Repubs write off 2012

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If my memory is correct the NY Times report cited the advantage of being the incumbent as making it difficult to "lose" the election as one of the primary reasons the pooh-bahs made their decision(s).
I don't like his politics but I do respect him when it comes to being able to read the tea leaves.
 

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Then do us all a favor and stay home in 2012. Seriously, I'm so sick of your bitching.

Don't worry, I'm sure any day now voting for centrists and conservatives will magically pay off.


I'm not going to bother responding to the rest because all your replies always come back twice as long and twice as full of personal attacks and self-righteousness. I just don't have the energy, I'd rather debate idiot conservatives who max out at 4 quote splices a post.
 

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Don't worry, I'm sure any day now voting for centrists and conservatives will magically pay off.

Your sarcasm would have more effect if you weren't so politically bigoted. Now you're just coming off as a hater.

I'm not going to bother responding to the rest because all your replies always come back twice as long and twice as full of personal attacks and self-righteousness.

First off, you have implied in every single post that people who support Obama (such as myself) are unintelligent and don't know "what the fuck is going on". You've lost the battle on the personal attack issue a long time ago because you started it. As for my posts being twice as long, I don't apologize for taking the time to elaborate on my points to make sure anyone else reading can figure out what I'm talking about. You're doing nothing but demonstrating that you're too lazy to read.

As for the self-righteousness? That's just a sad joke to imply that I think I know it all. And I've stated several times (in various ways) that I don't. It's just too bad you've been talking to me for several pages and you haven't told me a single thing that I don't already know and/or changes my perspective. Like I said before, you lack that ability to change it.

I just don't have the energy, I'd rather debate idiot conservatives who max out at 4 quote splices a post.

Considering that you can't even "max out at four", you once again look and sound like a hypocrite. As if nobody has noticed that in this post and this post you went far beyond that number. Your need or desires to seek out an intellectually weaker person to talk to speaks volumes as well. But I won't go there. I think I've already proven my point regardless if you fail or refuse to accept it.

Toodles!! :rolleyes:
 

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Watch John Hunstman, former governor of Ewetaw and Obama appointed ambassador to China (he just stepped down from that position) and has submitted the paperwork to run for the GOP as president. Even the non mormons and Ewetaw's Democratic Party like this guy and were pissed to see him recruited as the ambassador to China. He's Teflon-esque as well as intelligent.
 

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Watch John Hunstman, former governor of Ewetaw and Obama appointed ambassador to China (he just stepped down from that position) and has submitted the paperwork to run for the GOP as president. Even the non mormons and Ewetaw's Democratic Party like this guy and were pissed to see him recruited as the ambassador to China. He's Teflon-esque as well as intelligent.

Since you're smarter than me, I never know if you mean to misspell something akin to your famous 'Ewetaw'. I think you meant to type Jon Huntsman. I agree with you, though: Huntsman is probably one of the few Republicans left in the field who could pull it off. He is all business and more importantly -- brings the credentials of not only speaking Mandarin, but having personal contacts that include notable members of the Chinese political and business communities. America's biggest foreign policy challenge post-Arab awakening and post-bin Laden is going to be how we develop our relationship with China.

The American business community is going to latch onto Huntsman and support him strongly. The strategy of naming him Ambassador to China was sound, but -- in the end -- may have only strengthened his already pretty respectable credentials.

Also, unlike the majority of the potential GOP contenders for the nomination, he hasn't stuck his foot in his mouth yet. His biggest hurdle may be convincing America he doesn't get his marching orders from Temple Square in Salt Lake City. I've seen people draw comparisons of Mitt Romney's and now, Jon Huntsman's, Mormonism with JFK's Catholicism. Apart from the fact that the Vatican didn't sit in an American state, I think it became a non-issue because few of us know truly 'devout' Catholics. However, every Mormon I know is pretty religious. They may not all wear the magic underwear, but they adhere to the faith, keep a family night, attend stake meetings and send their kids off on missions. We'll see.