-Republicans walk in lock-step, I think a 90% estate tax is way too high. I think a 0% estate tax (one of those Republican "safe talking points" the realities of which most Republicans have no real clue) is imprudent as well.

I'd think somewhere nearer 25-ish to 35-ish percent is more realistic.

 

[deleted15807]

I know. I was being snarky.

:beerchug2:

 

[B_talltpaguy]

I'd think somewhere nearer 25-ish to 35-ish percent is more realistic.

Ok, in all seriousness, I think it should be progressive, and have something like 3-5 brackets...

Maybe something like this...

under $500k- 0%
$500k-$5m - 20%
$5m-$50m - 40%
$50m+ - 60%

... but don't hold any strong sentiment on the issue other than I think that 8-9+ figure inheritances should be taxed at a very high rate... Personally, I don't even believe in inheritances, and tell my parents that every chance I get (I'm an only child and I tell them to enjoy their money and leave nothing)