Depending on who the "invaders" were (sorry racist republicans, Mexican workers don't count), I'd take up arms too. It's what real men, like the defenders of Iraq, or Vietnam, do when their country is invaded.
Dishonor? I'm not the one that sent them into countless racist wars. It isn't my fault they got limbs blown off. Go talk to Halliburton and BP and Exxon and all the bankers and Bechtel about that. Go get on W and Cheney's case for lying about that. Like my little words are worse than having your face turned to a bowl of melted plastic for a bunch of fucking lies. The truth is somehow "dishonor", whilst sending young men to go die in wars based on lies propaganda and profit is honorable. Give me a fucking break.
And what about the millions of those who have been "dishonored" by American bombs, missiles and bullets as they tried to defend their homelands? Where is the great American outpouring of respect for those brave warriors that fought our imperialistic aggression? what about all those defending Iraq from America and Britain (again) being called terrorists and thugs, when in actuality they were heros? Where is their much needed honor?
what's so honorable about invading country after country without even knowing anything about them and attempting to set up one crooked puppet regime after another? where is the honor in that? What is honorable about colonialism and neo-colonialism?
Soldiers of evil are not honorable. Fuck all the confederate soldiers, every last one of them. We should dig their graves up and piss in their skulls. Fuck all the Nazi soldiers, and every single Nazi sympathizer. We should dig their graves up and shit in their eye sockets. How is it honorable to fight for evil and greed?
Likewise. The difference is, your viewpoint is encouraged by the Imperialist and corporatist masters of the United States, whilst my viewpoint is given a chill factored and cowed into fear by the war on terror and the constant, publicized erosion of our civil rights, the publicized use of torture by the U.S. government, which advertises that one day, they will use wiretaps and internet message boards against you and throw you away. So your viewpoint is much louder and seems much more popular than it really is. The US government has proven itself to be out of control, but I'm not afraid of them anymore. I am saying what scores of millions of Americans feel and have felt since this disgusting war was foisted on us.
You didn't even read a word I wrote. You just want to express your hatred of Cheney, Bush, Shell Oil, etc., etc. I understand what you're trying to say and I understand your disgust for them.
Unfortunately, in your rush to climb to the top of the mountain to proclaim your self-important opinions about the causes of war, you miss the point that war affects us all. You'd prefer to blame a military member for the fact that he or she finds themselves in the middle of a war because, to you, that makes sense. And the fact that they died, according to your logic, is somehow a deserved end. Wow. That's really brilliant.
The point I was trying to make and I'll make again is this:
Dislike the war all you want, but have some respect and empathy for the people who were killed or disabled and their loved ones. Iraqi or American or French or Afghan, the loss of life is a shame.
Even if you 'didn't send them to war' and 'it's not [your] fault their limbs got blown off', you are defeated by your own twisted logic. Did you, by chance, purchase gasoline in the past month? How about use a Zip-loc bag? Maybe you ate at a fast-food outlet? Did you use money to pay for anything in the last six days? See, if I wanted to carry your argument out to its logical end, I could blame
your consumerism for the war. Without it, we wouldn't have oil-hungry politicians starting wars to make sure
your consumerism could continue unfettered. Now, I'm sure you'd agree that's just stupid thinking and I'd agree with you there. But it makes just about as much sense as you blaming the soldier.
If you don't agree with war, that's fine. But, don't insert your callous personal opinions and reasoning into a thread that is designed to offer some respect and appreciation to those who have lost their lives or have been disabled in this regrettable war.
